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Greenjock said.....
'I think because it's been 5 such shitty years that it's the norm to be pessimistic and argumentative. A decent spell of success would change that fairly quickly and I doubt if so many people would care if Newells in the directors box, or what Chris Webb's ip address is.'

I would.

'I'm sure there would still be some sniping and arguing, and the same old faces in greensonscreen, but somehow seeing Lee Jameson grinning like a complete fucktard again wouldn't grate as much as it does at the moment.'

Oh yes it would !

What people fail to appreciate is that the subversive, self promoting activities of these bullies in the Pasoti modroom, has almost certainly contributed to the club's demise under Stapleton, prolonged the misery under Ridsdale and now landed us with their asset stripping , non investing, clueless manager appointing, silly hat awarding, James Speccy Banker Brent.

Some of us have been trying to expose these people for years . At last, others can now see why.

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Tringreen wrote:
Greenjock said.....
'I think because it's been 5 such shitty years that it's the norm to be pessimistic and argumentative. A decent spell of success would change that fairly quickly and I doubt if so many people would care if Newells in the directors box, or what Chris Webb's ip address is.'

I would.

'I'm sure there would still be some sniping and arguing, and the same old faces in greensonscreen, but somehow seeing Lee Jameson grinning like a complete fucktard again wouldn't grate as much as it does at the moment.'

Oh yes it would !

What people fail to appreciate is that the subversive, self promoting activities of these bullies in the Pasoti modroom, has almost certainly contributed to the club's demise under Stapleton, prolonged the misery under Ridsdale and now landed us with their asset stripping , non investing, clueless manager appointing, silly hat awarding, James Speccy Banker Brent.

Some of us have been trying to expose these people for years . At last, others can now see why.


Ok so some people wouldn't want these things forgotten about, but my point is that the majority of the fanbase, or even just the majority of the online forums fanbase wouldn't care so much about these things if the club were doing well.

As we're in the lower regions of Division 4 still then it makes more people want a change. If under Brent we got promoted this year and won the JPT at Wembley, I don't think quite so many people would care about the online bickering. Ok so I don't actually think it possible under Brent and Fletcher, but if a new manager was brought in tomorrow and Brent invested a substantial amount of money then I think more people would lay off him and see where it goes.

If we're still in this league in say 2 years time then I reckon the falling out will get worse, simply because the majority of fans aren't still glad to just have a club to support. There comes a time when the masses will say Ok thanks for buying the club Mr Brent but when are we going to move on?

If we stagnate in this league, or God forbid get relegated then many more people are going to be looking at Mr Brent's other interests and start wondering why some of his fortune being made out of buying the club isn't being invested in making the club successful again like he promised.
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Greenjock wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
Greenjock said.....
'I think because it's been 5 such shitty years that it's the norm to be pessimistic and argumentative. A decent spell of success would change that fairly quickly and I doubt if so many people would care if Newells in the directors box, or what Chris Webb's ip address is.'

I would.

'I'm sure there would still be some sniping and arguing, and the same old faces in greensonscreen, but somehow seeing Lee Jameson grinning like a complete fucktard again wouldn't grate as much as it does at the moment.'

Oh yes it would !

What people fail to appreciate is that the subversive, self promoting activities of these bullies in the Pasoti modroom, has almost certainly contributed to the club's demise under Stapleton, prolonged the misery under Ridsdale and now landed us with their asset stripping , non investing, clueless manager appointing, silly hat awarding, James Speccy Banker Brent.

Some of us have been trying to expose these people for years . At last, others can now see why.


Ok so some people wouldn't want these things forgotten about, but my point is that the majority of the fanbase, or even just the majority of the online forums fanbase wouldn't care so much about these things if the club were doing well.

As we're in the lower regions of Division 4 still then it makes more people want a change. If under Brent we got promoted this year and won the JPT at Wembley, I don't think quite so many people would care about the online bickering. Ok so I don't actually think it possible under Brent and Fletcher, but if a new manager was brought in tomorrow and Brent invested a substantial amount of money then I think more people would lay off him and see where it goes.

If we're still in this league in say 2 years time then I reckon the falling out will get worse, simply because the majority of fans aren't still glad to just have a club to support. There comes a time when the masses will say Ok thanks for buying the club Mr Brent but when are we going to move on?

If we stagnate in this league, or God forbid get relegated then many more people are going to be looking at Mr Brent's other interests and start wondering why some of his fortune being made out of buying the club isn't being invested in making the club successful again like he promised.

Just another two years it is then.
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Tringreen wrote:
Greenjock wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
Greenjock said.....
'I think because it's been 5 such shitty years that it's the norm to be pessimistic and argumentative. A decent spell of success would change that fairly quickly and I doubt if so many people would care if Newells in the directors box, or what Chris Webb's ip address is.'

I would.

'I'm sure there would still be some sniping and arguing, and the same old faces in greensonscreen, but somehow seeing Lee Jameson grinning like a complete fucktard again wouldn't grate as much as it does at the moment.'

Oh yes it would !

What people fail to appreciate is that the subversive, self promoting activities of these bullies in the Pasoti modroom, has almost certainly contributed to the club's demise under Stapleton, prolonged the misery under Ridsdale and now landed us with their asset stripping , non investing, clueless manager appointing, silly hat awarding, James Speccy Banker Brent.

Some of us have been trying to expose these people for years . At last, others can now see why.


Ok so some people wouldn't want these things forgotten about, but my point is that the majority of the fanbase, or even just the majority of the online forums fanbase wouldn't care so much about these things if the club were doing well.

As we're in the lower regions of Division 4 still then it makes more people want a change. If under Brent we got promoted this year and won the JPT at Wembley, I don't think quite so many people would care about the online bickering. Ok so I don't actually think it possible under Brent and Fletcher, but if a new manager was brought in tomorrow and Brent invested a substantial amount of money then I think more people would lay off him and see where it goes.

If we're still in this league in say 2 years time then I reckon the falling out will get worse, simply because the majority of fans aren't still glad to just have a club to support. There comes a time when the masses will say Ok thanks for buying the club Mr Brent but when are we going to move on?

If we stagnate in this league, or God forbid get relegated then many more people are going to be looking at Mr Brent's other interests and start wondering why some of his fortune being made out of buying the club isn't being invested in making the club successful again like he promised.

Just another two years it is then.

I don't want to wait two years Tring. I think we should be up with the leaders now, with dross like Chadwick, Feeney and Williams put out to grass long ago. The fact that Fletcher doesn't know his ass from his elbow is solely Brents fault.

There seem to be too many fans willing to hold off of criticising fletcher yet, as they buy into this slow progress bullshit. Redundancies due to crowds being lower than expected is also a pile of crap, but there are enough sue pollards and Zeezans willing to do these little jobs for the club free of charge.

What I mean is that if it does take two years from now to be really challenging, then the argumente and dirty tricks will only get worse and more personal.

If one ex mod on Pasoti decides to blow the whistle on what has gone on behind the scenes then there will be a shitstorm that will provide plenty of onlookers the arguments they crave.
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Greenjock wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
Greenjock wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
Greenjock said.....
'I think because it's been 5 such shitty years that it's the norm to be pessimistic and argumentative. A decent spell of success would change that fairly quickly and I doubt if so many people would care if Newells in the directors box, or what Chris Webb's ip address is.'

I would.

'I'm sure there would still be some sniping and arguing, and the same old faces in greensonscreen, but somehow seeing Lee Jameson grinning like a complete fucktard again wouldn't grate as much as it does at the moment.'

Oh yes it would !

What people fail to appreciate is that the subversive, self promoting activities of these bullies in the Pasoti modroom, has almost certainly contributed to the club's demise under Stapleton, prolonged the misery under Ridsdale and now landed us with their asset stripping , non investing, clueless manager appointing, silly hat awarding, James Speccy Banker Brent.

Some of us have been trying to expose these people for years . At last, others can now see why.


Ok so some people wouldn't want these things forgotten about, but my point is that the majority of the fanbase, or even just the majority of the online forums fanbase wouldn't care so much about these things if the club were doing well.

As we're in the lower regions of Division 4 still then it makes more people want a change. If under Brent we got promoted this year and won the JPT at Wembley, I don't think quite so many people would care about the online bickering. Ok so I don't actually think it possible under Brent and Fletcher, but if a new manager was brought in tomorrow and Brent invested a substantial amount of money then I think more people would lay off him and see where it goes.

If we're still in this league in say 2 years time then I reckon the falling out will get worse, simply because the majority of fans aren't still glad to just have a club to support. There comes a time when the masses will say Ok thanks for buying the club Mr Brent but when are we going to move on?

If we stagnate in this league, or God forbid get relegated then many more people are going to be looking at Mr Brent's other interests and start wondering why some of his fortune being made out of buying the club isn't being invested in making the club successful again like he promised.

Just another two years it is then.

I don't want to wait two years Tring. I think we should be up with the leaders now, with dross like Chadwick, Feeney and Williams put out to grass long ago. The fact that Fletcher doesn't know his ass from his elbow is solely Brents fault.

There seem to be too many fans willing to hold off of criticising fletcher yet, as they buy into this slow progress bullshit. Redundancies due to crowds being lower than expected is also a pile of crap, but there are enough sue pollards and Zeezans willing to do these little jobs for the club free of charge.

What I mean is that if it does take two years from now to be really challenging, then the argumente and dirty tricks will only get worse and more personal.

If one ex mod on Pasoti decides to blow the whistle on what has gone on behind the scenes then there will be a shitstorm that will provide plenty of onlookers the arguments they crave.


Do you really think that the fans and readers of the farm don't know what goes on, you do them a dis service,they are not stupid they just can't be bothered with it, I have several mates who laugh at it all, but non of them get involved, they piss themselves at how wound up about I get.
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Are these the same people who trusted in stapes and will swallow any self promoting activity thrown at them and all in the name of being 'green' ?

Pasoti has been controlled for self serving purposes for years. It is corrupt to the core.

Anyone who believes otherwise, or simply doesn't care, is a sheep. baaaaaaaaaaaa !

Napoleon has driven so many from his farm, that largely only the sheep remain............. and a few dogs n pussies.

He who 'bleeds green' has contributed towards the dire state the club is in. Unwavering support for fine gentlemen in suits, whilst driving away independent thinkers.

He has got what he wanted all along.

PAFC Run by idiots, for idiots.

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Believe it or not Tring a lot of my mates don't have time for it all, dis illusioned yes, idiots definitely not, your statement on the other hand is idiotic in the extreme. If everybody was sitting on a beach in Cyprus preening their self righteousness we wouldn't have a club at all, sadly I think that really would make you happy.
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PostSubject: Re: The great Pasoti clean-up begins.   The great Pasoti clean-up begins. - Page 8 EmptyTue Nov 13, 2012 4:24 pm

Iggy wrote:
Believe it or not Tring a lot of my mates don't have time for it all, dis illusioned yes, idiots definitely not, your statement on the other hand is idiotic in the extreme. If everybody was sitting on a beach in Cyprus preening their self righteousness we wouldn't have a club at all, sadly I think that really would make you happy.

There is something in the water. Rolling Eyes

Anyone who has witnessed the events of the last 5 years and is merely disillusioned, is part of the problem.

PAFC and acceptance of parochial mediocrity, a speciality. ' Enjoy the ride Tringy !' No

The lunatics have taken over the asylum and your mates are only disillusioned ? What a Face

Did you put in a word for me on Napoleon's farm ? They really ought to start listening.

Chancellor, from the farm, is a little more clued up but I'd argue that the superfan nonsense and stifling of criticism goes back far longer than 18 months.

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You know, all these problems started with the advent of the so called "superfan".

For me there is only one answer and that is for all those who have manoeuvred themselves into positions within the club and tried to present themselves as "representatives" to return from whence they came.

Lets go back to the appointed board running the business without outside interference, no more Presidents, Associate Directors, Supporters Boards and Trusts. Get it back to where it should be, the directors directing, the management managing, the players playing, and the supporters supporting.

The supporters will never always agree with each other and that is healthy to have reasoned and educated debate, something that has disappeared from Pasoti in the last 12-18 months. The constant mud slinging, allegations, rumours and damn right underhandedness of recent history is depressing in the extreme.

Personally I would like to see all the hangers on resign their positions for the good of the club, but sadly I dont think it will happen.

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It's a good job Pasoti changed the rules on right of reply and naming people not registered.

Just in time it seems, for someone to drop a toxic hot potato and then ask to be deactivated.

I'm such a cynic.
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SirCumfrance wrote:
It's a good job Pasoti changed the rules on right of reply and naming people not registered.

Just in time it seems, for someone to drop a toxic hot potato and then ask to be deactivated.

I'm such a cynic.

and then become a rep for one of the PASB positions that are still up for grabs.

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SirCumfrance wrote:
It's a good job Pasoti changed the rules on right of reply and naming people not registered.

Just in time it seems, for someone to drop a toxic hot potato and then ask to be deactivated.

I'm such a cynic.

Who are we assuming the person who was de-activated is? (I'm not up to speed on all this yet)
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We need Damon back to name names and shoot from the hip.

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Tring dear, not everybody joins pasoti you know, they have probably never even heard of you.
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I'm shocked.......

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Czarcasm wrote:
SirCumfrance wrote:
It's a good job Pasoti changed the rules on right of reply and naming people not registered.

Just in time it seems, for someone to drop a toxic hot potato and then ask to be deactivated.

I'm such a cynic.

Who are we assuming the person who was de-activated is? (I'm not up to speed on all this yet)

I'm assuming its Rappers.
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Chemical Ali wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
SirCumfrance wrote:
It's a good job Pasoti changed the rules on right of reply and naming people not registered.

Just in time it seems, for someone to drop a toxic hot potato and then ask to be deactivated.

I'm such a cynic.

Who are we assuming the person who was de-activated is? (I'm not up to speed on all this yet)

I'm assuming its Rappers.

Not me, I'm still posting, if I have been no ones told me!
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Iggy wrote:
Tring dear, not everybody joins pasoti you know, they have probably never even heard of you.

Your disillusioned friends will not, of course. They were probably too busy enjoying the ride and if on Pasoti, had total trust in Napoleon, his fellow pigs and the dogs [I mean poodles], of course.

The self promoting, blinkered hierarchy, is all too aware that they've been rumbled............at last.

What has taken everyone so long, yourself included ?







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I think Iggy is a hero
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Every single person on here who has a vendetta* wants it to be Ian Newell. Tring believes any one who posts on pasoti is a 'pig' as he's clearly mad and believes pasoti to be 'one voice'; life isn't quite as simple as that but he seems to believe that life is really that simple. He's a peculiar individual who doesn't seem to add anything to any thread of any merit at all and posts exactly the same thing like some kind of stuck video tape that plays on a one minute loop.

It seems weird of Mr Rapson to post the thread and then back-track and want it stopped but why post it in the first place Rapson? Is it to undermine the current moderators or is it to undermine the ex-moderators?

ZeeZog or whatever she's called comes in with her usual "I heard this too" post whenever anything controversial arises as if to support Rapson; I find that pretty weird.

So who's at the bottom of this murky pit? Is it the evil Ian Newell, arch-nemesis of Tring? Is it PL2, the enemy of Jock?

I don't give a rats chuff as I don't really understand what the issue is, why it's an issue or why we're even bothering.



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I think Iggy is a hero

Kerching !
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hairy j wrote:
Every single person on here who has a vendetta* wants it to be Ian Newell. Tring believes any one who posts on pasoti is a 'pig' as he's clearly mad and believes pasoti to be 'one voice'; life isn't quite as simple as that but he seems to believe that life is really that simple. He's a peculiar individual who doesn't seem to add anything to any thread of any merit at all and posts exactly the same thing like some kind of stuck video tape that plays on a one minute loop.

It seems weird of Mr Rapson to post the thread and then back-track and want it stopped but why post it in the first place Rapson? Is it to undermine the current moderators or is it to undermine the ex-moderators?

ZeeZog or whatever she's called comes in with her usual "I heard this too" post whenever anything controversial arises as if to support Rapson; I find that pretty weird.

So who's at the bottom of this murky pit? Is it the evil Ian Newell, arch-nemesis of Tring? Is it PL2, the enemy of Jock?

I don't give a rats chuff as I don't really understand what the issue is, why it's an issue or why we're even bothering.



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Dougie wrote:
I think Iggy is a hero

Kerching !

Dougie was being very sarcastic. Kerching is not a sound I'd associate with your brain greengenes.
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hairy j wrote:
greengenes wrote:
Dougie wrote:
I think Iggy is a hero

Kerching !

Dougie was being very sarcastic. Kerching is not a sound I'd associate with your brain greengenes.

I agree . But then again I may not . I'm easily swayed .
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hairy j wrote:
greengenes wrote:
Dougie wrote:
I think Iggy is a hero

Kerching !

Dougie was being very sarcastic. Kerching is not a sound I'd associate with your brain greengenes.

I agree . But then again I may not . I'm easily swayed .
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