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Decent post from Daz on farm central have to say I think he's spot on

"The places that are working are supposed to be key workers. Many of them are not and should not be working. The government need to get a grip of that very quickly. Hopefully now Boris is infected he will understand how dangerous this is and how many people are about to die.

Football is not important, Troy Deeney is an idiot if he said that as It’s not about him being a healthy footballer. It’s about who it can be passed on to 2 weeks later. The government are building 3 temporary hospitals to house the wave of people they are expecting to become seriously ill in the next 2 weeks.

I’ve had the same conversation with my father in law who wanted me to drop a tin of radiator paint to him today. He’s had a heart attack and has emphysema. If the wind was in the wrong direction I could kill him."
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptySat Mar 28, 2020 9:20 am

Had a text today from garage in Launceston who did some hideously expensive and shite work for me on my van saying they are open and you can drop your vehicle in yard, they will come out and get it then you pay over phone when done. Classic example of people thinking the rules apply to everybody else but them. Anyway I knew the guy was a coont. Name rhymes with Bill Filler avoid him if you can.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptySat Mar 28, 2020 11:46 am

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Had a text today from garage in Launceston who did some hideously expensive and shite work for me on my van saying they are open and you can drop your vehicle in yard, they will come out and get it then you pay over phone when done. Classic example of people thinking the rules apply to everybody else but them. Anyway I knew the guy was a coont. Name rhymes with Bill Filler avoid him if you can.
Just spent nearly a grand on my van, now i cant fookin drive anywhere! cheers cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 10:58 am

harvetheslayer wrote:
Decent post from Daz on farm central have to say I think he's spot on

"The places that are working are supposed to be key workers. Many of them are not and should not be working. The government need to get a grip of that very quickly. Hopefully now Boris is infected he will understand how dangerous this is and how many people are about to die.

Football is not important, Troy Deeney is an idiot if he said that as It’s not about him being a healthy footballer. It’s about who it can be passed on to 2 weeks later. The government are building 3 temporary hospitals to house the wave of people they are expecting to become seriously ill in the next 2 weeks.

I’ve had the same conversation with my father in law who wanted me to drop a tin of radiator paint to him today. He’s had a heart attack and has emphysema. If the wind was in the wrong direction I could kill him."


I know Rittals is still operating as I know one or two that work up there.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 11:53 am

How can Spurs cut pay of non-playing staff by 20% when the owner is mega wealthy. Maybe the players should also chip in out of their massive salaries.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 12:51 pm

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How can Spurs cut pay of non-playing staff by 20% when the owner is mega wealthy. Maybe the players should also chip in out of their massive salaries.

loopholes again being exploited.. If players in top leagues including messi and ronaldo can take huge pay cuts to help out staff and help the club out then why cant premiership players do that here let alone wealthy owners who can afford to cover the staff's wages but choose not too.
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Mike ashley furloughed everyone apart from his playing staff. Now that guy truly is is the epitome of greed and self interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 3:18 pm

Argyle are furloughing-

HAVING taken suitable guidance from the government and football authorities, Plymouth Argyle has taken the decision to access government support to furlough a proportion of its workforce, including playing staff.

However, in line with Argyle's Vision and Values, the club has committed to topping up the funding received through the government’s Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme (CJRS) to ensure that all furloughed staff will continue to receive their full salaries until the end of June, at the earliest.

Argyle’s aspiration is to become a fully financially sustainable football club, and with all areas of the business - from football to conferencing and hospitality - effectively on hiatus until government measures are lifted, the club felt that accessing government funding was the responsible approach to a difficult situation.



The government may decide to extend the furloughing scheme, depending on progress made in the fight against the pandemic. The club's senior management will monitor and review this situation on an ongoing basis.

A small roster of staff has been retained during the coronavirus pandemic, in addition to senior members of the football operations department, to ensure that essential club business can still be conducted.

As announced last week, the Home Park Ticket Office, as well as the Argyle Superstore, remains closed at this time, while the Mayflower Grandstand is currently being used by the University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust as a temporary health centre for antenatal and phlebotomy appointments.

If you have concerns or queries that are not answered by our COVID-19 FAQs section, please contact [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a member of staff will be in touch as soon as they can.

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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 3:45 pm

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Argyle are furloughing-

HAVING taken suitable guidance from the government and football authorities, Plymouth Argyle has taken the decision to access government support to furlough a proportion of its workforce, including playing staff.

However, in line with Argyle's Vision and Values, the club has committed to topping up the funding received through the government’s Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme (CJRS) to ensure that all furloughed staff will continue to receive their full salaries until the end of June, at the earliest.

Argyle’s aspiration is to become a fully financially sustainable football club, and with all areas of the business - from football to conferencing and hospitality - effectively on hiatus until government measures are lifted, the club felt that accessing government funding was the responsible approach to a difficult situation.



The government may decide to extend the furloughing scheme, depending on progress made in the fight against the pandemic. The club's senior management will monitor and review this situation on an ongoing basis.

A small roster of staff has been retained during the coronavirus pandemic, in addition to senior members of the football operations department, to ensure that essential club business can still be conducted.

As announced last week, the Home Park Ticket Office, as well as the Argyle Superstore, remains closed at this time, while the Mayflower Grandstand is currently being used by the University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust as a temporary health centre for antenatal and phlebotomy appointments.

If you have concerns or queries that are not answered by our COVID-19 FAQs section, please contact [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a member of staff will be in touch as soon as they can.

We thank you for your support.

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if brent were here he'd be asking the GT's to pay the other half that gorvenment is paying during this time.

I can understand us and clubs in this league, league one and it parts the championship but not the big premiership clubs applying of this as they actually do have the money and can survive.

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Wimbledon now axed completely not even postponed. Anyone who thinks footballs returning anytime soon think again
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Wimbledon now axed completely not even postponed. Anyone who thinks footballs returning anytime soon think again

Its the premiership thats clinging on to pipe dreams august minimum for any football even behind closed doors same for other team sports. As for wimbledon bg shame they couldn't reschedule for later in the year however with the french open rescheduling a few days before the us open starts and any later is hitting unpredictable autumn weather so no other option i feel.

maybe moving wimbledon to milton keynes might be the solution lol!


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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 4:37 pm

Fairplay to Hallett for topping up the wages.
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Punchdrunk wrote:
Mike ashley furloughed everyone apart from his playing staff. Now that guy truly is is the epitome of greed and self interest.
Agreed, along with Tottenhams top tosser, and many others in the greed league.
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Punchdrunk wrote:
Mike ashley furloughed everyone apart from his playing staff. Now that guy truly is is the epitome of greed and self interest.
Agreed, along with Tottenhams top tosser, and many others in the greed league.

they shouldnt be allowed but once again if you dont state the rules clearly someone will exploit it for their own good.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 7:39 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Fairplay to Hallett for topping up the wages.


No agenda guys, but if Levy is out of order for getting the UK taxpayer to pay 80% of none playing staff's wages, why is Hallett being praised for doing the same?

IMO, any UK player who doesn't offer to cut his salary to under a grand a week is taking the p*ss. People are beginning to realise that players are spoilt & selfish.

And before anyone asks, my partner and I are continuing to work full time in essential industries, but will be supporting the rest of the family who have been laid off.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 7:47 pm

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Earwegoagain wrote:
Fairplay to Hallett for topping up the wages.


No agenda guys, but if Levy is out of order for getting the UK taxpayer to pay 80% of none playing staff's wages, why is Hallett being praised for doing the same?

IMO, any UK player who doesn't offer to cut his salary to under a grand a week is taking the p*ss. People are beginning to realise that players are spoilt & selfish.

And before anyone asks, my partner and I are continuing to work full time in essential industries, but will be supporting the rest of the family who have been laid off.


because levy got given £7m very recently for his job and is a well renowned tight arse who can afford to pay the staff whereas hallett doesnt have that kind of free money nor does argyle make anything like what the spuds make thats why.


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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 8:31 pm

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Earwegoagain wrote:
Fairplay to Hallett for topping up the wages.


No agenda guys, but if Levy is out of order for getting the UK taxpayer to pay 80% of none playing staff's wages, why is Hallett being praised for doing the same?

IMO, any UK player who doesn't offer to cut his salary to under a grand a week is taking the p*ss. People are beginning to realise that players are spoilt & selfish.

And before anyone asks, my partner and I are continuing to work full time in essential industries, but will be supporting the rest of the family who have been laid off.

Hallett is actually being lauded because he’s paying the 20% to make up the difference, not the fact he’s furloughing staff.
I’m sure you understand the difference between Premier club revenues and the EFL and I don’t think we’re beginning to realise that Premier players are spoilt and selfish, we’ve known that for many years, seems to me you’ve got a bit of catching up to do.
As for L2 players taking a pay cut, what sort of salaries do you think they’re on ?

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I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.

Whichever way you chose to view it, the UK Govt (ie the taxpayer) is currently funding 80% of non playing staff wages, rather than their (allegedly seriously rich) employer, who incidentally not a UK income tax payer. Double standards re Brent and Hallett, I think. Meanwhile, I have yet to hear of any PAFC players helping out, surely they could defer mortgage payments for a few months in order to help people on little more than minimum wage or who have totally unexpectedly found themselves out of work?  I fail to see the distinction between PL and EFL salaries either, whether they are on £3k, £30k or £300k a week, they should be helping out those in need. Would any PAFC player struggle to survive on a mere £1000/wk for a few months?
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 9:03 pm

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I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.

Whichever way you chose to view it, the UK Govt (ie the taxpayer) is currently funding 80% of non playing staff wages, rather than their (allegedly seriously rich) employer, who incidentally not a UK income tax payer. Double standards re Brent and Hallett, I think. Meanwhile, I have yet to hear of any PAFC players helping out, surely they could defer mortgage payments for a few months in order to help people on little more than minimum wage or who have totally unexpectedly found themselves out of work?  I fail to see the distinction between PL and EFL salaries either, whether they are on £3k, £30k or £300k a week, they should be helping out those in need.  

Your confusing Premier salaries with L2 salaries, I don’t see the distinction between a L2 player on 1k a week or the man in the street earning similar and there are many.
Why aren’t we all taking a salary/pension cut to help out ? If you want to start a crowd fund let us all know and we’ll chip in.
Hallett does have some serious dosh and good luck to him, you may question his source of funding but I don’t think that’s any secret, why don’t you research him and find out for yourself or is it more fun just to sling a few arrows in his direction.
What’s your clubs efforts to the cause ?
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 9:11 pm

Grovehill wrote:
I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.


LOl. Look at the names of those making these claims. ...and you actually believe these people? Don't you ask yourself, "How could they possibly know"?

Jeez.. Harve and his "Level three information". Whateverthefuck that is?
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 9:38 pm

Grovehill wrote:
I'm sorry, but whenever I have questioned the source of Hallett's money, various posters assure me he is seriously rich.

Whichever way you chose to view it, the UK Govt (ie the taxpayer) is currently funding 80% of non playing staff wages, rather than their (allegedly seriously rich) employer, who incidentally not a UK income tax payer. Double standards re Brent and Hallett, I think. Meanwhile, I have yet to hear of any PAFC players helping out, surely they could defer mortgage payments for a few months in order to help people on little more than minimum wage or who have totally unexpectedly found themselves out of work?  I fail to see the distinction between PL and EFL salaries either, whether they are on £3k, £30k or £300k a week, they should be helping out those in need. Would any PAFC player struggle to survive on a mere £1000/wk for a few months?

Could also argue when those clubs in the prem choose to have taxpayers pay their staff and not insist their players and footballing staff (with the exception of bournemouth) take pay cuts like alot of top clubs in europe have including messi and ronaldo...  

Spurs have wealthy benefactors too argyle one have one who im sure would if he could bankroll the club but he doesnt have that kind of income coming in to cover the his own losses going out.
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Feck me, Hallett's gone from wealthy benefactor to barely able to keep the club afloat in half a dozen posts!

Leaving the Chairman aside, if the players (at any Club) had any social conscience, they would have collectively agreed to a proportion of their salaries being used to support the non playing club staff at this exceptional time.

I have no problem knowing that taxes will rise in the future because we as a nation, are supporting people at this time. But it's one thing to support restaurant staff who have been laid off because their employer can't afford to pay any off them, quite another to expect the Country to support an office worker laid off by PAFC (or any other Club) while the players continue to pick up salaries way beyond what they need at present.

Jack Grealish hasn't just made himself look a twat by his antics, he's made lots of people think about how selfish footballers can be.

There is more to life than football, and the nation is beginning to think footballers need a reality check.
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PostSubject: Re: Coronavirus and Football   Coronavirus and Football - Page 8 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2020 10:42 pm

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Feck me, Hallett's gone from wealthy benefactor to barely able to keep the club afloat in half a dozen posts!

Leaving the Chairman aside, if the players (at any Club)  had any social conscience, they would have collectively agreed to a proportion of their salaries being used to support the non playing club staff at this exceptional time.

I have no problem knowing that taxes will rise in the future because we as a nation, are supporting people at this time. But it's one thing to support restaurant staff who have been laid off because their employer can't afford to pay any off them, quite another to expect the Country to support an office worker laid off by PAFC (or any other Club) while the players continue to pick up salaries way beyond what they need at present.

Jack Grealish hasn't just made himself look a twat by his antics, he's made lots of people think about how selfish footballers can be.

There is more to life than football, and the nation is beginning to think footballers need a reality check.

i dont think so, hallett doesnt have the money a premiership club owner has nor does the other directors. argyle probably draws in a year what spurs do in a month in terms of revenue so there is a huge difference to what your arguing for. spurs can afford to pay their staff during these dark months ahead where as we will be hit hard due to the lack of revenue so we do need some help.


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Taxes will rise undoutebly as are result of the furloughing, how much so will depend on how long UK government continue to lock down the workforce for.

My beef is with the banks, we bailed them out in the last decade so now they should be repaying that,
Edit to add who controls the global banks, GDP and the federal reserve?

I might go down that road but i'll probaly get a warning like Bob Crow did.
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