PORTSMOUTH v PLYMOUTH ARGYLE (matchday)

Argo desperately hanging on for the point.

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these. Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Still a good result

Argyle pissed on Freathy's fireworks yet again!

Well done the Greens!

i would have taken a point at the start of this but the fact YET AGAIN our defence let us down when it matters and we threw away a 2-0 lead which maybe flattered us is shocking. Kelland watts needs reprimanding for the first pompey goal as what was he thinking trying to shield a ball that wasnt going out and he knew curtis was coming up fast who knicked it from his blindside and scored his goal. The second was pretty much the same dithering trying to see the ball over the line and getting the ball nicked off them instead costing us a goal.

we were lucky to leave with a point when we should have left with 3. ryan got it wrong with taking off jephcott and bringing on woods when it threw that defence off. Bringing on Ennis worked a treat as his pace on the break was crucial to breaking them down Lewis's clearance at the end of the game that gave portsmouth a corner needs to be seen to be believed.

Overall a point away against a promotion chasing side is not a bad result but this really should have been 3 a server lack of composure at the back when the formation changed gave pompey the point.

onwards to accrington.

Feels like a defeat tbh atm

Freathy wrote:

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these.  Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Usually I don’t bother responding to your posts cos most are bollox, but your Lowe out agenda just about sums you up, no manager/coach can legislate for what Watts did, if you can’t see that then I feel sad for you.

Disappointing result in the context of the Argo performance, Lowe will not be happy, with not seeing the game out.

Les Miserable wrote:

Feels like a defeat tbh atm

Agreed again. Best and worst of Argyle right there. Much, much, much improved second half and worked our way into a deserved two goal lead. Jeppers proper poacher, Enniss made a difference lovely skill to set up for the first goal and then involved in the second. Thought Fornah was a bit wobbly at times and Watts FFS! I generally like him but fook me what a time to let your attention drift. The minute we thought that we'd protect our lead it all went to shit and damned quick. Away point at Fratton Park is a result but that felt like a kick in the guts at the end.

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these.  Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Usually I don’t bother responding to your posts cos most are bollox, but your Lowe out agenda just about sums you up, no manager/coach can legislate for what Watts did, if you can’t see that then I feel sad for you.

Why not?

All  the manager has to do is tell the defenders not to take risks. Jack Charlton used to tell his defenders "You can't play, don't try too"

Lowe wants to remember he hasn't got Hansen Lawrenson and Phil Thompson at the back. He's got three third division defenders and he needs to stop all this crap about "playing out from the back" until he has the players with the ability to do so.

You really need to get over your lowe hang up Grovey.

Grovehill wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these.  Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Usually I don’t bother responding to your posts cos most are bollox, but your Lowe out agenda just about sums you up, no manager/coach can legislate for what Watts did, if you can’t see that then I feel sad for you.

Why not?

All  the manager has to do is tell the defenders not to take risks. Jack Charlton used to tell his defenders "You can't play, don't try too"

Lowe wants to remember he hasn't got Hansen Lawrenson and Phil Thompson at the back. He's got three third division defenders and he needs to stop all this crap about "playing out from the back" until he has the players with the ability to do so.

i tend to agree. Ryan is going to have to find a whole crop of defenders for next season who can play out of the back cause at the moment he hasn't got them.

(given 3 loanees go back, aimson is out of contract atm and Sawyer hopefully retires)

A kick where it hurts most.The ambition to play out from the back is a very laudable one and indeed has served Argyle well at times this season- it would be a massiven overreaction to suggest complete abandonment. There is a time and a place though and protecting a 2-0 lead at Fratton park is not the place for a mazy dribble on your own byline,hopefully it will be marked down as experience for the future.The second wasn't too clever either,three men converging on a single Argyle defender-looked as if someone had omitted to carry out their marking duties,not very professional and not the way that teams challenge for promotion. Jephcott is a real Tynanesque,right place at the right time type and must have been thoroughly pissed off after doing his job so well to see two points thrown away in that manner. Strange that a 2-2 draw at Pompey should provoke such negative feelings but scorelines sometimes don't tell the whole story and this is definitely one of them.

Very good away point but a win thrown away.

Still adding the points mean it’s one more away from relegation.

That Ennis should be starting as he's explosively quick
Lowe will learn from those defensive mistakes. Get three quality defenders in during the close season whilst retaining the rest and we'll be top 5 next season

harvetheslayer wrote:

That Ennis should be starting as he's explosively quick
Lowe will learn from those defensive mistakes. Get three quality defenders in during the close season whilst retaining the rest and we'll be top 5 next season

We live in hope although Sawyer has already survived about five windows where he should have been binned and the in the summer everybody was expecting a defender cull which didn't happen.

harvetheslayer wrote:

That Ennis should be starting as he's explosively quick
Lowe will learn from those defensive mistakes. Get three quality defenders in during the close season whilst retaining the rest and we'll be top 5 next season

Ennis coming on when he does is working a treat at the moment. Thats what you want from your subs bench players you can bring on to change a game and he is doing that up front.

Grovehill wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these.  Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Usually I don’t bother responding to your posts cos most are bollox, but your Lowe out agenda just about sums you up, no manager/coach can legislate for what Watts did, if you can’t see that then I feel sad for you.

Why not?

All  the manager has to do is tell the defenders not to take risks. Jack Charlton used to tell his defenders "You can't play, don't try too"

Lowe wants to remember he hasn't got Hansen Lawrenson and Phil Thompson at the back. He's got three third division defenders and he needs to stop all this crap about "playing out from the back" until he has the players with the ability to do so.

Jack Charlton was in an era when pub football was the norm, times move on and so does football, I’d rather see RL’s brand of football than Adam’s for instance.
Do you think that RL has told his defenders to frig around like Watts did for their first goal ? No of course he didn’t.
With your anti Lowe agenda it’s quite easy, especially with hindsight to pick out all the negatives, that’s easy, but while I’m gutted at what happened in the last 8 minutes, I prefer to look at the previous 82 minutes where we took it to them big style.
Lowes a rookie manager and he’ll make mistakes, he has made mistakes and he’ll probably make a few more but I prefer to take an overall view of what’s happening at the club and on the pitch which I can only see positives.
Before it’s mentioned my glasses aren’t green tinted!

All I would change with the setup at Argyle is to bring in a specialist defensive coach, because it clearly isn’t a strength of Lowe, Schumacher, or the dairy farmer.

Nigel Pearson was doing a big talk up on Ryan Lowe this morning on The Football League Show.

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these.  Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Usually I don’t bother responding to your posts cos most are bollox, but your Lowe out agenda just about sums you up, no manager/coach can legislate for what Watts did, if you can’t see that then I feel sad for you.

Why not?

All  the manager has to do is tell the defenders not to take risks. Jack Charlton used to tell his defenders "You can't play, don't try too"

Lowe wants to remember he hasn't got Hansen Lawrenson and Phil Thompson at the back. He's got three third division defenders and he needs to stop all this crap about "playing out from the back" until he has the players with the ability to do so.

Jack Charlton was in an era when pub football was the norm, times move on and so does football, I’d rather see RL’s brand of football than Adam’s for instance.
Do you think that RL has told his defenders to frig around like Watts did for their first goal ? No of course he didn’t.
With your anti Lowe agenda it’s quite easy, especially with hindsight to pick out all the negatives, that’s easy, but while I’m gutted at what happened in the last 8 minutes, I prefer to look at the previous 82 minutes where we took it to them big style.
Lowes a rookie manager and he’ll make mistakes, he has made mistakes and he’ll probably make a few more but I prefer to take an overall view of what’s happening at the club and on the pitch which I can only see positives.
Before it’s mentioned my glasses aren’t green tinted!

Why is it that anyone who points out deficiencies in the team or Management "has an agenda"? I can see than Harry Maguire isn't the most mobile defender in the Country and that Spurs rely too much on Harry Kane, does that mean I "have an agenda" against Mourinho or OGS?

Or do you think everyone should just be mindless cheerleaders for all that Hallett and Lowe does?

I have opinions and I'm not going to keep them to myself just because you have a different view.

BTW, my first post on this thread was that it was a good result

Grovehill wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Thought Pompey would have absolutely walloped us so a point is a good result against these.  Lowe's fault it wasn't 3 points though.

Usually I don’t bother responding to your posts cos most are bollox, but your Lowe out agenda just about sums you up, no manager/coach can legislate for what Watts did, if you can’t see that then I feel sad for you.

Why not?

All  the manager has to do is tell the defenders not to take risks. Jack Charlton used to tell his defenders "You can't play, don't try too"

Lowe wants to remember he hasn't got Hansen Lawrenson and Phil Thompson at the back. He's got three third division defenders and he needs to stop all this crap about "playing out from the back" until he has the players with the ability to do so.

Jack Charlton was in an era when pub football was the norm, times move on and so does football, I’d rather see RL’s brand of football than Adam’s for instance.
Do you think that RL has told his defenders to frig around like Watts did for their first goal ? No of course he didn’t.
With your anti Lowe agenda it’s quite easy, especially with hindsight to pick out all the negatives, that’s easy, but while I’m gutted at what happened in the last 8 minutes, I prefer to look at the previous 82 minutes where we took it to them big style.
Lowes a rookie manager and he’ll make mistakes, he has made mistakes and he’ll probably make a few more but I prefer to take an overall view of what’s happening at the club and on the pitch which I can only see positives.
Before it’s mentioned my glasses aren’t green tinted!

Why is it that anyone who points out deficiencies in the team or Management "has an agenda"? I can see than Harry Maguire isn't the most mobile defender in the Country and that Spurs rely  too much on Harry Kane, does that mean I "have an agenda" against Mourinho or OGS?

Or do you think everyone should just be mindless cheerleaders for all that Hallett and Lowe does?

I have opinions and I'm not going to keep them to myself just because you have a different view.

BTW, my first post on this thread was that it was a good result

They don't, necessarily.  But you do.  

People who don't have an "agenda" or axe to grind don't find fault in everything and compliment the good.  You never ever have a good word to say about either Lowe or Hallett.  You just criticize non stop.  You're even trying to pin a mistake that was personal howler by Watts, on Lowe.  What is that, if not having an agenda?  It's pathetic.

Your views and statements are the very definition of the term "agenda".