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Oh dear! Where will it stop Razz 

Glad he's not a property developer.
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Wake me up when this nightmare is over
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Not that I'm happy, but this was all in the planning application. Rather begs the question why that got nodded through when the land ownership wasn't all dealt with, though.
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PCC should remove 5 year the buy back clause from the lease for the extra land, which is due to kick in not long after the development is complete.
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It was the aspect that really got my goat all along. Brent got the HHP land at a (market value) snip and knew all along that he would have to encroach on the leased back ground land, that's the land that should have been used to build the best facilities possible for the football club and the rest of the development should have been constrained to the HHP land that was sold to him.

We all know the arguments about the necessity to maximize the return from the development so the club could get it's "free" stand, but it's not one I buy as the only solution that was possible.
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It was the aspect that really got my goat all along. Brent got the HHP land at a (market value) snip and knew all along that he would have to encroach on the leased back ground land, that's the land that should have been used to build the best facilities possible for the football club and the rest of the development should have been constrained to the HHP land that was sold to him.

We all know the arguments about the necessity to maximize the return from the development so the club could get it's "free" stand, but it's not one I buy as the only solution that was possible.

Brent is a Snake pure and simple, we have been well and truly mugged and this is living proof.
We told you so.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent wants even more land at HHP!!   Brent wants even more land at HHP!! EmptyFri Aug 23, 2013 3:59 pm

Graham's posted the report the Cabinet Committee will be discussing here

Basically, Akkeron own the freehold on 2.27 acres and if this goes through they'll get another 1.22 acres.

I think that 1.22 acres was once described as 'a few yards'.
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Am I simplifying this too much? - if the powers that be don't give him what he wants, it will jeopardize the whole chabanc?
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PostSubject: Re: Brent wants even more land at HHP!!   Brent wants even more land at HHP!! EmptyFri Aug 23, 2013 4:29 pm

So basically Akkeron are getting an 68% increase in the amount of land they own (3.49 acres vs 2.27)

Got love IJN's comment. "Not a land grab, just a transfer from leashold to freehold" He either doesn't know what the difference between leasehold and freehold is, or he's a patsy for Brent/Akkeron.
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Am I simplifying this too much? - if the powers that be don't give him what he wants, it will jeopardize the whole chabanc?

That has been his method since day 1
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Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
So basically Akkeron are getting an 68% increase in the amount of land they own (3.49 acres vs 2.27)

Got love IJN's comment. "Not a land grab, just a transfer from leashold to freehold" He either doesn't know what the difference between leasehold and freehold is, or he's a patsy for Brent/Akkeron.


How about both !!!


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Bandwagon wrote:
Am I simplifying this too much? - if the powers that be don't give him what he wants, it will jeopardize the whole chabanc?
That has been his method since day 1
Always keep that in the back of my mind Punchy - this just seems over and above the remit!! Will his lip quiver or the councils knees knock?
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Bandwagon wrote:
Am I simplifying this too much? - if the powers that be don't give him what he wants, it will jeopardize the whole chabanc?
I suppose that's hypothetically true, but if you're pinning your hopes on the Reluctant Bidder's patsy council saying "no" to him then I fear you'll be hugely disappointed.


Cabinet member for Finance, Councillor Mark Lowy said: “...if we don’t do it, Argyle won’t get the stadium it needs, the developer wouldn’t be able to build the retail and commercial units it needs to make the scheme viable, ...as well as the ice rink that needs to be re-provided from the Pavilions."


Wasn't the same "suck it up or I feck the club over" threat used to browbeat one of the staff into reluctantly agreeing to a deal over his unpaid wages that he wasn't happy with? I can't recall the particular employee's name.

For someone with all this "honesty" and " integrity" he sure has a nice line in ruthless strong-arm tactics. (I shall resist the temptation to use the obvious word for his behaviour on the grounds that he's not slow to run to his lawyers).
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Charlie Wood wrote:
It was the aspect that really got my goat all along. Brent got the HHP land at a (market value) snip and knew all along that he would have to encroach on the leased back ground land, that's the land that should have been used to build the best facilities possible for the football club and the rest of the development should have been constrained to the HHP land that was sold to him.

We all know the arguments about the necessity to maximize the return from the development so the club could get it's "free" stand, but it's not one I buy as the only solution that was possible.
But as he said when he finally surfaced after scheming to get hold of the club and land for months first arrived on the scene, he probably won't make any profit on the deal. He's only doing what was necessary to save your club.

BWAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Blimey, the natives are getting restless on Pisspoti - the big cheese is having to don a firemans helmet, popcorn tonight!!
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"Blackmail" might be too strong a word.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent wants even more land at HHP!!   Brent wants even more land at HHP!! EmptyFri Aug 23, 2013 5:49 pm

jabba the gut ecfc wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:
Am I simplifying this too much? - if the powers that be don't give him what he wants, it will jeopardize the whole chabanc?
I suppose that's hypothetically true, but if you're pinning your hopes on the Reluctant Bidder's  patsy council saying "no" to him then I fear you'll be hugely disappointed.


Cabinet member for Finance, Councillor Mark Lowy said: “...if we don’t do it, Argyle won’t get the stadium it needs, the developer wouldn’t be able to build the retail and commercial units it needs to make the scheme viable, ...as well as the ice rink that needs to be re-provided from the Pavilions."


Wasn't the same "suck it up or I feck the club over" threat used to browbeat one of the staff into reluctantly agreeing to a deal over his unpaid wages that he wasn't happy with? I can't recall the particular employee's name.

For someone with all this "honesty" and " integrity" he sure has a nice line in ruthless strong-arm tactics. (I shall resist the temptation to use the obvious word for his behaviour on the grounds that he's not slow to run to his lawyers).
Tony Campbell I believe who was then made out to be the bad guy and became the subject of threats and abuse if I recall correctly. This bespectacled timid young non-property developing saviour certainly knows how to play hardball.
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This has been part of the plan agreed months if not years ago with the council, they just need to drip feed the shite to the proles carefully over a scheduled amount of time.
Message to Ian Newell; isn't it time to turn it in now mate? Flogging a dead horse is hard work and it makes you look like a tw@t.
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Ian's reading it over and over again. He's got his special ruler for reading out so he doesn't accidentally skip a sentence by accident.

"'Ere, it sez Akkeruns on it. Uncle James is called Mr Akkeruns in them posh meetings we goes to. I loves uncle James."

I think old Ian is waiting for his back up before making his mind up - where is X-Isle and PL2? Hurry up lads, Ian might side with the popular view that it isn't such a good deal for the club after all.

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Jabba, I doff my hat. Excellent post.
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Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
So basically Akkeron are getting an 68% increase in the amount of land they own (3.49 acres vs 2.27)

Got love IJN's comment. "Not a land grab, just a transfer from leashold to freehold" [b[He either doesn't know what the difference between leasehold and freehold is, or he's a patsy for Brent/Akkeron.[/b]
Don't judge the poor guy too harshly just yet. Let's see how he does in his GCSEs.

(In case of an attack of the mysterious PASOTI Disappearing Post virus see following screenshot of the Associated Examing Board 2013 GCSE examination papers in Land Tenure and Applied Logic, as supplied to the St Brent of Akkeron School. For those who don't know this fine educational institution, it is located miles and miles away from 'muff, adjacent to the home of His Excellency Sir James; Highest Incarnation of the Revolutionary Comradely Love; Guarantee of the Fatherland's Unification; Glorious General, Who Descended From Heaven; Great Man, Who Is a Man of Deeds; Bright Sun of the 21st Century; Ever-Victorious, Iron-Willed Commander; Eternal General Secretary of the Party and Sun Of Socialism Capitalism.

Kim Jong-Il should sue if you ask me - or maybe hack the Reluctant Bidder's facebook account and send the contents to the ATD moderators).


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Jabba - you'da man!! cheers 
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I'm sure our favourite champagne socialist won't go much for the idea of more of a publically owed asset being privatised and will be telling James as much
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What was wrong with Heaney again?

Oh, yeah, he wanted to ruin CP by doing loads of uncontrolled development-building a hotel, a multiplex and fast food outlets. He just HAD to be stopped come what may, good job Brent rolled up with a whole load of different ideas.

Personally, I think BIL stood for Brent's Incognito Landgrab
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