Luke McCormick

Angry wrote:

I outright refuse to chant his name or sing super luke.

I also. It's just crass. Whilst what Damon says a new slant on the incident it's PR disaster home coming back here. Why do it ffs

All the Presidents Men wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

All the Presidents Men wrote:

Damon.Lenszner wrote:

As a Dad I could never condone Luke's actions - in 36 years motoring have I done it....yes I have. But I know Luke, I know what this episode has done to him. I know how he regrets it and will always regret it. Would it have been the same outcome if the boys had seat belts on? Would it have been the same outcome if the other driver didn't have alcohol in his blood? Maybe, but I don't think anyone can either doubt that or accept a more lenient custodial sentence because of that.

Lots of innuendo here, any links please???

There's never been a public release of the full facts from the court case.

But I imagine Damon of all people would know the true facts seeing as I imagine he was a personal friend of Luke's from the time they shared at the club.

Aaaah i see, just an ugly rumour then, do people really believe that a dad would drive on the motorway on a big day (with his kids friends!) out with alcohol in his bloodstream as has been rumoured, i really do not think so, anymore than the police or courts hushing it up!

It really pisses me off, this story, probably just doing the rounds of chinese whispers in Plymouth!

For me, he never apologised publicly or treated the other family with dignity thoughout all of this!

But as Damon knows Luke so well, he'll also know he was acting like an arrogant billy big boots in jail then too!

care to elaborate on that all the presidents men?

ATPM - believe The Sun...it's a newspaper, what they print must be the truth.

In reply to Angry
LM did apologize to the family when he was allowed to, any disrespect on his part was generated by the Sun who seemed to make it their mission to follow him round and blow up any thing he did out of all proportion, the location and length of his sentence was nothing that anyone else would have received and his behavior in prison could not have been better. If you are going to write in public you are entitled to your opinion but get your facts right.

Ok Mr McCormick!

He's still a cnut who killed 2 young children and ruined a family, but if he's apologised it's ok  

In such a rush to get our bad language online we screwed the spelling up but I guess it was a good effort for a jock, try staying with three letter words for now

As a parent I don't think I could either forgive or forget if it had happened to my family. But, I've come around to thinking that it is done as far as the rest of the world is concerned. He has done his time whether you think it was long enough or not and the Law has run it's course. Nobody can change that and unless you advocate he sits in a darkened room for the rest of his life doing nothing then it has to be accepted he gets on with it. I whinced at him being signed by us and I'm still not sure it was a good move but that's done as well so it is too late to alter anything. For me now I'm just going to accept he is here and is our player and live with it.

baffled54 wrote:

In such a rush to get our bad language online we screwed the spelling up but I guess it was a good effort for a jock, try staying with three letter words for now

As I'm not a close friend like you obviously are I wouldn't know the correct spelling, so to make it easier from now on I'll just call him killer.

It's a subject close to your heart baffled, that was your 3rd post on here in 8 or 9 months since you signed up and they're all about killer, something you want to share with us? If it's a pardon you're looking for then I suggest you try the Home Secretary.

I'm struggling for three letter words to be honest, DUI is kind of a word, drunk under influence, as is HMP, RIP and tit.

This for now will have to be my last post today as I have a life and things to do as opposed to someone who makes 8,831 posts in 18 months but full marks for an intelligent comment, you see you can do it when you try. I am not a friend, I am family, if LM could go back and change what happened that day he would but he cannot so he has served his time and all he can do now is get on with his life as best as he can as much as that will annoy people like you.
p.s there are only black bears in North Carolina and Bigfoot sightings are in the northwest part of the country, not on the east coast.

baffled54 wrote:

This for now will have to be my last post today as I have a life and things to do as opposed to someone who makes 8,831 posts in 18 months but full marks for an intelligent comment, you see you can do it when you try. I am not a friend, I am family, if LM could go back and change what happened that day he would but he cannot so he has served his time and all he can do now is get on with his life as best as he can as much as that will annoy people like you.
p.s there are only black bears in North Carolina and Bigfoot sightings are in the northwest part of the country, not on the east coast.

No there are bigfoot sightings all over North America, believe me I have watched every video, read every blog and even listened to unidentified growls that could be anything but according to the experts are definitely 7ft tall hominids  

So as a family member did you sign up here just to lobby for Killer? If so have you also had your twopenneth worth on Pasoti? I advise you to contact Pasoti, ask for Postey and tell him that he should be spreading the word that Killer is actually a really decent guy who is ok now because he's said sorry. They'll open a section up just for you, especially if you can get hold of some signed shirts that can be raffled off to raise funds for James Brent's debts.

Meanwhile I'm just off to e-mail Keith Bennetts family to tell them that Ian Brady isn't as bad as he's made out to be and he says sorry.

You see to myself and a lot of others we also don't want to be reminded constantly about two you lads being killed needlessly by a drunk driver, as well as their father being horrendously injured, which is sort of the case now that Killer is back at Argyle. I just wish he'd fecked off to any other club frankly, coming back to Argyle is a piss-take and I hope it goes badly wrong for him and he fucks off as soon as possible.

Nice chatting Luke.

@greenjock

Why the animosity towards the previous poster ?? McCormick made a massive error and no one knows it better than him but he's not a killer.
And there but for the Grace of God go a lot of us who have driven whilst in drink. Nobody is condoning Lukes actions.
It is an excellent signing make no mistake with a good 5-6 years in him. Likewise remember the old saying All publicity is good publicity

Frankie_Fredericks wrote:

@greenjock

Why the animosity towards the previous poster ??  McCormick made a massive error and no one knows it better than him but he's not a killer.
And there but for the Grace of God go a lot of us who have driven whilst in drink. Nobody is condoning Lukes actions.
It is an excellent signing make no mistake with a good 5-6 years in him. Likewise remember the old saying All publicity is good publicity

"Super Luke's" supposed family member likes to post on here about how sorry the killer is and how he should be left alone, as well as having a pop at my spelling when I actually spelt his name correctly, which tells me that Baffled is actually just a prick looking to cause trouble.

I don't want the cnut anywhere near Home Park in all honesty and I hope it goes really badly for him at Argyle and he disappears out of the public glare.

Other than that I'm all for him!

Normally Jock I'm in your camp. In this instance I'm aware of people close to Luke who've confirmed that since day one after the accident he's lived with what he's done and not a day goes by when he doesn't reflect that his stupid act killed children. If justice is about changing behaviour then it's served its purpose.

Would I sing his name? No, that's too close to the knuckle. Do I think he's allowed to ply his trade again, yes.

A lot of people who know Luke, people like Damon on here, can vouch for him and how he has been since it happened.

Damon also knows the true facts of the case.

He isn't a cold blooded child killer, he made a completely feckin stupid mistake but it was just a mistake. He didn't get in that car and set out to kill two kids.

How many other people in this country speed, drink the morning after and get away with it?

Greenjock wrote:

Meanwhile I'm just off to e-mail Keith Bennetts family to tell them that Ian Brady isn't as bad as he's made out to be and he says sorry.

Oh dear.

I don't get this "there but for the grace of god" bit. Just because loads of other people are as stupid as he was is no excuse or mitigation. Anyone who drives or indeed doesn't drive knows that it is firstly illegal and secondly grossly stupid to drink and drive and there is no getting away from that fact. The other fact is that because of his action 2 boys lost their chance to have a life. I'm sure he does regret it. If he hadn't killed anyone would he feel the same about being so stupid. Doubt it he would just think he was lucky to get away with it for the drink driving then at some point do it again. I've said above he has served a punishment as the Law demanded so he should be allowed to get on with it but please don't use the fact that others do the same thing as an out for his actions.

That's my viewpoint and I don't think a supposed family member who can't spell his name is posting on here for any reason other than causing trouble.

Like I said to baffled, go try telling Pasoti how sorry Luke is and how he's such a nice guy.

Oh and I've never driven drunk or the next morning after a heavy session so I can't relate to that either.

I bet you've driven 'stoned' though, Jock?

I've yet to hear about a killer who isn't sorry and hasn't been a model prisoner when they want parole or to be accepted back into society. He was hardly likely to be shouting his mouth off saying he was glad it happened was he?


I just don't believe all this repenting bullshit and wish we weren't even discussing it because he's back playing for us. Hopefully Jake Cole is far better and LM is shunted off to obscurity elsewhere.

On the basis of play the ball, not the man .... it may be that the law is wrong. It may be that he should have received a longer sentence. It may be that he should have served his full sentence. Whatever your view, that's how the law works and that bit isn't Luke's fault. Kick the law not Luke. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the sentence, my view is that he didn't set out to kill someone. He wasn't a murderer. He was an idiot who made a stupid mistake, by all accounts.

I've never driven full stop Rickler. The mere thought of being in control of something like a car fills me with dread. And I would never have contemplated driving stoned or hungover if I had somehow plucked up the courage to pass my test because I would be shit scared of being responsible for something that lethal.

I apologise.

"He was an idiot who made a stupid mistake". Knecht I doubt you mean it that way but that again sounds like mitigation in the same vein as "there but for the grace.....". There simply isn't any mitigation because he knew full well what the law is and he chose to break it. Nobody forced him to drive except himself knowing he was wrong.

The trouble is that because of the outcome he cannot make amends no matter how much he regrets it. I'm sure he is a nice enough bloke and I'm sure he is more sorry for the deaths, not getting caught, than we could ever realise. It changes nothing and never will for him or the family. I've never seen the point in the sentencing rules. If something warrants 5 years then it should mean 5 years whether they are good or not. What's the point of 5 years if it means 3. I guess it's because the prisons would be overflowing and it comes down to money to keep these people in there.

They are paid to much and the arrogance is there for all to see
It was a mistake but one that was caused by his selfish actions at the time
In my opinion it would of been better if he played elsewhere