My Take On Mr Brent & His Plans

Another question for Mr Brent - if you decide not to use Cottage Field for the construction of the new stand, hotel and ice rink, would you be prepared to use the field for a studio school and/or student accommodation once the first phase of development is completed?

More of the two leaders having they say

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Tringreen wrote:

Rickler wrote:

The question that should be asked of Brent is...

If the ice rink can be moved to Cottage field, are you willing to build a bigger and more purpose driven stand?

Indeed. It would be an iconic statement of intent [minus the lighthouse] and a real legacy for future generations. I can feel my lip quivering at the very thought

I read that Cottage Field is in line for development by PCC anyway.

Vivien stated no green land will be built on

Speaking to The Herald later, Mr Evans denied that he had any intention of developing the park, and said he had campaigned on a manifesto that was committed to "protecting the city's green lung"[/qu

Cottage field will have a development earmarked for it don't you worry.

Greenjock wrote:

"protecting the city's green lung"

Just a quick question, Plymouth, it's still a relatively small city with no 'real industry' surrounded by Dartmoor, the open sea, sitting just up the road from the glorious Devon Riviera, yes ?

Tgwu wrote:

No way is he to build on cottage field, put the cinema and ice ring and what goes with it in the city centre.

Where would it go? honestly? Plymouth city centre is purpose built before any major redevelopment or business will venture into it the whole layout will need rebuilding. Where would you fit an ice rink? where would you fit a multiplex cinema? there maybe lots of empty shops but that doesnt mean you can fit these into the city centre when you would need to knock down half of it first.

The development is needed for Plymouth that isnt disputed but it shouldnt come at the expense of the club and its future which it will do with the proposals are to remain and the mainstand being restricted. If moving the ice rink on to or half of cottage field will please all concerned then so be it you cant win an argument if your not prepare to compromise a little.

Central Park wont miss that field given there are several footy/rugby pitches for djm and others to use and aslong as there is a decree that no other green space will be built apon in future then its an alternative to work with. At the end of the day if losing a playing field or half of it has to happen then

I think Graham Clark said that PCC (which I guess Tudor 'Man Utd fan' Evans has been on for years) allowed the life centre to be built on Green land-

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The Park is one of the City's major assets and is treasured if underused by the local population. The City attempted to address the poor standard of facilities offered by capitalising upon the grants on offer to deliver the Life Centre. A controversial decision at the time but it was decided the benefits outweighed the advantages. In doing so they demolished the Mayflower Centre (5,000m2) and the Central Park Pool (3,550m2) and in its place they built the Life Centre (15,000m2) in accordance with their own policy backed by an independent Planning Inspector.

So the Life Centre was responsible for a loss of 6,550m2 to 'concrete' as you put it. To put it context that is roughly the size of a Cottage Field. There is an irony to this as you will understand, particularly when the Council, in accordance with the Central Park AAP, will be pushing for the development (or 'concreting') of some of their other landholdings within the Park. You will, therefore, see why some question 'why not build on Cottage Field' (which I understand has been described as the 'magic solution') when it represents much less than 1% of the total park area and when the City Council have, and will continue to, build on the Park for their own purposes without anyone batting an eyelid!

one question what happend to the space behind the lifecentre where the old mayflower and swimming pool was?

why not put it there?

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

"protecting the city's green lung"

Just a quick question, Plymouth, it's still a relatively small city with no 'real industry' surrounded by Dartmoor, the open sea, sitting just up the road from the glorious Devon Riviera, yes ?

I don't think it's any big secret that many parts of Plymouth are pretty rundown - but I did chuckle at this gem.

Exeter most bland

i prefer exeter city centre's layout to plymouth's perhaps thats why they can attract businesses to the city where Plymouth can only attract charity shops and costa

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

No way is he to build on cottage field, put the cinema and ice ring and what goes with it in the city centre.

Where would it go? honestly? Plymouth city centre is purpose built before any major redevelopment or business will venture into it the whole layout will need rebuilding. Where would you fit an ice rink? where would you fit a multiplex cinema? there maybe lots of empty shops but that doesnt mean you can fit these into the city centre when you would need to knock down half of it first.

The development is needed for Plymouth that isnt disputed but it shouldnt come at the expense of the club and its future which it will do with the proposals are to remain and the mainstand being restricted. If moving the ice rink on to or half of cottage field will please all concerned then so be it you cant win an argument if your not prepare to compromise a little.

Central Park wont miss that field given there are several footy/rugby pitches for djm and others to use and aslong as there is a decree that no other green space will be built apon in future then its an alternative to work with. At the end of the day if losing a playing field or half of it has to happen then

Whilst I was involved with Raiders we were asked to work with a company looking to build an Arena and massive Surf Wave facility with bars, shops etc at Colin Campbell Court. All just before the major banking collapse but the City were right behind it.

will the basketball team be moving to the new set up?
i ve fancied watching a game of it,quite good arent they?

Plenty of sites in the centre.

You have the area of the Colin Court Car Park with all the empty shops on the Weston Approach side, the toy us and it’s Car Park and the old Odeon cinema foot print.

alannotivvy wrote:

will the basketball team be moving to the new set up?
i ve fancied watching a game of it,quite good arent they?

god knows where they are going to play for a season when the pavilions is knocked down!

Damon.Lenszner wrote:

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

No way is he to build on cottage field, put the cinema and ice ring and what goes with it in the city centre.

Where would it go? honestly? Plymouth city centre is purpose built before any major redevelopment or business will venture into it the whole layout will need rebuilding. Where would you fit an ice rink? where would you fit a multiplex cinema? there maybe lots of empty shops but that doesnt mean you can fit these into the city centre when you would need to knock down half of it first.

The development is needed for Plymouth that isnt disputed but it shouldnt come at the expense of the club and its future which it will do with the proposals are to remain and the mainstand being restricted. If moving the ice rink on to or half of cottage field will please all concerned then so be it you cant win an argument if your not prepare to compromise a little.

Central Park wont miss that field given there are several footy/rugby pitches for djm and others to use and aslong as there is a decree that no other green space will be built apon in future then its an alternative to work with. At the end of the day if losing a playing field or half of it has to happen then

Whilst I was involved with Raiders we were asked to work with a company looking to build an Arena and massive Surf Wave facility with bars, shops etc at Colin Campbell Court. All just before the major banking collapse but the City were right behind it.

the pavilions needs replacing that proposal would have been great i just hope Brents other development idea works out when ever that starts!

Tgwu wrote:

Plenty of sites in the centre.

You have the area of the Colin Court Car Park with all the empty shops on the Weston Approach side, the toy us and it’s Car Park and the old Odeon cinema foot print.

you keep proving my point there is no where suitable atm until they regenerate the whole area to allow it. 2020 whats the deal with that council lead idea?

Gert Loinz wrote:

I don't think it's any big secret that many parts of Plymouth are pretty rundown - but I did chuckle at this gem.

Exeter most bland

Oh dear lore, that little survey seems to put Shepherds Bush on a pedestal, you think parts of Muff are rundown then the Bush would be a revelation.

Rickler wrote:

Okay....

The question that should be asked of Brent is...

If the ice rink can be moved to -------- are you willing to build a bigger and more purpose driven stand?

He answered this question with 'yes' at the PASB meeting. Whether he'd be prepared to do it and walk the walk on it is obviously a different matter. First priority of the Trust and independent fans imo should be to press for this.

I'm not unaware of the irony of suggesting what independents should do, but I mean it in the sense of fans who support the cause but aren't members of the Trust.

GreenSam wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Okay....

The question that should be asked of Brent is...

If the ice rink can be moved to -------- are you willing to build a bigger and more purpose driven stand?

He answered this question with 'yes' at the PASB meeting. Whether he'd be prepared to do it and walk the walk on it is obviously a different matter. First priority of the Trust and independent fans imo should be to press for this.

I'm not unaware of the irony of suggesting what independents should do, but I mean it in the sense of fans who support the cause but aren't members of the Trust.

Depends on where the alternative home would be i guess. As Brent owns the land of the carpark i can see him being stubborn if he were told to move it on to cottage field or behind life centre or even in town somewhere.

Yea Man wrote:

Pokesdown wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Happy Daze wrote:

Has the presidential personage spoken at all recently? or have I just been lucky and missed it?

I thought he was up a mountain in Africa? Is he back?

This

Coming

Monday

Funny little gap when tcm stopped posting coincides with when webby was up a mountain.

Shame he didn't get stuck up there really.

iam chriss webb now you realy are mental you lot arnt you

mods can we ban tcm for his terrible attempts of trolling? If pasoti mods or if indeed this is mike newell want to troll on here they really ought to try harder.
tis dat alo rite,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

fec you mr angry

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

No way is he to build on cottage field, put the cinema and ice ring and what goes with it in the city centre.

Where would it go? honestly? Plymouth city centre is purpose built before any major redevelopment or business will venture into it the whole layout will need rebuilding. Where would you fit an ice rink? where would you fit a multiplex cinema? there maybe lots of empty shops but that doesnt mean you can fit these into the city centre when you would need to knock down half of it first.

The development is needed for Plymouth that isnt disputed but it shouldnt come at the expense of the club and its future which it will do with the proposals are to remain and the mainstand being restricted. If moving the ice rink on to or half of cottage field will please all concerned then so be it you cant win an argument if your not prepare to compromise a little.

Central Park wont miss that field given there are several footy/rugby pitches for djm and others to use and aslong as there is a decree that no other green space will be built apon in future then its an alternative to work with. At the end of the day if losing a playing field or half of it has to happen then

I am not sure if there is any commitment to keep central park green, I think the wording of the covenant is "to be used by the people of Plymouth for their leisure and recreation." ice rink could be construed as just that I guess?

Angry of Manchester wrote:

one question what happend to the space behind the lifecentre where the old mayflower and swimming pool was?

why not put it there?

Because the life centre takes up a bigger footprint than the previous buildings they agreed to put the old space back to grassland.

tcm wrote:

fec you mr angry

how does jet fuel taste mike?

Angry of Manchester wrote:

tcm wrote:

fec you mr angry

how does jet fuel taste mike?

iam not mike