Coronavirus and Football

Rickler wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.

LOl.  Look at the names of those making these claims.  ...and you actually believe these people?  Don't you ask yourself, "How could they possibly know"?

Jeez..  Harve and his "Level three information".  Whateverthefuck that is?

That fooking boy had his hair cut yet you repulsive cvnt. Now fvck off you fat wanker

(As you were...apologies to everyone else sooner or later whoever runs this site will rein the deliberate troll in for good no one can be in the slightest doubt)

Grovehill wrote:

I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.

Yes he is indeed Grovey. The information is readily available by subscription to those normally working within financial markets

harvetheslayer wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.

Yes he is indeed Grovey. The information is readily available by subscription to those normally working within financial markets

What is trolling about asking you if this financial information is so readily available why you can never supply it?  

You say it would get you into trouble.  You must be the only person on the internet who can't release information without it coming back to him.  I mean..  Really?  What sort of piss poor excuse is that?  


Ps..  You've had Jameson locked on for five days now.  How long do you need?  LOl.. What's meant to happen this time?  I say "meant" as nothing you try to accomplish actually ever comes off!

Earwegoagain wrote:

Fairplay to Hallett for topping up the wages.

And by this I meant topping up the twenty percent not furloughing the staff. As for Halletts wealth it does amuse me seeing all his lapdogs changing tack as soon as he's criticised. I wonder how long his honeymoon will last?

I see Warnock is suggesting the Prem help out EFL clubs.

Can't see that happening.

Can't see Warnock shelling out either, tighter than a ducks arse.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Can't see Warnock shelling out either, tighter than a ducks arse.

Except with chairman's money

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Jupiler League in Belgium declared over and done. Club Brugge declared Champions. Relegation/promotion etc to be decided at a later date.

Have just lifted that from footie forum so I assume in the last hour it happened

Earwegoagain wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Fairplay to Hallett for topping up the wages.

And by this I meant topping up the twenty percent not furloughing the staff. As for Halletts wealth it does amuse me seeing all his lapdogs changing tack as soon as he's criticised. I wonder how long his honeymoon will last?

Minted or not minted..That is the question ?

RegGreen wrote:

Minted or not minted..That is the question ?

Depends on what is meant by minted, He’s got a few bob that’s for sure but not sure that’s a reason for paying the PAFC wages out of his pocket, if it is then surely we should also expect Dawson and his ilk to do the same for their workforce, it ain’t going to happen is it.
A better shout would be the banks forking out and repaying the tax payers bale out money from 2008.

shonbo wrote:

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Where have I suggested the players should be made to take a pay cut?

I have suggested that they act in a socially responsible manner and offer to either take a pay cut or volunteer to donate part of their income to those in need at this time.

How many people think it's morally acceptable that people on salaries of thousands of pounds/week continue to pocket all they can while laid off cleaners, hospitality staff etc are on the breadline?

Can player's trust clubs if wage deferal scheme could be implemented maybe via the PFA?

Grovehill wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Where have I suggested the players should be made to take a pay cut?

I have suggested that they act in a socially responsible manner and offer to either take a pay cut or volunteer to donate part of their income to those in need at this time.

How many people think it's morally acceptable that people on salaries of thousands of pounds/week continue to pocket all they can while laid off cleaners, hospitality staff etc are on the breadline?

Your gradually changing tact, Premier players yes but L1 and L2 players no, they’re not on thousands of pounds a week.
These players have a career span of 10-15years if they’re lucky, the man in the street circa 40-50 years.

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Where have I suggested the players should be made to take a pay cut?

I have suggested that they act in a socially responsible manner and offer to either take a pay cut or volunteer to donate part of their income to those in need at this time.

How many people think it's morally acceptable that people on salaries of thousands of pounds/week continue to pocket all they can while laid off cleaners, hospitality staff etc are on the breadline?

Your gradually changing tact, Premier players yes but L1 and L2 players no, they’re not on thousands of pounds a week.
These players have a career span of 10-15years if they’re lucky, the man in the street circa 40-50 years.

Even at League 1 and 2 they still earn way more then your average working man and as for the sob story that they only have a career 10-15 years before they have to get a proper job well it's the same for many people like ex serviceman typically can only do a maximum of 20-22 years on shit money then have to re role into another career completely for another 20-25 years before they can even think about retiring.

harvetheslayer wrote:

Jupiler League in Belgium declared over and done. Club Brugge declared Champions. Relegation/promotion etc to be decided at a later date.

Have just lifted that from footie forum so I assume in the last hour it happened

One of the arguments from sports lawyer that’s is probably the only of doing it. You’d abide by promotion but not relegation and then re adjust following season.

Punchdrunk wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Where have I suggested the players should be made to take a pay cut?

I have suggested that they act in a socially responsible manner and offer to either take a pay cut or volunteer to donate part of their income to those in need at this time.

How many people think it's morally acceptable that people on salaries of thousands of pounds/week continue to pocket all they can while laid off cleaners, hospitality staff etc are on the breadline?

Your gradually changing tact, Premier players yes but L1 and L2 players no, they’re not on thousands of pounds a week.
These players have a career span of 10-15years if they’re lucky, the man in the street circa 40-50 years.

Even at League 1 and 2 they still earn way more then your average working man and as for the sob story that they only have a career 10-15 years before they have to get a proper job well it's the same for many people like ex serviceman typically can only do a maximum of 20-22 years on shit money then have to re role into another career completely for another 20-25 years before they can even think about retiring.

It’s not a sob story, just a fact.

League One £2300 League Two £1100 some earn more and some less but That's the average.

Average Salary UK | 2019. The Office of National Statistics has released its provisional update of the UK Average Salary 2019, showing that the average full-time salary is £36,611 and average part-time salary is £12,495.2 Dec 2019

Of course it’s more but hardly way more than the ordinary working man in the street.

I had a brother who served in the Navy from 15years old until he was mandated to retire after 25 years service, if he could have signed for another 5 or 10 years he would have done, he loved it and money was never an issue with him throughout his Military career, but I guess everybody has their individual story, some good, some bad.

Graiser wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Where have I suggested the players should be made to take a pay cut?

I have suggested that they act in a socially responsible manner and offer to either take a pay cut or volunteer to donate part of their income to those in need at this time.

How many people think it's morally acceptable that people on salaries of thousands of pounds/week continue to pocket all they can while laid off cleaners, hospitality staff etc are on the breadline?

Your gradually changing tact, Premier players yes but L1 and L2 players no, they’re not on thousands of pounds a week.
These players have a career span of 10-15years if they’re lucky, the man in the street circa 40-50 years.

Even at League 1 and 2 they still earn way more then your average working man and as for the sob story that they only have a career 10-15 years before they have to get a proper job well it's the same for many people like ex serviceman typically can only do a maximum of 20-22 years on shit money then have to re role into another career completely for another 20-25 years before they can even think about retiring.

It’s not a sob story, just a fact.

League One £2300 League Two £1100 some earn more and some less but That's the average.

Average Salary UK | 2019. The Office of National Statistics has released its provisional update of the UK Average Salary 2019, showing that the average full-time salary is £36,611 and average part-time salary is £12,495.2 Dec 2019

Of course it’s more but hardly way more than the ordinary working man in the street.

I had a brother who served in the Navy from 15years old until he was mandated to retire after 25 years service, if he could have signed for another 5 or 10 years he would have done, he loved it and money was never an issue with him throughout his Military career, but I guess everybody has their individual story, some good, some bad.

I earn feck all compared to a league 2 player yet I've still been helping out with food bank donations and food deliveries. ANY footballer who is not now either helping out his club or his community should hang his head in shame, period. It's bad enough having selfish tight feckers around at this time it's worse when ordinary people are making excuses for them.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Grovey - I respect your ability to voice your opinion on ATD and would not want you to stop. However, any salary cut with a player is (i believe) a breach of contract hence why those fkrs are getting paid, whilst employees are getting furloughed. You breach contract they can demand a transfer.
Harve - Your last post but one did you no favours IMHO opinion. With what's going on i the world maybe now is the time to drawback a bit. Unfortunately we are a 4th tier football club. Not the United Nations.

With love
S

Where have I suggested the players should be made to take a pay cut?

I have suggested that they act in a socially responsible manner and offer to either take a pay cut or volunteer to donate part of their income to those in need at this time.

How many people think it's morally acceptable that people on salaries of thousands of pounds/week continue to pocket all they can while laid off cleaners, hospitality staff etc are on the breadline?

Your gradually changing tact, Premier players yes but L1 and L2 players no, they’re not on thousands of pounds a week.
These players have a career span of 10-15years if they’re lucky, the man in the street circa 40-50 years.

Even at League 1 and 2 they still earn way more then your average working man and as for the sob story that they only have a career 10-15 years before they have to get a proper job well it's the same for many people like ex serviceman typically can only do a maximum of 20-22 years on shit money then have to re role into another career completely for another 20-25 years before they can even think about retiring.

It’s not a sob story, just a fact.

League One £2300 League Two £1100 some earn more and some less but That's the average.

Average Salary UK | 2019. The Office of National Statistics has released its provisional update of the UK Average Salary 2019, showing that the average full-time salary is £36,611 and average part-time salary is £12,495.2 Dec 2019

Of course it’s more but hardly way more than the ordinary working man in the street.

I had a brother who served in the Navy from 15years old until he was mandated to retire after 25 years service, if he could have signed for another 5 or 10 years he would have done, he loved it and money was never an issue with him throughout his Military career, but I guess everybody has their individual story, some good, some bad.

I earn feck all compared to a league 2 player yet I've still been helping out with food bank donations and food deliveries. ANY footballer who is not now either helping out his club or his community should hang his head in shame, period. It's bad enough having selfish tight feckers around at this time it's worse when ordinary people are making excuses for them.

I’m not making excuses for them at all, just responding that lower league salaries are not what most seem to think they are.
As for them not helping out within their local community, I can’t answer that because I don’t know if they do or don’t, do you ?
Most probably if some were helping out (as per Sarcevic) and it was being publicised that’ll be wrong as well, so they’re damned anyway.
Bit strange with all this angst against the lower league players yet there appears to be plenty of posters on here quite happily paying their Sky subscriptions some of which supports the Premier players their exorbitant salaries, now those are the players that deserve our sights trained on them.

Footballers are obviously going to be in the spotlight with this argument, because they’re in the public eye. Is there any difference, morally, in saying that if a footballer on 2 grand a week ought to donate some wages, then my solicitor down the road who earns the same salary, should fall under exactly the same moral obligation? Or is he exempt?

Perhaps hedge fund owners should be included in this discussion?

Czarcasm wrote:

Footballers are obviously going to be in the spotlight with this argument, because they’re in the public eye. Is there any difference, morally, in saying that if a footballer on 2 grand a week ought to donate some wages, then my solicitor down the road who earns the same salary, should fall under exactly the same moral obligation? Or is he exempt?

Exactly the point I was trying to make, badly it would appear

I was saying there's no excuse for professional footballers not helping out you were providing them with excuses. Simples.

talksport are doing my head in atm. everytime i turn it on there's a premiership or ex prem player/manager on coming up with so many crazy and not likely to happen ways the prem can continue just so liverpool win the league even going so far as to say play into august then start the new season the following week!!!! but efl should be voided.

as long as the media and fat cats can get what they want screw everyone else.