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Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

My Tranmere mate reckons Manny is a good player. Sorry to see him go. Apparent;y near;ly signed for Pompey last year.

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

But the players being let go will be those of least value. Clubs will get their better players onto longer Contracts so they command a fee when they move on. As Argyle have done with Jephcott.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

1 cap for Wales hardly makes him a full international in the way your describing if anything we could class Mickey Evans as one for making a cameo appearance for Ireland.

Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ? it matters not who wins that debate if the new three dont have what they one of the triats they seriously lacked, pace nothing much is changing.

Angry wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

1 cap for Wales hardly makes him a full international in the way your describing if anything we could class Mickey Evans as one for making a cameo appearance for Ireland.

Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ? it matters not who wins that debate if the new three dont have what they one of the triats they seriously lacked, pace nothing much is changing.

And if they do most of us will be happy, best wait and see how they pan out cos like it or not they’re here, well most of them are and perhaps we should give them that support before we machine gun them.

Graiser wrote:

Angry wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

1 cap for Wales hardly makes him a full international in the way your describing if anything we could class Mickey Evans as one for making a cameo appearance for Ireland.

Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ? it matters not who wins that debate if the new three dont have what they one of the triats they seriously lacked, pace nothing much is changing.

And if they do most of us will be happy, best wait and see how they pan out cos like it or not they’re here, well  most of them are and perhaps we should give them that support before we machine gun them.

I don't see anyone wanting to gut them like a fish on here for signing before they kicked a ball. Only some questioning why the budget has us looking in league 2 and teams that struggled in that league at that last season for their defenders when our defence isn't in a position to be giving a go too players in the hope they come good.
We could get away with that one time not the majority of the players, That theory failed last season with the 3 kids we brought in from premiership clubs.

Dan Scarr i don't rate that highly but i will give him a chance none the less as most will too same with the other defender and if that Tranmere guy comes even though i don't recall questioning their signings. There will be another defender signed regardless if this Tranmere guy comes so who the 4th guy will be will be interesting.

If these guys dont have a bit of pace about them we are just as fecked as last season as pace undid us so many times along with other factors.

Former Portsmouth target reveals he's now a free agent amid search for centre-back

The 26-year-old has previously been on Pompey’s radar.

The Blues were interested in Monthe during the January transfer window in the 2019-20 season when they wanted a left-footed centre-half.

A move did not materialise, though, as Tranmere slapped a valuation in the region of £750,000 price tag on him

Graiser wrote:

Angry wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

1 cap for Wales hardly makes him a full international in the way your describing if anything we could class Mickey Evans as one for making a cameo appearance for Ireland.

Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ? it matters not who wins that debate if the new three dont have what they one of the triats they seriously lacked, pace nothing much is changing.

And if they do most of us will be happy, best wait and see how they pan out cos like it or not they’re here, well  most of them are and perhaps we should give them that support before we machine gun them.

No one has poured crap on anybody and no one has their machine gun out, try reading the thread again. As you say we will know when the season starts yet last year "we" were right about the defence and you were quite clearly wrong.

[quote="Earwegoagain"]

Graiser wrote:

Angry wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

1 cap for Wales hardly makes him a full international in the way your describing if anything we could class Mickey Evans as one for making a cameo appearance for Ireland.

Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ? it matters not who wins that debate if the new three dont have what they one of the triats they seriously lacked, pace nothing much is changing.

And if they do most of us will be happy, best wait and see how they pan out cos like it or not they’re here, well  most of them are and perhaps we should give them that support before we machine gun them.

No one has poured crap on anybody and no one has their machine gun out, try reading the thread again. As you say we will know when the season starts yet last year "we" were right about the defence and you were quite clearly wrong.[/quote

So as according to you I’m quite clearly wrong, what’s your knowledge on these players that I assume makes you clearly right ?

Tgwu wrote:

Former Portsmouth target reveals he's now a free agent amid search for centre-back

The 26-year-old has previously been on Pompey’s radar.

The Blues were interested in Monthe during the January transfer window in the 2019-20 season when they wanted a left-footed centre-half.

A move did not materialise, though, as Tranmere slapped a valuation in the region of £750,000 price tag on him

I find that hard to believe! Knowing he was running his contract down, Rovers would have taken any reasonable offer rather than have him walk away for nothing in a few months

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Angry wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

There are more players from all leagues being released for financial reasons rather than lack of ability this close season, but also nearly all clubs will also be operating under financial constraints resulting from last season and the Covid unpredictability for next season.
To note Argyle’s insurance cover did not cover all the financial implications of last season

I don't think anybody is suggesting that it did what was said was that because of the insurance we weren't affected worse than anybody else and in context we would have had the £2m which is about our playing budget for a season plus season ticket and Ifollow money whilst some operating costs would have been reduced due to furlough and not employing match day staff. I don't see there is much of an excuse to be shopping in league 2.

It doesn’t matter a bag of beans what league they come from if they’re good enough and that’s what none of us know, I prefer to wait until I see how they perform before pouring crap on them.

I'm not pouring crap on anyone just pointing out that the excuse we can only afford lge 2 isn't valid.

All 3 of those players have played L1, ones a full international so plenty of experience which I thought was what we were after, anyway who says we can only afford L2 ?
I couldn’t give a flying one what league they’ve played in, the proof will be seen in a few months time when we get the chance to see them play and perhaps then we can give a more valid opinion.
Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ?

1 cap for Wales hardly makes him a full international in the way your describing if anything we could class Mickey Evans as one for making a cameo appearance for Ireland.

Opoku, Watts and Aimson or Wilson, Scarr and maybe Monthe ? it matters not who wins that debate if the new three dont have what they one of the triats they seriously lacked, pace nothing much is changing.

And if they do most of us will be happy, best wait and see how they pan out cos like it or not they’re here, well  most of them are and perhaps we should give them that support before we machine gun them.

No one has pouredcrap on anybody and no one has their machine gun out, try reading the thread again. As you say we will know when the season starts yet last year "we" were right about the defence and you were quite clearly wrong.[/quote

So as according to you I’m quite clearly wrong, what’s your knowledge on these players that I assume makes you clearly right ?

Read the thread I haven't scorned the players in question at all I've merely pointed out that I don't find it very inspiring us shopping in Lge. 2. As for last year read what I said about the squad ie Mayor, Grant and Hardie were all decent players but the defence would cost us and it did whilst you said you'd trust in Lowe.

Grovehill wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Former Portsmouth target reveals he's now a free agent amid search for centre-back

The 26-year-old has previously been on Pompey’s radar.

The Blues were interested in Monthe during the January transfer window in the 2019-20 season when they wanted a left-footed centre-half.

A move did not materialise, though, as Tranmere slapped a valuation in the region of £750,000 price tag on him

I find that hard to believe! Knowing he was running his contract down, Rovers would have taken any reasonable offer rather than have him walk away for nothing in a few months

not hard to believe it was the done thing here under the reluctant one. How many key players left us for nothing that we could have gotten something from them had we started contract talks earlier than May and sold him in January?

Grovehill wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Former Portsmouth target reveals he's now a free agent amid search for centre-back

The 26-year-old has previously been on Pompey’s radar.

The Blues were interested in Monthe during the January transfer window in the 2019-20 season when they wanted a left-footed centre-half.

A move did not materialise, though, as Tranmere slapped a valuation in the region of £750,000 price tag on him

I find that hard to believe! Knowing he was running his contract down, Rovers would have taken any reasonable offer rather than have him walk away for nothing in a few months

Leyton Orient could be a possibility, London roots.. ..Kenny Jackett is their new boss and when Jackett was at Pompey he was interested in him.

72 hours are up fwiw

turns out this Monthe player has just signed for Walsall.....



Lets see who Ryan has lined up next now this target has failed to materialize despite him being sure within 72hrs it would be.

Lowe tries to sign a L2 standard player and we lose out to a L2 club.  Maybe you need to aim lower than that Lowe.  National League North/South is perhaps where you should be shopping.

L2/L1 YO YO is best we can hope for under Hallett

Freathy wrote:

Lowe tries to sign a L2 standard player and we lose out to a L2 club.  Maybe you need to aim lower than that Lowe.  National League North/South is perhaps where you should be shopping.

L2/L1 YO YO is best we can hope for under Hallett

seeing as ryan mentioned he was confident of concluding the deal within 72 hours i can only assume walsall came out of nowhere and trumped our offer which again raises questions as to what our budget was if a mid table league 2 club can be seen as a better option than league one club. I refuse to believe the old lie that no one wants to come to Plymouth due to its location.

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Lowe tries to sign a L2 standard player and we lose out to a L2 club.  Maybe you need to aim lower than that Lowe.  National League North/South is perhaps where you should be shopping.

L2/L1 YO YO is best we can hope for under Hallett

seeing as ryan mentioned he was confident of concluding the deal within 72 hours i can only assume walsall came out of nowhere and trumped our offer which again raises questions as to what our budget was if a mid table league 2 club can be seen as a better option than league one club. I refuse to believe the old lie that no one wants to come to Plymouth due to its location.

Lowe actually named the player?

Who says we have been trying to sign Monthe? The sages on Pasoti?

Rickler wrote:

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Lowe tries to sign a L2 standard player and we lose out to a L2 club.  Maybe you need to aim lower than that Lowe.  National League North/South is perhaps where you should be shopping.

L2/L1 YO YO is best we can hope for under Hallett

seeing as ryan mentioned he was confident of concluding the deal within 72 hours i can only assume walsall came out of nowhere and trumped our offer which again raises questions as to what our budget was if a mid table league 2 club can be seen as a better option than league one club. I refuse to believe the old lie that no one wants to come to Plymouth due to its location.

Lowe actually named the player?

Who says we have been trying to sign Monthe?  The sages on Pasoti?

i imagine pasoti did run with that story however i don't go on there so wouldn't know. Enough people who broke the scarr story mentioned it elsewhere so i believe the story had legs and truth.

where is the defender he said was confident of signing within 72 hours if not him. Doesn't take Columbo to work out Ryan was in for Manny and was sniped at the 11th hour. Manny left tranmere around the time Ryan mentioned another coming in within 72hrs so more clues linking him here andd for whatever reason he choose walsall..

No manager who has an ounce of decorum would mention a a player by name to the press if they are involved in transfer dealings for a number of reasons so him not mentioning manny's name is a redundant statement.

So basically it's all a unsubstantiated rumour based on timing...

and wasn't the Scarr story broken by someone in the media and then picked up by the those on freechat and Pasoti who live for this sort of thing?

Rickler wrote:

So basically it's all a unsubstantiated rumour based on timing...

and wasn't the Scarr story broken by someone in the media and then picked up by the those on freechat and Pasoti who live for this sort of thing?

no i would say it had merit, the timing was spot on and for whatever reason the deal didn't come good which im sure isnt the first time thats happend or indeed the last time.
Again where is this defender poised to sign in 72 hours? its gone very quiet since Manny made his choice to go walsall. Of course Ryan willprobably deny he was interested in him to save face but too much coincidence here too much to ignore or shake off blaming pasoti.

Angry wrote:

Rickler wrote:

So basically it's all a unsubstantiated rumour based on timing...

and wasn't the Scarr story broken by someone in the media and then picked up by the those on freechat and Pasoti who live for this sort of thing?

no i would say it had merit, the timing was spot on and for whatever reason the deal didn't come good which im sure isnt the first time thats happend or indeed the last time.
Again where is this defender poised to sign in 72 hours? its gone very quiet since Manny made his choice to go walsall. Of course Ryan willprobably deny he was interested in him to save face but too much coincidence here too much to ignore or shake off blaming pasoti.

I suppose it suits some to believe the negativity that seems to swirl around, can’t help it my glass is always half full, roll on next season when we can actually see these new players in action so we can have a right old ding dong based on fact.