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Brent's goons will no doubt be unleashing the dogs of war shortly
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On the Herald website it seems to be about 70: 30 in support of FOCP. Most see the development as an opportunity for Brent and Brent alone.
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a feckin dentists surgery. god give me feckin strength.

You couldn't make it up!!!!!

Too depressed to write anymore!

Inded ATPM. I'm outta here for the foreseeable future, mainly to calm down before I get myself into trouble. Can someone give me a wake-up call when all of this shite is over and Brent and his ass-licking, car-park space wanting, wanna be director, sycophantic cabal have fecked off from our club.

See y'all next year.

PS, I'll stay logged-on for a while incase anyone wants to PM me and tell me to feck off then you mincy flouncing tw*t. afro



Calm down......you just need a more balanced outlook on life......nothing is all black or white, it's only a damn football club not life or death.
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On the Herald website it seems to be about 70: 30 in support of FOCP. Most see the development as an opportunity for Brent and Brent alone.

Would have been 80 20 had the herald not been caught removing comments against the developments.
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How bad is it when the local rag is so far up Brents ass that they have banned people from posting on their website to try and quell the restless natives?

All it takes is Postey or Newell to request it and you get the boot.
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How bad is it when the local rag is so far up Brents ass that they have banned people from posting on their website to try and quell the restless natives?

All it takes is Postey or Newell to request it and you get the boot.

democracy in action silence unbelievers by any means necessary!

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The opposition has started. Brent has had it his own way for too long during the "consultation period" drip feeding his little sound bytes, I honestly don't think a lot of people would have realised how big this development is, they are now waking up and Brent needs to be challenged through the local media on every piece of bullshit he has written. I have emailed FOCP asking them to keep me informed, you should all do the same, I have signed the petition that someone organised about the hotel, I will also leave comments on the Herald pages. Letters are being drafted to Akkeron and more importantly Argyle itself. We need to get under his skin, needle and goad the man, he is feeling the pressure, time to get focused, do what you can do, if we are to lose the battle lets at least go down fighting.
The timing of this has been deliberately chosen so that the planning happens in close season, direct action needs to commence on the first day of the season though, greeeennnnnn parrrkkkkkkk llaannnnnddddd, RRRROOOOAAARRRR!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: PAFC Planning Applications now online   PAFC Planning Applications now online - Page 6 EmptySat Jun 01, 2013 11:12 am

Campaigners oppose Home Park development plans

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Saturday, June 01, 2013

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By KEITH ROSSITER Political Reporter @krossiter



THE HUGE Home Park development will be equivalent to dumping the Marsh Mills Sainsbury's into the middle of Central Park – but seven times higher, a pressure group claims.

A £50 million plan to transform Higher Home Park into a major regional sporting and leisure destination has been submitted to city planners.






Friends of Central Park Janice Hunt, Mike Smith (with dog Kit) and Veronica Graham (with dog Roxy), who oppose plans for the area where they move onto the leasehold land. They are Pictured where a road and taxi ranks will be leading up to the planned hotel

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The scheme, outlined in The Herald earlier this year, will include a new grandstand at Plymouth Argyle's stadium, a new ice rink for the city, a ten-screen cinema and a hotel.

CLICK HERE TO SEE FULL PICTURES OF THE PLANS

Argyle boss James Brent's Akkeron Group is behind the proposal and has submitted its detailed plans after weeks of public consultation.

The development is opposed by the Argyle Fans' Trust, which wants to build further into Central Park to allow for a more ambitious grandstand expansion.

The Friends of Central Park also promised to contest the scheme. Told that the plans had been published yesterday, Janice Hunt, the group's acting chair, said: "The fight starts now."

"Why would the people of Plymouth want another cinema or hotel, shops or fast-food outlets in the middle of their major green space when the profits aren't even going to help Plymouth Argyle?" she said.

"Who gave Akkeron permission to do this to our park? There are covenants on Central Park to stop such developments. Council leader Tudor Evans has said he is fully backing these plans, but how can they even be considered without public consultation? We need transparency, openness and honesty."

She said the development includes a seven-storey hotel that will be as high as the Life Centre and "loom over some of the most natural areas of the park. It will extend deep into the park, gobbling up even more green space.

"A two-lane road will come into the park, around the stadium, to access the 400-space car park at the rear of the stadium. This will mean cars and service vehicles travelling into the heart of the park 24 hours a day.

"A taxi and minibus set-down point is positioned halfway up Zoo Field."

"Friends of Central Park fully supports the building of a new grandstand adequate for Argyle's aspirations. We support any development that will help Argyle, but within the existing footprint of Higher Home Park.

"Central Park is now only half the size it was when it was bought by the people of Plymouth for the people of Plymouth in 1931.

"Once green space is gone it is gone for ever."

A council spokeswoman said the planning case officer was not aware of any specific request from the friends.

Now that the application has been submitted, people can make comments as part of the planning process.

She said Cllr Evans has welcomed the scheme which would see the stadium finished and bring in £55million worth of investment.

"However, he is fully aware that the decision to grant approval to the scheme would rest with the planning committee."

Akkeron said the construction would create more than 600 workers' jobs during the two-year build and another 400 on the completed site.

Work could start this autumn if Akkeron wins planning permission from Plymouth City Council.

The scheme will see:

A replacement for the old Mayflower stand at Plymouth Argyle's Home Park stadium.

The new grandstand will hold hospitality and club retail facilities to generate new income for the team and put the club on a more sustainable financial footing, a spokesman said.

A competition-standard ice arena to replace the rink at The Pavilions. Mr Brent is also planning to redevelop the Pavilions, but must first build the new rink.

One of the largest cinemas in the South West with ten screens, including an IMAX.

Major improvements to Central and public amenities.

14 medium-sized shops or restaurants.

A health centre including a dental practice.

Mr Brent said: "We have been encouraged by the level of interest, support and constructive feedback received from local people about our proposals.

"The views and suggestions we have received from the community have influenced and shaped key aspects of our proposals including the grandstand, improvements to Central Park, and what the competition ice skaters in the city would like from their new arena. We have also designed with Plymouth City Council and local interest groups, including the Friends of Central Park, a significant package of enhancements for the park and public amenities."

Consultation on the proposal ends on July 2.

THE PROPOSALS

New linking footpaths, landscaping, seeding and tree planting in Zoo Field and creation of a Memorial Garden.

Re-grading and resurfacing of Cottage Field football pitch so that players have a flat even surface and improved pitch drainage.

New feature gateway at the entrance of the Mawsons Axis between the Life Centre and Higher Home Park to give a sense of arrival to the park.

Creation of a new community youth football changing room which has been identified as an objective in the Plymouth City Council Central Park Masterplan.

A financial contribution to Plymouth City Council for the resurfacing of Gilbert lane and creation of a new pathway leading into Family Tree Field, in line with the vision set out by the Council Central Park Masterplan.





Opinion appears fairly mixed looking at the comments today in the Herald, Brent is pulling the construction jobs, future of Plymouth etc arguments out of the hat. Yesterday it was "there is no plan B" and it will generate a million a year to get the club up the leagues.
The man is a bully, you don't build a business like he has without trampling over the opposition, this will be easy for Brent to get his Akkeron getto up and running. Sounds like he has councillor Evans in the palm of his hand already.
These plans HAVE to be challenged, for the good of the club, the enviroment and the city. affraid




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I like this comment

Quote from Herald

“I agree with the fotcp, the only place for a development like this is in the centre of town, Brent had said the only people to make money from this is the director of his company who happens to be his wife and himself.
He employed two people to round up the sheep of Argyle fans to follow him, they are a up start postman and a web site owner bully.
As an Argyle long-standing season ticket hold (I am sixty-five) if this is pass I will not step foot in Home Park again.
I have e-mail most of the Labour Councillors and have only one reply.
Come on the people of Plymouth and kick this development into the trees.”

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Tgwu wrote:
I like this comment

Quote from Herald

“I agree with the fotcp, the only place for a development like this is in the centre of town, Brent had said the only people to make money from this is the director of his company who happens to be his wife and himself.
He employed two people to round up the sheep of Argyle fans to follow him, they are a up start postman and a web site owner bully.
As an Argyle long-standing season ticket hold (I am sixty-five) if this is pass I will not step foot in Home Park again.
I have e-mail most of the Labour Councillors and have only one reply.
Come on the people of Plymouth and kick this development into the trees.”

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best description of the two yet.
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PostSubject: Re: PAFC Planning Applications now online   PAFC Planning Applications now online - Page 6 EmptySat Jun 01, 2013 12:49 pm

Angry wrote:
Tgwu wrote:
I like this comment

Quote from Herald

“I agree with the fotcp, the only place for a development like this is in the centre of town, Brent had said the only people to make money from this is the director of his company who happens to be his wife and himself.
He employed two people to round up the sheep of Argyle fans to follow him, they are a up start postman and a web site owner bully.
As an Argyle long-standing season ticket hold (I am sixty-five) if this is pass I will not step foot in Home Park again.
I have e-mail most of the Labour Councillors and have only one reply.
Come on the people of Plymouth and kick this development into the trees.”

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best description of the two yet.

Our friends reputation must be growing.
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PostSubject: Re: PAFC Planning Applications now online   PAFC Planning Applications now online - Page 6 EmptySat Jun 01, 2013 3:32 pm

The opposition to Brent Village is starting to gain momentum, Brents disgusting village and the hated ministand will never get built, a city greenfield park should remain just that, not a third rate retail park with a green lawn! time to go jimmy.
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PostSubject: Re: PAFC Planning Applications now online   PAFC Planning Applications now online - Page 6 EmptySat Jun 01, 2013 3:36 pm

built where its needed ie the city centre.
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PostSubject: Re: PAFC Planning Applications now online   PAFC Planning Applications now online - Page 6 EmptySat Jun 01, 2013 3:48 pm

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built where its needed ie the city centre.

Brent likes his hotels. As well as HHP and Pavillions with Premier Inn, he is in pole position to do a deal with PCC to take over the Civic Centre to turn it into Hilton Hotel.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

Unfortunatley, JB sees the longer gameplan that once the council have let him build all over leased land, he will excercise his option to buy the leased land back from the council for 12 times the rent ~ £1.25M and make the real killing.
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ZYPH wrote:
Person Of Interest wrote:
All the Presidents Men wrote:
Pokesdown wrote:
a feckin dentists surgery. god give me feckin strength.

You couldn't make it up!!!!!

Too depressed to write anymore!

Inded ATPM. I'm outta here for the foreseeable future, mainly to calm down before I get myself into trouble. Can someone give me a wake-up call when all of this shite is over and Brent and his ass-licking, car-park space wanting, wanna be director, sycophantic cabal have fecked off from our club.

See y'all next year.

PS, I'll stay logged-on for a while incase anyone wants to PM me and tell me to feck off then you mincy flouncing tw*t. afro



Calm down......you just need a more balanced outlook on life......nothing is all black or white, it's only a damn football club not life or death.

Ok, Ok, I've calmed down now. Apologies to all if I get somewhat irate - it's just this whole bullshit plan and the pathetic closed shop of the sycophants really grip me. Who the hell are they to tell me what my, our club needs when they where never going to listen to us anyway - so fecking frustrating.
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green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?
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He sold the land to him self cheap, the land in the city will make more money for him then a ice rink there
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Person Of Interest wrote:
green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?

And who the "representatives" were who thought they could speak for the whole fanbase during the year without canvassing for ideas?

Well we know exactly who but hey.
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Person Of Interest wrote:
green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?

The ice rink has to be near the Life Centre - that was a condition of the sale of the Pavilions to whichever of Brent's companies it was sold to.

The cinema, hotel, shops and road(s) are another story.
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Peggy * wrote:
Person Of Interest wrote:
green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?

The ice rink has to be near the Life Centre - that was a condition of the sale of the Pavilions to whichever of Brent's companies it was sold to.

The cinema, hotel, shops and road(s) are another story.

build the ice rink but the shops are not needed at all. it will ruin the peaceful nature of central park if it was ruined by shoppers.
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I think that PCC should reconsider all dealings with Brent, the guy has too many links with corrupt colleagues and friends.
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If anyone knows anything corrupt that can be fully substantiated then it needs to be managed carefully into the public arena.
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Peggy * wrote:
Person Of Interest wrote:
green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?

The ice rink has to be near the Life Centre - that was a condition of the sale of the Pavilions to whichever of Brent's companies it was sold to.

The cinema, hotel, shops and road(s) are another story.

Peggy.

The Pavillions deal just stated that another Ice Rink had to be built elsewhere in the city. It's proposal for HHP is a hangover from the AAP when the full Life Centre should have included an Ice Rink / Conference Centre building on Cottage Field
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green_genie wrote:
Peggy * wrote:
Person Of Interest wrote:
green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?

The ice rink has to be near the Life Centre - that was a condition of the sale of the Pavilions to whichever of Brent's companies it was sold to.

The cinema, hotel, shops and road(s) are another story.

Peggy.

The Pavillions deal just stated that another Ice Rink had to be built elsewhere in the city. It's proposal for HHP is a hangover from the AAP when the full Life Centre should have included an Ice Rink / Conference Centre building on Cottage Field

IMO its maybe unpopular the ice rink should go on cottage field. I think the WG plan was far more workable and satisfied everyone's concerns yet the sheer greed of the millionaire brent and his wife would rather feck the club over with a cheap stand that has more corporate functions over fan ones and build the whole world inside a carpark.
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green_genie wrote:
Peggy * wrote:
Person Of Interest wrote:
green_genie wrote:
Angry wrote:
built where its needed ie the city centre.

With his cosy relationship with Tudor you would have thought that they could have found a more suitable site for the Ice Rink and / or Cinema in the West End of City Centre which is crying out for an anchor attraction. Colin Campbell Court , or the empty Derrys or Woolworths buildings for example.

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Absolutely, gg. So can anyone tell me WHY the hotel, ice-rink and cinema HAS to be built at HP?

The ice rink has to be near the Life Centre - that was a condition of the sale of the Pavilions to whichever of Brent's companies it was sold to.

The cinema, hotel, shops and road(s) are another story.

Peggy.

The Pavillions deal just stated that another Ice Rink had to be built elsewhere in the city. It's proposal for HHP is a hangover from the AAP when the full Life Centre should have included an Ice Rink / Conference Centre building on Cottage Field

According to the City Council website, it has to be next to the Life Centre: here

And the BBC reported this as a condition of the sale: and here


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