The president's gone

hairy j wrote:

GreenWhiteBlack wrote:

If Chris didnt post any personal abuse on that account then why does it even matter? How many of you can say you've never had two accounts on Pasoti?

The first part for me. The second part is always iffy. Having a second account that's anonymous can tempt someone into losing their inhibitions and without consequence, behaviour can be very different.

I am positive Chris Webb will not remain silent - he's currently working away from home and needs to focus upon that - one of the reasons his Twitter account isn't as active right now is that he's simply working. I know that as he's told me.
I believe he only posted anti-Guilfoyle posts.

IJN fessing up to this, that and the other might just be his ego - he wants other people to believe he's in the know about everything as it paints him as a very important person.

Funny that Hairy because Newell said that it was because he was being stalked.

You don't get it though - The Club President posted under Windsor Boy to undermine the elections to the Board of the Fans' Trust that he was leader of just weeks earlier and that in public he supported (*). That does matter.


(*) allegedly

hairy j wrote:

GreenWhiteBlack wrote:

If Chris didnt post any personal abuse on that account then why does it even matter? How many of you can say you've never had two accounts on Pasoti?

The first part for me. The second part is always iffy. Having a second account that's anonymous can tempt someone into losing their inhibitions and without consequence, behaviour can be very different.

I am positive Chris Webb will not remain silent - he's currently working away from home and needs to focus upon that - one of the reasons his Twitter account isn't as active right now is that he's simply working. I know that as he's told me.

I believe he only posted anti-Guilfoyle posts.

IJN fessing up to this, that and the other might just be his ego - he wants other people to believe he's in the know about everything as it paints him as a very important person.

One thing I never had you down as Hairy, was gullible.

Webb has been caught with his pants gloriously around his ankles.

I've no doubt he would have poured his heart out to you when you've been chatting. Fair play to Chris, he has identified you as one to 'try and get onside'.

He's succeeded. But in the light of recents events, looking stupid by defending him should be left to fall guys like Newell, not people like you.

True maybe but I have more faith in Chris Webb's version of events than Ian's version. I wouldn't trust Ian Newell in a thousand years. The stalker thing has been brought up by IJN and it actually supports his usual MO of being a victim in a sea of freaks and weirdos. Webby said he'd turned it to private so his phone doesn't keep going off and so he isn't tempted to keep checking it. That's actually a more sensible and likely explanation.

I'm not gullible but I'm not cynical enough yet to think everything is a big conspiracy.

Time will tell and if I'm wrong, I'll come out and say that I am. I hope I'm not.

Pokesdown wrote:

hairy j wrote:

GreenWhiteBlack wrote:

If Chris didnt post any personal abuse on that account then why does it even matter? How many of you can say you've never had two accounts on Pasoti?

The first part for me. The second part is always iffy. Having a second account that's anonymous can tempt someone into losing their inhibitions and without consequence, behaviour can be very different.

I am positive Chris Webb will not remain silent - he's currently working away from home and needs to focus upon that - one of the reasons his Twitter account isn't as active right now is that he's simply working. I know that as he's told me.
I believe he only posted anti-Guilfoyle posts.

IJN fessing up to this, that and the other might just be his ego - he wants other people to believe he's in the know about everything as it paints him as a very important person.

Funny that Hairy because Newell said that it was because he was being stalked.

You don't get it though - The Club President posted under Windsor Boy to undermine the elections to the Board of the Fans' Trust that he was leader of just weeks earlier and that in public he supported (*). That does matter.


(*) allegedly

Absolutely this

It's possible of course that Hairy's analysis is correct. However it is based, in part, on contact with Webb, an already 'discredited witness' and exposed for not telling the truth and therefore I don't believe it to be true. Webb's political job function revolves around manipulation of the masses and he's clearly skilled at it.

i dont trust any of them.
they are mired in scandal & the webb of deceit.

RESIGN !

A so called stalker being the latest sympathy card played after exposure of wrong doing.

On the 1st November 2012, Chris Webb rang me at around 9.30am. This was the morning after he had been exposed as using the Greenman account.

Chris had been given my number previously by Ian Newell and we had communicated on a number of issues during the past year. However, Chris had recently lost his phone and my number with it. He had obviously obtained my number again from Newell.

After a lively discussion about Greenman and proxies, we talked about wider Argyle internet issues, and of course the subject of Mr Newell came up. We must have been talking for about an hour by this stage. Chris Webb clearly stated that Ian Newell had been told by the club to delete his Pasoti account or lose his AAA pass. I opined that this was a good idea as controversy was never far away from Mr Newell and his behaviour was bringing the club into disrepute. I also opined that Mr Newell may well be a great guy in real life but on the internet he was a complete dick. Chris Webb did not disagree with comment.

A few days later his account was deleted on Pasoti.

Now Mr Newell is claiming that he was never told by the club to delete his account. He does however claim that his account was deleted with the agreement of a Pasoti mod:

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IJN
Post subject: Re: Rumours/Conspiracies HijackPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:17 am


Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:15 pm
Jeez Hairy, you won't stop saying it will you?

The 'offenders' in DT, are Wozzer (make no bones about it, he was not set up like some people have suggested), Lee for popping at Mr Lloyd (which was daft) and obviously me for passing over the password.

My multi accountdedness, was never ever spitefull, it really wasn't, but I'm sure ther are those that won't want to believe it.

As for Peter Jones, he had nothing to do with DT.

It's been said many times before, but I'll say it again as people like Hairy have repetitive post syndrome, this is a football fans website, not United Nations.

Mistakes have been made by a few people, that's it.

Some people have asked that I be banned from Pasoti for my part in DT, which is understandable in this internetty world.

Well for those people I would say that I reached a private agreement with a certain Mod on this site that I would not post for a certain period of time and I kept to that agreement. Was it broadcast, no it wasn't, but I've done my time Guv.

The fact that certain others suggested that I had been gagged by the club were again laughable.

So for the need for information, the near obsessive questioning by those who suddenly seem to have found a voice (on here) despite having a very dodgy and chequered past themselves, I have nothing else to tell.

I will from now on try to only post when I'm fundraising, lots of stuff coming up regarding the Youth team, as I seem to have a natural ability for that.

_________________
@IJN3 on Twitter

So one of them is lying. Which one? If its Webb it further brings his position as president into question. Why would he tell me that Newell had been gagged by the club?

If Newell is lying then it brings into questions all of his "confessions" on the Pasoti conspiracy/hijack thread. How can we trust his "confession" that Webb only posted once as DT? And that Peter Jones was not involved?

This isn't going to go away.......

I think Frank that Richard Nixon would be held up as a paragon of honesty against Ian Newell. This is why I'd believe Chris Webb over anything IJN posts.

He'd never, ever admit to being gagged as it would make certain people on ATD and more importantly pasoti (make no mistake, he's got his online enemies over tere) explode in an orgasm of Schadenfreude so large that the entire internet would implode in a black hole of glee - i.e. people would be pointing at him and laughing.

hairy j wrote:

I think Frank that Richard Nixon would be held up as a paragon of honesty against Ian Newell. This is why I'd believe Chris Webb over anything IJN posts.

He'd never, ever admit to being gagged as it would make certain people on ATD and more importantly pasoti (make no mistake, he's got his online enemies over tere) explode in an orgasm of Schadenfreude so large that the entire internet would implode in a black hole of glee - i.e. people would be pointing at him and laughing.

I agree.

But I also think that Pasoti are making a mistake by moderating their site with 2 eyes on ATD. They are making bad decisions because they don't want us to orgasm about it, rather then making good decisions that will benefit Pasoti.

liars, they know it, we know it.

hairy j wrote:

I think Frank that Richard Nixon would be held up as a paragon of honesty against Ian Newell. This is why I'd believe Chris Webb over anything IJN posts.

He'd never, ever admit to being gagged as it would make certain people on ATD and more importantly pasoti (make no mistake, he's got his online enemies over tere) explode in an orgasm of Schadenfreude so large that the entire internet would implode in a black hole of glee - i.e. people would be pointing at him and laughing.

I have gone on record many a time and said that I think that Webb is a decent bloke who has been twisted by hanging out with Newell. The question is why did they become such great mates? It's because they have so much in common. The fact is that Webb has been caught playing games on the Internet using aliases and he has done that to destabilise the Trust so that Brent can move ahead with the pasalb or whatever it is called. The fact that he is President of Argyle makes it different to say you or me doing it, vastly different. As other posters have said if he only used it to out the fact that Brenda was selling Nelson for 15k (which to my memory Ridsdale did and then Brent said they would renegotiate the price of the club if he went?) why didn't he come clean? Wozzer did just that, everybody called him a wanker and promptly forgot about it, Wozzer more or less has his reputation intact. You are the same as Webb and Newell hairy, you just love flogging a dead horse.

Iggy wrote:

hairy j wrote:

I think Frank that Richard Nixon would be held up as a paragon of honesty against Ian Newell. This is why I'd believe Chris Webb over anything IJN posts.

He'd never, ever admit to being gagged as it would make certain people on ATD and more importantly pasoti (make no mistake, he's got his online enemies over tere) explode in an orgasm of Schadenfreude so large that the entire internet would implode in a black hole of glee - i.e. people would be pointing at him and laughing.

I have gone on record many a time and said that I think that Webb is a decent bloke who has been twisted by hanging out with Newell. The question is why did they become such great mates? It's because they have so much in common. The fact is that Webb has been caught playing games on the Internet using aliases and he has done that to destabilise the Trust so that Brent can move ahead with the pasalb or whatever it is called. The fact that he is President of Argyle makes it different to say you or me doing it, vastly different. As other posters have said if he only used it to out the fact that Brenda was selling Nelson for 15k (which to my memory Ridsdale did and then Brent said they would renegotiate the price of the club if he went?) why didn't he come clean? Wozzer did just that, everybody called him a wanker and promptly forgot about it, Wozzer more or less has his reputation intact. You are the same as Webb and Newell hairy, you just love flogging a dead horse.

I'm actually a normal fan who just goes to games and has an online presence based upon my support for PAFC. I actually post a lot on the internet on AV Forums (it's a dedicated website for audio/visual consumer products) and a videogame forum - I've posted on these for a long time under a different non PAFC related username; I'vegot a combined pot count on those two forums of over 15,000. There's not too many fun and games on those forums so no, I'm not like Ian Newell am I.

I just happen to not agree with everything you post Iggy. If you read around on pasoti and on here ad read my posts, I've tried to be balanced - apart from trying to wind Cerbs up as he's the next superfan in waiting - why he wants to get involved in all this though is beyond me as he always seemed pretty sensible and as history has proven, if you get involved with IJN online and become his 'friend', you end up being spat out and exposed.

GOB wrote:

Don't worry, there's plenty more shit to follow in the president's footsteps yet. Fact!

really so this isn't over ?

Well I'm rapidly getting bored with it now.

It's taken a few years but at least everyone is aware now so I think i'll return to annoying moderators, mayhem and generally having a larf!

GOB wrote:

Well I'm rapidly getting bored with it now.

It's taken a few years but at least everyone is aware now so I think i'll return to annoying moderators, mayhem and generally having a larf!

hmm doesn't seem like its ending yet unfortuatly

All that can be done it to make others aware, it's up to others what they do now. Of course there's always the PASB!

GOB wrote:

All that can be done it to make others aware, it's up to others what they do now. Of course there's always the PASB!

if they're not aware now they really are blinkered.

hairy j wrote:

GreenWhiteBlack wrote:

If Chris didnt post any personal abuse on that account then why does it even matter? How many of you can say you've never had two accounts on Pasoti?

The first part for me. The second part is always iffy. Having a second account that's anonymous can tempt someone into losing their inhibitions and without consequence, behaviour can be very different.

I am positive Chris Webb will not remain silent - he's currently working away from home and needs to focus upon that - one of the reasons his Twitter account isn't as active right now is that he's simply working. I know that as he's told me.

I believe he only posted anti-Guilfoyle posts.

IJN fessing up to this, that and the other might just be his ego - he wants other people to believe he's in the know about everything as it paints him as a very important person.

I'm sure IjN said on the conspiracy hijack thread on Pasoti that Chris had protected his twitter acconut because he had picked up a stalker

Dougie wrote:

hairy j wrote:

GreenWhiteBlack wrote:

If Chris didnt post any personal abuse on that account then why does it even matter? How many of you can say you've never had two accounts on Pasoti?

The first part for me. The second part is always iffy. Having a second account that's anonymous can tempt someone into losing their inhibitions and without consequence, behaviour can be very different.

I am positive Chris Webb will not remain silent - he's currently working away from home and needs to focus upon that - one of the reasons his Twitter account isn't as active right now is that he's simply working. I know that as he's told me.

I believe he only posted anti-Guilfoyle posts.

IJN fessing up to this, that and the other might just be his ego - he wants other people to believe he's in the know about everything as it paints him as a very important person.

I'm sure IjN said on the conspiracy hijack thread on Pasoti that Chris had protected his twitter acconut because he had picked up a stalker

reading between the lines here has something to hide ?

hairy j wrote:

I actually post a lot on the internet on AV Forums (it's a dedicated website for audio/visual consumer products) and a videogame forum - I've posted on these for a long time under a different non PAFC related username; I'vegot a combined pot count on those two forums of over 15,000.

Do you ever see your wife and kids?

Surely this must get in the way of making time for family, like your dad?

Oh, hang on....

that lasted long he's back [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

lying fecking wanker

Davidfriio4 wrote:

that lasted long he's back [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

lying fecking wanker

As advertised on Radio Devon this afternoon by Sparksy

Tgwu wrote:

Davidfriio4 wrote:

that lasted long he's back [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

lying fecking wanker

As advertised on Radio Devon this afternoon by Sparksy

didn't listen that long webbs voice pisses me off.

Davidfriio4 wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Davidfriio4 wrote:

that lasted long he's back [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

lying fecking wanker

As advertised on Radio Devon this afternoon by Sparksy

didn't listen that long webbs voice pisses me off.

Same here, unlucky when I got back to the car son had radio Devon on.

Tgwu wrote:

Davidfriio4 wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Davidfriio4 wrote:

that lasted long he's back [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

lying fecking wanker

As advertised on Radio Devon this afternoon by Sparksy

didn't listen that long webbs voice pisses me off.

Same here, unlucky when I got back to the car son had radio Devon on.

won't be too long once all this properly comes out till it will be Chris who again.

Davidfriio4 wrote:

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lying fecking wanker

Of course he is! Cometh the hour.... Cometh the man and all that....

However...
A bit surprised to find out that a solitary stalker had managed to take down Pasoti's very own "Churchill" in the first place.

I coudn't ever see 'Winston' hiding like that?