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| Subject: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:38 pm | |
| Always on the cards and unforunately many clubs and indeed buisnesses will have to follow suit. All thanks to some twat and their bat eating ways. LINK - from link wrote:
- Plymouth Argyle Football Club has today (Wednesday, July begun an organisational restructure programme in order to secure the long-term future of the club.
In the months that have passed since the EFL season was interrupted, it has become increasingly clear that the global COVID-19 crisis will have a significant impact on the football industry, particularly for clubs in the lower leagues.
As detailed in our recently published accounts for the six-month period up until June 2019, 60% of Argyle’s revenues come from match-day activities alone. With ticketing, hospitality and commercial opportunities limited in the medium term, the club faces a significant and unprecedented financial shortfall before the end of the 20/21 EFL season.
The club has undertaken a number of infrastructure improvements in recent years in order to support our ambition of becoming a self-sustaining Championship club. However, as discussed in the recent note to supporters by club Chairman Simon Hallett, Argyle is not immune to the very present existential threat that comes from no match-day revenues.
As such, the club has been forced to realign the structure of the organisation to ensure survival in the short-term, and growth towards the ambition of becoming a financially sustainable, upwardly-mobile football club beyond that.
Since the beginning of this crisis, the club has aimed to be transparent and supportive in its dealings with staff members and supporters. As previously outlined, this support included topping up furloughed employees’ salaries beyond the government Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme funding until the end of June.
Although no final decisions have been taken on individual roles at this stage, the club anticipates that a number of jobs will be placed at risk during the consultation process, and, unfortunately, in some cases, redundancies will be necessary.
Argyle prioritises its duty of care to staff during this period and will ensure that all affected colleagues are engaged with transparently, fairly, and supportively, throughout the process.
Although the club’s aim has been to remain as open and communicative as possible during this crisis, we will be offering no further comment on this matter, and ask that supporters and media remain respectful of club employees’ right to privacy.
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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:27 pm | |
| This is one person not needed
Jon Back – Head of Stadium Redevelopment (Operations)
Brent will give him employment
Head of Shed Redevelopment |
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| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:31 pm | |
| - Tgwu wrote:
- This is one person not needed
Jon Back – Head of Stadium Redevelopment (Operations)
Brent will give him employment
Head of Shed Redevelopment he shouldn't be made redundant he should be sacked but i feel hes already left as there was talk he was being let go at the end of the season. |
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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:35 pm | |
| - Angry wrote:
- Tgwu wrote:
- This is one person not needed
Jon Back – Head of Stadium Redevelopment (Operations)
Brent will give him employment
Head of Shed Redevelopment he shouldn't be made redundant he should be sacked but i feel hes already left as there was talk he was being let go at the end of the season. Lets hope that is confirmed |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:11 pm | |
| Everybody is still on furlough for a while and I'm sure the club will have business rate holiday and maybe even grant money. Stewards and lots of match day staff will simply not be hired on. Seems a bit early to be talking about job cuts. Sounds harsh. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:30 pm | |
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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:41 pm | |
| Just look at the back room staff, not many manual worker there Football Management Neil Dewsnip - Director of Football Ryan Lowe – First-Team Manager Steven Schumacher – First-Team Assistant-Manager Kevin Nancekivell – First-Team Coach Rhys Wilmot – Goalkeeping Coach Dave Galley – Physiotherapist John Lucas – Head of Fitness & Conditioning Jimmy Dickinson – Performance Analyst Neil Lunnon – Kit & Equipment Manager Sean Porter-Nail - Assistant Kit & Equipment Manager Ellen Shine – PA to Football Management Academy Phil Stokes - Academy Manager Chris Beard - Head of Academy Recruitment Alex Bressington - Centre of Excellence Manager Alex Booth - Lead Sports Scientist Lee Hodge - Head of Academy Coaching Tom Hunter - Senior Sport Therapist Kate Kirkham - Academy Secretary Jamie Lowry - YDP Lead Coach 12-16 Dan Thompson - FP Lead Coach 5-11 Darren Way - Lead Coach 16-18 Business Management Andrew Parkinson – Chief Executive/Senior Safeguarding Manager Zac Newton – Club Secretary/Head of Inclusion Rick Cowdery – Head of Communications/Supporter Liaison Officer James Greenacre – Head of Commercial Operations Christian Kent – Head of Conferencing & Events Ben Rendle – Financial Controller John Spreadbridge – Head of Facilities & Support Services Jamie Yabsley – Head of Marketing Big Green Lottery Tim Herbert – Big Green Lottery [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Commercial Laura Lezemore - Business Development Executive Ellen Shine – Administrator/Big Green Lottery [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]James Voisey – Partnerships Development Manager Conferencing & Events Emily Drew - Hospitality Coordinator Antony Mitchell - Business Development Manager Jack Wiggins – Head Chef Facilities & Support Services Jon Back – Head of Stadium Redevelopment (Operations) Martin Bird – Groundsman Andy Bradford - Systems Manager Chris Ralph – Grounds Manager Trevor Richards – Stadium Manager Finance Kerry Crocker - Finance Assistant Katrina Mortimore – Management Accountant Media / Accreditation Daniel Cole Rick Cowdery Nino Robertson Retail Rachel Fry – Head of Retail Ticket Office Nicki Errington – Ticket Office Manager Data Protection Andrew Bradford - Data Protection Officer - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Disability Liaison Nikki Francis Argyle Community Trust [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Mark Lovell – Chief Executive Dwain Morgan – Community Social Inclusion Officer Jason Chapman – Community Football Development Officer |
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| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:14 pm | |
| - Earwegoagain wrote:
- Everybody is still on furlough for a while and I'm sure the club will have business rate holiday and maybe even grant money. Stewards and lots of match day staff will simply not be hired on. Seems a bit early to be talking about job cuts. Sounds harsh.
i think its refreshing of the club to be open and early with this news as the ones that will be hammered are as you say the match day staff as there is no point hiring them when we don't know when we all can go back to home park or how many will be allowed when they are. At least they have the heads up to go look for other work when the furlough is ended not thats theres alot out there in truth or start the uc application. |
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Jon L
Posts : 186 Join date : 2012-04-28
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:28 pm | |
| Without knowing any of the job descriptions, I reckon you could take 4-5 roles from that list to save £100-120k a year pretty easily.
I'm sure some could be combined and most likely everyone down to Head Chef is required. After that, trimming numbers or combining roles be 4 or 5 would easily clear that amount. If that isn't enough you can always repeat the exercise in 6 months time. |
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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:49 am | |
| - Angry wrote:
- Earwegoagain wrote:
- Everybody is still on furlough for a while and I'm sure the club will have business rate holiday and maybe even grant money. Stewards and lots of match day staff will simply not be hired on. Seems a bit early to be talking about job cuts. Sounds harsh.
i think its refreshing of the club to be open and early with this news as the ones that will be hammered are as you say the match day staff as there is no point hiring them when we don't know when we all can go back to home park or how many will be allowed when they are.
At least they have the heads up to go look for other work when the furlough is ended not thats theres alot out there in truth or start the uc application. Are employers being offer a thousand pounds to take back furlough workers? |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:15 am | |
| There are quite a few ‘Heads of Department’ names there. It’ll probably be the underlings below them that face the chop though, especially the ones working directly on the conferencing/catering side which at the minute is obviously non-existent.
Jon Backs position clearly looks precarious. But no matter who they are, it’s a bit crass to wish unemployment on people though. |
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Dog Bone Malone
Posts : 1148 Join date : 2020-04-28 Location : Bluesville, Jannerbama
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:17 am | |
| - Czarcasm wrote:
- There are quite a few ‘Heads of Department’ names there. It’ll probably be the underlings below them that face the chop though, especially the ones working directly on the conferencing/catering side which at the minute is obviously non-existent.
Jon Backs position clearly looks precarious. But no matter who they are, it’s a bit crass to wish unemployment on people though. Aye - I've been made redundant before. Not a pleasant experience. Especially if your financially committed. |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:45 am | |
| PAFC were bound to announce redundancies at some point. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:04 am | |
| It does amuse the Brent = Evil and Hallett = God these days. Imagine the furore if Brent had made this announcement? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:06 pm | |
| im told nool has banned all talk of this subject ! is that true? |
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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:38 pm | |
| - Angry wrote:
- im told nool has banned all talk of this subject ! is that true?
You are not allow to mention names, |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:08 pm | |
| - Earwegoagain wrote:
- It does amuse the Brent = Evil and Hallett = God these days. Imagine the furore if Brent had made this announcement?
If Brent was still here this announcement would have been made back in March. Furlough wages wouldn’t have been topped up, and by now we’d have been the new Wigan, or worse, Bury. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:45 pm | |
| - Czarcasm wrote:
- Earwegoagain wrote:
- It does amuse the Brent = Evil and Hallett = God these days. Imagine the furore if Brent had made this announcement?
If Brent was still here this announcement would have been made back in March. Furlough wages wouldn’t have been topped up, and by now we’d have been the new Wigan, or worse, Bury. he would have been leaning on the GT's and the fans to fund it all again. |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:38 pm | |
| I think there will be many a club going down this avenue due to covid-19. At the end of all this, whenever that be, how much of L1, L2 and the National League will be remaining ? |
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Grovehill
Posts : 2291 Join date : 2012-01-24
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:45 pm | |
| - Earwegoagain wrote:
- It does amuse the Brent = Evil and Hallett = God these days. Imagine the furore if Brent had made this announcement?
Careful, you'll have a baying mob of pitchfork waving loons after you, if you say things like that! Best avoid phrases like "Multi millionaire US based financial markets speculator sacks loyal staff after celebrating promotion" |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:53 pm | |
| - Grovehill wrote:
- Earwegoagain wrote:
- It does amuse the Brent = Evil and Hallett = God these days. Imagine the furore if Brent had made this announcement?
Careful, you'll have a baying mob of pitchfork waving loons after you, if you say things like that!
Best avoid phrases like "Multi millionaire US based financial markets speculator sacks loyal staff after celebrating promotion" all clubs will be doing lay offs including the really rich ones as no club wants to pay match day staff when there isn't a need for them at the moment. some clubs will doing more than lay off match day staff, just look at exeter they let all out of contract players go and most of the coaching staff cause they cant afford to offer them new deals and that's not including the behind the scenes staff. There is no point playing politics or what's right or wrong as its horrid situation but its unavoidable and not just for argyle, if they can keep the number low im sure they will. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:56 pm | |
| Match day staff simply won't be hired until there is a match on. It's not about them. Mind you looking at the staff list it does look a bit top heavy on chiefs and low on Indians. |
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Grovehill
Posts : 2291 Join date : 2012-01-24
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:14 pm | |
| - Earwegoagain wrote:
- Match day staff simply won't be hired until there is a match on. It's not about them. Mind you looking at the staff list it does look a bit top heavy on chiefs and low on Indians.
Try to steer clear of racial profiling, please |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:42 pm | |
| - Grovehill wrote:
- Earwegoagain wrote:
- Match day staff simply won't be hired until there is a match on. It's not about them. Mind you looking at the staff list it does look a bit top heavy on chiefs and low on Indians.
Try to steer clear of racial profiling, please why its very clear what ears meant and it wasnt racist in its tone. |
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Dog Bone Malone
Posts : 1148 Join date : 2020-04-28 Location : Bluesville, Jannerbama
| Subject: Re: Lay offs coming soon? Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:51 pm | |
| - Grovehill wrote:
- Earwegoagain wrote:
- Match day staff simply won't be hired until there is a match on. It's not about them. Mind you looking at the staff list it does look a bit top heavy on chiefs and low on Indians.
Try to steer clear of racial profiling, please [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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