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Look Newell, everyone knows you read this site avidly so why don't you answer this. "What exactly are the vile accusations you speak of"?

Are you denying that Pete Desborough threw a drink over Roger Willis and called him an educated wanker? And are you denying that your son was with him when he started again after the Exeter game? And that your son went off on one at Roger later that day and was threatening him because he thought I was with Roger?

Please answer those questions Ian.

And are you denying that you and Chris Webb accused Sean Rapson of being Greenman, who Postey has owned up to being?

Or that you had a Flickr account which contained amongst other things screenshots of an e-mail exchange with Rick Cowdrey where you warned him what might happen on Pasoti if he didn't stop the Q and A session between James Brent and ATD?

And also on your Flickr account a request by you to "hit" an e-mail address belonging to Rickler, and it was explained that the "hit" meant that once he signed out of his e-mail address he wouldn't be able to get back in?

Or that you had a screenshot of a letter sent by Rickler to the Trust leader at the time Chris Webb which you had no business seeing?

Or that you set up the spoof site ADT where peopled where labelled whores, junkies and paedophiles, and a photo of a swimming pig was labelled as an ATD posters wife?

Or is it the private investigator business you are denying happened? And that it was you and Chris Webb who broke the information that the P.I. was Tony Hooper and he gave my mothers private details to Lee Jameson who showed it to you on a Gt's coach last season?

I'm intrigued Ian. I'm intrigued which of these "vile accusations" are untrue?

Could it be that you didn't send a picture of a white feather, denoting cowardice, to Thai Green who has cancer?

Come on Mr Salt of the earth wouldn't be involved in any of that kind of thing, which of these "vile accusations" is untrue?

Maybe it's the claim by me that your son Mike sent me e-mails threatening me with violence?

If you could just clear up which of these claims are untrue it would help immensely. I might even agree to meet you if you can confirm which of these claims you are disputing. Bearing in mind I have witness statements from people who were in the Tribute lounge when the attacks on Roger took place, I have a full copy of The Newell Files which contain the entire contents of your Flickr account, I have several e-mails from you which back up some of the claims I'm making, plus text messages from Chris Webb, and e-mails from Mike Newell to me.

It would give your legion of supporters such peace of mind if you could just pinpoint exactly which of my allegations are untrue? I grant you they're vile, because they show what a vile creature you really are, but if you could respond to help clear it up then I can disprove it all and make you look the lying tw@t you really are

Maybe you could tell Cerbera and he could post your response as he loves to be involved

You see Ian it's all well and good making a sweeping statement like that but you know I can make you look like an ass so please narrow it down to specifics and I'll deal with the claims one by one.

In your own time

Even better Ian. Why don't you ask someone you trust to be the middle man and they can contact me. Then I'll pass all of my evidence to them and they can post it all on Pasoti.

Can't say fairer than that can we Ian? There must be someone you trust who you will allow to post evidence backing up my claims on Pasoti? What have you got to lose except your reputation?

Now I have a hunch here that you will not be willing to allow someone to post the Newell Files, the e-mails and the rest because it will make you look like a muppet and show the Pasoti world what a vile creature you are.

I await your reply, which as a betting man I would think will be along the lines of "I don't have to listen to this crazy man. He's made up a total pack of lies and is harrassing me"

As I keep being told, put up or shut up Ian, what's it to be?

I hope he got some nice biscuits in for the old bill tomorrow.

Yea Man wrote:

I hope he got some nice biscuits in for the old bill tomorrow.

Surely donuts if all those cop films ive watched have taught me anything.

Well no reply to my offer which could have proved my claims are not bullshit whatsoever, which is no surprise, so I've posted some e-mails between Ian Newell and myself and the threats by Mike Newell to me on the 200% blog.

I know people are bored of it all now and just want the fans to be united etc. but I feel a duty to Roger/Baba for disclosing the details of the attacks on him in the hospitlaity suite at Home Park, and all I want is for the people involved to apologise and assure Roger/Baba it won't happen again.

You would think Ian Newell would either deny that the incidents ever took place or to save him more embarrassment he would make sure his son and his friend would agree to the apologies/assurances.

I hope his police interview goes well tomorrow then and I look forward to posting a big chunk of his Flickr account which will back up a lot more of the claims I'm making.

Fruitcake I might be, but not a lying fruitcake

You know it makes sense Ian, your reputation and word are taking a battering and it doesn't take much for you to get me to stop tarnishing you, and Tony Hooper and Chris Webb even more.

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Oh dear. The truth will out. Once a hoolie thug and all that.

Rob Martin wrote:

I was the gentleman who invited Roger into the business lounge for the Exeter game and have done so on numerous times having been a guest of the Company concerned who sponsored the table, South West Fires and Flues, and also when I have taken tables and sponsored games myself – Gillingham – this season. We also both have advertising boards around the ground. What happened after the Exeter game is pretty spot on and even I was threatened by Newells boy, although he put that down to mistaken identity afterwards. This happened after the game when Newell snr came down from the boardroom and must have wagged his finger at our table to his sub lieutenants to attack. What was so mad about it was that he then turned peacemaker when I took offence and dragged his son, daughter and others away. Their table was rowdy all day and were singing “we’re all on the piss again”. Not the best behaviour but sadly tolerated by the stewards.
I was also there when the drink incident occurred and followed Mr Newell calling Baba an educated wanker. To much beer had flowed that day for me to identify anyone but I was sober at Exeter due to illness.
I am not an Internet keyboard warrior, this is the first time that I have posted anything. My main passions apart from my family are business, Argyle and beer. The business lounge should be the perfect arena for those activities but their boorish, thuggish behaviour ruined what should have been a perfect day.
I will be at the South west fires and flues table again on Saturday should anyone want to question me about it.
Wthout knowing the guy,I had a respect for Ian Newell as a doer and one of the saviours of PAFC but incidents like this can’t do him or James Brent any favours.

Gert Loinz wrote:

Oh dear. The truth will out. Once a hoolie thug and all that.

Rob Martin wrote:

I was the gentleman who invited Roger into the business lounge for the Exeter game and have done so on numerous times having been a guest of the Company concerned who sponsored the table, South West Fires and Flues, and also when I have taken tables and sponsored games myself – Gillingham – this season. We also both have advertising boards around the ground. What happened after the Exeter game is pretty spot on and even I was threatened by Newells boy, although he put that down to mistaken identity afterwards. This happened after the game when Newell snr came down from the boardroom and must have wagged his finger at our table to his sub lieutenants to attack. What was so mad about it was that he then turned peacemaker when I took offence and dragged his son, daughter and others away. Their table was rowdy all day and were singing “we’re all on the piss again”. Not the best behaviour but sadly tolerated by the stewards.
I was also there when the drink incident occurred and followed Mr Newell calling Baba an educated wanker. To much beer had flowed that day for me to identify anyone but I was sober at Exeter due to illness.
I am not an Internet keyboard warrior, this is the first time that I have posted anything. My main passions apart from my family are business, Argyle and beer. The business lounge should be the perfect arena for those activities but their boorish, thuggish behaviour ruined what should have been a perfect day.
I will be at the South west fires and flues table again on Saturday should anyone want to question me about it.
Wthout knowing the guy,I had a respect for Ian Newell as a doer and one of the saviours of PAFC but incidents like this can’t do him or James Brent any favours.

Well thank feck for that!

So all you wankers who called me a fruitcake etc can go to Hell now. Straight from the horses mouth!

Now do Mike Newell and Pete Desborough fancy apologising and assuring Roger Willis that it won't happen again?

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Greenjock wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

Oh dear. The truth will out. Once a hoolie thug and all that.

Rob Martin wrote:

I was the gentleman who invited Roger into the business lounge for the Exeter game and have done so on numerous times having been a guest of the Company concerned who sponsored the table, South West Fires and Flues, and also when I have taken tables and sponsored games myself – Gillingham – this season. We also both have advertising boards around the ground. What happened after the Exeter game is pretty spot on and even I was threatened by Newells boy, although he put that down to mistaken identity afterwards. This happened after the game when Newell snr came down from the boardroom and must have wagged his finger at our table to his sub lieutenants to attack. What was so mad about it was that he then turned peacemaker when I took offence and dragged his son, daughter and others away. Their table was rowdy all day and were singing “we’re all on the piss again”. Not the best behaviour but sadly tolerated by the stewards.
I was also there when the drink incident occurred and followed Mr Newell calling Baba an educated wanker. To much beer had flowed that day for me to identify anyone but I was sober at Exeter due to illness.
I am not an Internet keyboard warrior, this is the first time that I have posted anything. My main passions apart from my family are business, Argyle and beer. The business lounge should be the perfect arena for those activities but their boorish, thuggish behaviour ruined what should have been a perfect day.
I will be at the South west fires and flues table again on Saturday should anyone want to question me about it.
Wthout knowing the guy,I had a respect for Ian Newell as a doer and one of the saviours of PAFC but incidents like this can’t do him or James Brent any favours.

Well thank feck for that!

Where is this from Gert?

200 %

Ouch!

Now if that was from someone random who left no details i'd say it was someone with an axe to grind using this as a chance to get at Newell but that guy has left his name and company details there.

Easily enough info to take action against if it wasn't true.

So come on the Mr Newell defend that.

I think this week is going to be a popcorn special!!!!

police visits and no doubt this will be in the papers whether GJ calles the journalist or not someone will pick this up.

Yob culture condoned by the club if no action is taken.

200% must moderate the comments on their site surely?

Someone must be letting this run.

Yea Man wrote:

200% must moderate the comments on their site surely?

Someone must be letting this run.

i dont think they do as there is alot of fake comments on there with the genuine ones!

Brilliant. Incontrovertible evidence from a named person who nobody's ever heard of, so who can't be accused of being tarnished by association with this site.

I doubt that page will be shown to the officer popping round for tea tomorrow. Not now, anyway.

Yea Man - yes, they do. I just posted something and it's 'awaiting moderation'. Good for them for letting people speak out (even if the obvious trolls got through).

greenjock are you calling the journalist? i would donate the fee to the trust

Think he (we - this does involve a lot of us) should wait to see what the club does first, Angry. And, of course, the police.

Peggy * wrote:

Think he (we - this does involve a lot of us) should wait to see what the club does first, Angry. And, of course, the police.

I dont pretend to know Ian Newell but i would think he would be smart enough to cancel that home visit as it may backfire on him badly if they start to look into greenjock's emails and story.

I still feel they wont do anything and see this as tit for tat spats but the club it will be interesting to see what they do.

I'd like to see how long Mr Rob Martin's post would last on the farm.

The threats against Jock from the Greenman account, if they weren't from De Lar, were probably the work of a Newell.

Gert Loinz wrote:

I'd like to see how long Mr Rob Martin's post would last on the farm.

The threats against Jock from the Greenman account, if they weren't from De Lar, were probably the work of a Newell.

Still doesn't answer why chris webb' s IP was linked to it though!! that has never been established.

I think a new thread entitled 'the proof of Newell thuggery' might be in order. It'll end up getting lost in this thread.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

I'd like to see how long Mr Rob Martin's post would last on the farm.

The threats against Jock from the Greenman account, if they weren't from De Lar, were probably the work of a Newell.

Still doesn't answer why chris webb' s IP was linked to it though!! that has never been established.

There were definitely at least 2 people using Greenman - one of them was pretty literate the other was an illiterate thug. I know who my money is on.

A screenshot of that Rob Martin post on 200% may be an idea too. I can imagine the Controllers at HQ Pyongyang are frothing at the mouth and will be demanding a top online lawyer gets that sort of sane, considered, measured, incriminating evidence deleted forthwith.

I just feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

I'm a fruitcake, I'm a wanker, I neglect my son etc etc etc.

I want feck all to do with this club anymore. It's affected me so badly healthwise all this shit and do you know what? I bet Newell has a smartass answer for this anyway and laughs it off.

I'll be attacked like never before now but at least I can hold my head up high while those tossers who have made my life a misery can hang there's in shame.

This is the e-mail I've just sent to James Greenacre the hospitality manager at Argyle who's been dealing with it.

This is where the club I love is right now, and we're knocking Millwall for their fans being thugs and are ruining their club?

I'm off to bed now.

Hi James,

I have been accused of allsorts recently for bringing this to light and finally someone else has also had the courage to speak out to corroborate my claims.

The name of the other witness is Rob Martin of Southwest Fires and Flues, and here is his version of what I have contacted you about. This was posted on the 200% blog earlier tonight:

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Rob Martin wrote:
I was the gentleman who invited Roger into the business lounge for the Exeter game and have done so on numerous times having been a guest of the Company concerned who sponsored the table, South West Fires and Flues, and also when I have taken tables and sponsored games myself – Gillingham – this season. We also both have advertising boards around the ground. What happened after the Exeter game is pretty spot on and even I was threatened by Newells boy, although he put that down to mistaken identity afterwards. This happened after the game when Newell snr came down from the boardroom and must have wagged his finger at our table to his sub lieutenants to attack. What was so mad about it was that he then turned peacemaker when I took offence and dragged his son, daughter and others away. Their table was rowdy all day and were singing “we’re all on the piss again”. Not the best behaviour but sadly tolerated by the stewards.
I was also there when the drink incident occurred and followed Mr Newell calling Baba an educated wanker. To much beer had flowed that day for me to identify anyone but I was sober at Exeter due to illness.
I am not an Internet keyboard warrior, this is the first time that I have posted anything. My main passions apart from my family are business, Argyle and beer. The business lounge should be the perfect arena for those activities but their boorish, thuggish behaviour ruined what should have been a perfect day.
I will be at the South west fires and flues table again on Saturday should anyone want to question me about it.
Wthout knowing the guy,I had a respect for Ian Newell as a doer and one of the saviours of PAFC but incidents like this can’t do him or James Brent any favours.



All I have wanted is for Roger Willis to be allowed to attend Argyle games without being threatened or attacked, which having a drink thrown over you for no reason is. As I first brought the complaint to light, despite Roger not wanting to escalate it in case of future reprisals, I have considered it my duty to do something about it and get assurances that it won't happen again, ever!

Since I have brought it to people's attention I have been sick with worry because I have been told that the persons who took part in the threats and assault are pretty much thugs who will now target me. Well I've been a target for Mr Newell's and his friends ire for quite some time now anyway.

I've had a private investigator, Tony Hooper, hired to spy on me and he supplied my mother's details to another well known Argyle fan in Lee Jameson, who in turn paraded the details boastfully on board a supporters coach last season to Ian Newell and others.

I've had God knows how many threats of violence made to me by Mike Newell and by people under protection of a pseudonym, Ian De Lar admits being part of it but won't reveal the other participants, and I'm fairly certain that people with "connections" to Argyle were also involved in issuing these threats.

My crime? I started being critical of Peter Ridsdale on PASOTI a while ago! Then I was stitched up by Ian Newell who put the safety of myself and my family at risk if Mr Newell's claims that a "dangerous" character was involved are true, and latterly I have asked some questions about the direction of the club.

As the abuse and threats got worse I have become more and more acerbic myself to the point that I have almost been as bad as the people threatening me, and for that I am truly sorry but it is extremely difficult to be threatened continually without it affecting you.

I've had telephone calls at all hours of the night, anonymous and withheld of course, but that relate to these incidents, and to tell you the truth it has put me off Argyle for life. I've been a regular visitor to Home Park since 1983 and will never set foot there again because of this. The people behind all of this are personal friends of James Brent's and act as though they are immune to any repercussions over their behaviour.

These people ahve even blamed the threats, entirely falsely, on a really good young man who works for Argyle in Sean Rapson. Ian Newell and Chris Webb were prepared to let this decent young lad take the blame for their and their friends actions. The club president and the man who sits next to the club owner week in week out!

Since administration things have been really bad, as bad as I can remember, on the pitch, but what has been worse is the off-field activities of certain high profile fans, who have attacked the Argyle Fans Trust who were in a major way responsible for the club surviving, to the point where it is a fragmented organisation which wants the best for the club but is always fighting an uphill battle, and anyone who has a differing opinion to them.

The things I have pointed out in the 200% blog and to you recently are only the tip of the iceberg as far as disturbing activities are concerned, and it has caused such a division within the fanbase that I know of several people who
like me also won't ever set foot in Home Park again because of the disgusting abuse they have been subjected to.

That means a loss of several supporters and more importantly like myself I won't ever encourage my 2 year old son to follow Argyle because of all this, so another generation is lost.

That is a real shame when it is difficult enough to get youngsters to support Argyle instead of the bigger clubs they can watch on TV week in week out. The actions of a few fans who think that they are more important than others, and count James Brent amongst their friends.

I hope he's proud of his friends behaviour!

I also hope that Roger Willis is compensated in some way for the ordeals he has faced when all he is is a lifelong Argyle fan who feels he has the right to ask a few questions about the direction in which the club is heading. I really hope that you are able to convince him that he will be safe if he ever decides to go to any future games because he has been considering jacking it all in like I have.

I won't bother supplying any more details or witness statements because frankly I think this will all be brushed under the carpet anyway, but if I get any threats or am attacked again because of blowing the whistle on this, I will be giving all the details to the journalist I have been speaking to about it who is keen for the full facts so he can report it all in his newspaper.

He feels that it deserves to be aired to a larger audience than the online fan forums and a small football blog, which will have an affect on business for Argyle, but I'm so weary of it all now I just want to slip away into the shadows and concentrate on enjoying my family and not feel that their safety is at risk.

Pete Gordon.

There can be no defence from Newell.

A named witness, someone who can easily be traced has come forward.

Nobody would know who this person is from tom dick or harry and for them to name their company aswell proves to me that it's 100% genuine.

With the "mountain of evidence" mounting against Newell, I can see the Pasoti version of "work in Progress" progressing to the terraces soon!

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Previously.. Prior to Newell's takeover, the thread would never have lasted on the main board for more than ten minutes anyway.

So... Pasoti's first shift in 'policy' - No moving Newell...