Coronavirus and Football

Army should have been on streets policing lockdown with the police.

Because they aren't just goes to show it was never a "lockdown"

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

Are those figures for Plymouth people or admissions from surrounding areas ?

Graiser wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

Are those figures for Plymouth people or admissions from surrounding areas ?

Those that were treated by Derriford Hospital,could be any one from the surrounded area, even second home owners.

Tgwu wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

Are those figures for Plymouth people or admissions from surrounding areas ?

Those that were treated by Derriford Hospital,could be any one from the surrounded area, even second home owners.

Derriford covers a huge area way out past Tavistock.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Plymouth has been lucky so far, and able to cope well because at the point of ‘lockdown’, the number of people infected was very low in comparison to say, London or the Midlands.

The margins are very small.

If we went 7-10 days longer before lockdown came about, the exponential growth in virus numbers would probably mean we’d need a Nightingale hospital by now.

The time bomb comes in the summer. Air travel abroad will still no doubt be a nonstarter, so be prepared for hordes of Covid-19 laden cockneys and northerners coming to Devon and Cornwall for their holidays.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

Are those figures for Plymouth people or admissions from surrounding areas ?

Those that were treated by Derriford Hospital,could be any one from the surrounded area, even second home owners.

Derriford covers a huge area way out past Tavistock.

Understood not just Plymouth people then, my missus was getting a bit worried !

Czarcasm wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Plymouth has been lucky so far, and able to cope well because at the point of ‘lockdown’, the number of people infected was very low in comparison to say, London or the Midlands.

The margins are very small.

If we went 7-10 days longer before lockdown came about, the exponential growth in virus numbers would probably mean we’d need a Nightingale hospital by now.

The time bomb comes in the summer. Air travel abroad will still no doubt be a nonstarter, so be prepared for hordes of Covid-19 laden cockneys and northerners coming to Devon and Cornwall for their holidays.

'Hordes of Covid 19 laden cockneys and northerners' bit of a generalisation that one isnt it ?

Get orrf my laaaand , bleddy ferriners .

Punchdrunk wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Plymouth has been lucky so far, and able to cope well because at the point of ‘lockdown’, the number of people infected was very low in comparison to say, London or the Midlands.

The margins are very small.

If we went 7-10 days longer before lockdown came about, the exponential growth in virus numbers would probably mean we’d need a Nightingale hospital by now.

The time bomb comes in the summer. Air travel abroad will still no doubt be a nonstarter, so be prepared for hordes of Covid-19 laden cockneys and northerners coming to Devon and Cornwall for their holidays.

'Hordes of Covid 19 laden cockneys and northerners' bit of a generalisation that one isnt it ?

Get orrf my laaaand , bleddy ferriners .

Terrible thing to say-you forgot Mancs, Scousers and Brummies

Punchdrunk wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Plymouth has been lucky so far, and able to cope well because at the point of ‘lockdown’, the number of people infected was very low in comparison to say, London or the Midlands.

The margins are very small.

If we went 7-10 days longer before lockdown came about, the exponential growth in virus numbers would probably mean we’d need a Nightingale hospital by now.

The time bomb comes in the summer. Air travel abroad will still no doubt be a nonstarter, so be prepared for hordes of Covid-19 laden cockneys and northerners coming to Devon and Cornwall for their holidays.

'Hordes of Covid 19 laden cockneys and northerners' bit of a generalisation that one isnt it ?

Get orrf my laaaand , bleddy ferriners .

Yes they should until this is all over. It's the last thing that should be allowed.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Plymouth has been lucky so far, and able to cope well because at the point of ‘lockdown’, the number of people infected was very low in comparison to say, London or the Midlands.

The margins are very small.

If we went 7-10 days longer before lockdown came about, the exponential growth in virus numbers would probably mean we’d need a Nightingale hospital by now.

The time bomb comes in the summer. Air travel abroad will still no doubt be a nonstarter, so be prepared for hordes of Covid-19 laden cockneys and northerners coming to Devon and Cornwall for their holidays.

'Hordes of Covid 19 laden cockneys and northerners' bit of a generalisation that one isnt it ?

Get orrf my laaaand , bleddy ferriners .

Yes they should until this is all over. It's the last thing that should be allowed.

But it's not just going to be 'all over' some of you bang on about a vaccine as if it's like building a large house.

There may never be a viable vaccine...many viruses and illnesses don't have one like HIV, Dengue or even the common cold despite the best brains working on them for years...it will be something we all live with...life will go on and it will be managed like other viruses I guess !
If football doesn't get going again then many teams could disappear for good !

And heres another one, vaccine never get's found. What are we all going to do for the next 100 years, live under a stone?

Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

There's never been a vaccine for aids... 60 odd coronavirus deaths at Derriford whilst heartbreaking is something like 0.01% of Plymouth's population.

I would have gone for shielding the over 70's and vulnerable people and then herd immunity with no lockdown, but the government claims to be following scientific advice and that scientific advice changed its mind with new modelling which said that policy would lead to 500,000 deaths, so Boris had no choice really, the Brits are not the sort to put up with an extended or harsh lockdown and of course we do have to emerge into the sunlight at some point, it will never be 'safe' to go to a game, a gig, a cinema, a pub until there's a vaccine so immunity is the way to go IMO, unless you can catch it again which has also been mooted, fecked really.

Jesus Wept.....Staggering

When Warren acts the world sneezes. Clearly he knows this will continue for a long long time

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PatDunne wrote:

There's never been a vaccine for aids... 60 odd coronavirus deaths at Derriford whilst heartbreaking is something like 0.01% of Plymouth's population.

I would have gone for shielding the over 70's and vulnerable people and then herd immunity with no lockdown, but the government claims to be following scientific advice and that scientific advice changed its mind with new modelling which said that policy would lead to 500,000 deaths, so Boris had no choice really, the Brits are not the sort to put up with an extended or harsh lockdown and of course we do have to emerge into the sunlight at some point, it will never be 'safe' to go to a game, a gig, a cinema, a pub until there's a vaccine so immunity is the way to go IMO, unless you can catch it again which has also been mooted, fecked really.

It did make me laugh the other day when that muppet from Wetherspoons was saying his pubs will be open again in June. Even if they were, the sort of people you’d get in there would be the pond life who’ve been going round each other’s houses for the last 6 weeks anyway.

Life certainly won’t be normal for a long time. Keeping the R number below 1 for an extended period, without being in some sort of lockdown is going to be massively difficult. The only way it happens is if virtually 100% of the population buy in to the bigger picture, testing is done on a huge repetitive scale, and that we have a super effective track and trace system in place.

The issue down in the Southwest is that a lot of people become blasé about it. It doesn’t hit home until you see the paramedics in hazmat suits wheeling your neighbour out. Or a friend is hospitalised. Or a family member gets seriously ill.

“Just open the fokin pubs innit bheyyyy”.

A friend of my wife lost her grandmother last Tuesday, in a Plymouth Carehome that has had Covid 19 cases. The lady was 102. The lady's daughter and great grand daughter were allowed to enter the lady's room to see the body "at their own risk" and were given light PPE. They don't know if Covid 19 killed her as they aren't having a post mortem- other family members wanted to see the body at the funeral home but aren't allowed due to not having the post mortem. It does seem odd that they were allowed to visit the body.

I don't know whether there is a lack of guidance for Care Homes (my wife works in care but they have had no cases at her place) and could be why some have had it quite bad? (obviously the age of the residents has an impact also)

Punchdrunk wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

As of May 1, there had been 287 confirmed cases of corona virus in Plymouth.
Sadly 66 has pass away, but 172 patients has now be discharged (In the last week, 28 patients had recovered) 49 are still here in Derriford

Well done to all the staff who have helped to make this possible.

A mate of mine is a nurse in Tavistock and he says it's rife in the care homes around here, he even said that a home in Peter Tavy which is quite small has had seven deaths on its own. In the wider community we haven't really seen sight nor sound of it, I don't personally know anyone that has caught it.

Plymouth has been lucky so far, and able to cope well because at the point of ‘lockdown’, the number of people infected was very low in comparison to say, London or the Midlands.

The margins are very small.

If we went 7-10 days longer before lockdown came about, the exponential growth in virus numbers would probably mean we’d need a Nightingale hospital by now.

The time bomb comes in the summer. Air travel abroad will still no doubt be a nonstarter, so be prepared for hordes of Covid-19 laden cockneys and northerners coming to Devon and Cornwall for their holidays.

'Hordes of Covid 19 laden cockneys and northerners' bit of a generalisation that one isnt it ?

Get orrf my laaaand , bleddy ferriners .

Yes they should until this is all over. It's the last thing that should be allowed.

But it's not just going to be 'all over' some of you bang on about a vaccine as if it's like building a large house.

There may never be a viable vaccine...many viruses and illnesses don't have one like HIV, Dengue or even the common cold despite the best brains working on them for years...it will be something we all live with...life will go on and it will be managed like other viruses I guess !
If football doesn't get going again then many teams could disappear for good !

I've never thought that a vaccine is the answer, I've always said it will take too long. I agree with you on the whole that we need to get back to work but I think holidays are the last thing that should be unlocked and guess what my main earnings in the summertime is a holiday letting business. We are resigned to writing off this season. I've also been advocating track and trace for ages as this is the only way we will get it under control. It's a hard enough job doning this with the southwest work force without allowing nationwide travel. As I see it with the outbreak down here under control now is the time to start getting back to work but we will get new cases' it will take time. As for football like holidays it's not essential and it's time will come.

Chemical Ali wrote:

A friend of my wife lost her grandmother last Tuesday, in a Plymouth Carehome that has had Covid 19 cases. The lady was 102. The lady's daughter and great grand daughter were allowed to enter the lady's room to see the body "at their own risk" and were given light PPE. They don't know if Covid 19 killed her as they aren't having a post mortem- other family members wanted to see the body at the funeral home but aren't allowed due to not having the post mortem. It does seem odd that they were allowed to visit the body.

I don't know whether there is a lack of guidance for Care Homes (my wife works in care but they have had no cases at her place) and could be why some have had it quite bad? (obviously the age of the residents has an impact also)

My mate who's the nurse says that he's probably the biggest threat to any bodies health at the moment as half his time is spent visiting care homes with Covid outbreaks and yet he says his PPE is issued by the care home, some of them have good systems in place and plenty of PPE yet he says others are a lot more lax in their approach or simply haven't had PPE to issue them with. There was a decision made early on that we didn't have enough PPE to cover the outbreak in care homes and hospitals so the old people have in no small way been sacrificed for the common good.
The sad thing is that we actually planned for this outbreak two years ago yet we didn't seem to have any plan at all until swamped with cases, this is the story and the stick to beat the government with.

How shit is football played behind closed doors with players wearing masks ffs! its not about fooball its about money for the Billionaire owner boys in the prem making sure the TV companies have to pay in full.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

How shit is football played behind closed doors with players wearing masks ffs! its not about fooball its about money for the Billionaire owner boys in the prem making sure the TV companies have to pay in full.

And played in neutral stadiums with no relegation (but still 2/3 up from the Championship) is the latest idea prem clubs are taking about. If they went for that idea, with the title already won by miles and the champions league places mostly sorted pretty much the only thing left to play for is one Champions league place and the Europa league. For about three quarters of the Prem teams the remaining matches would be pointless kick abouts.

Freathy wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

How shit is football played behind closed doors with players wearing masks ffs! its not about fooball its about money for the Billionaire owner boys in the prem making sure the TV companies have to pay in full.

And played in neutral stadiums with no relegation (but still 2/3 up from the Championship) is the latest idea prem clubs are taking about.  If they went for that idea, with the title already won by miles  and the champions league places mostly sorted pretty much the only thing left to play for is one Champions league place and the Europa league.  For about three quarters of the Prem teams the remaining matches would be pointless kick abouts.

Get rid of the "pointless kick abouts" and we'd have a six team league in all reality.

Greedy bastards the PL & Tv company’s there itching to start again before people’s life’s
Speaking to my brother in law yesterday chelsea sent him a email saying there returning £200 on each season ticket for this season would suggest behind closed doors scenario

How long will Simon Hallett bankroll the club moving forward if social distancing is here for 18 months ??

Mass gatherings such as sports events are likely to be among the last restrictions lifted, which could well mean that part of next season takes place in empty stadia. Combined with the general downturn in the economy reducing attendances when the public are allowed back in and the recession hitting the businesses of the Club owners, it could well be the time for L1. L2 and the National League to be regionalised into North Midland and South with one team from each being promoted to the Championship.

Regionalisation will reduce Club's costs with the chance for more clubs to go part time semi pro. And more local Derbies will boost attendances. Argyle v Torquay, Yeovil likely to appeal to fans more than games against Macclesfield, Morecambe or Barrow

I know it sounds dire, but it would be far better for the Clubs to agree this now and that any games played "this" season are just to decide which teams play in which League in the next full season

You really have lost the plot now Grovey.