EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath...

And well probably end up with another hung parliament.

Apparently Project Fear has cost the country £99999bn since 2016. Incredible figures.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Brilliant piece of manoeuvring by the House yet again. Three more months to do what exactly? No deal? Already ruled out, Deal with EU, already voted down a deal for two PM's. Why don't they just put a vote to the house to cancel Brexit? Labour will be fooked in an election so they are trying to swerve that. Still no solution being offered.
It's a shame the EU don't want to get blamed for us leaving but it would really help if they just said extension to Jan 31st and if you don't agree on a solution by then then leave with no deal by default. I can't see any other way of the deadlock being broken and the country slowly going down the pan because we are heading for FOUR YEARS of Brexit uncertainty.

I know it doesn't fit your narrative but the House actually voted for the WAB on its second reading, what it didn't agree with was the program motion that only allowed 3 days to debate before its 3rd. This isn't surprising as its a terrible deal but still probably would have squeaked through beacause none of the possible amendments would have won a majority.

The previous deal by Theresa May was rejected by her own side as well as the oppostion. It would have passed otherwise.

So rather than be patient the Government dropped the deal and has decided to waste the next month fighting another gamble of an election. Funny how we can have 3 general elections in the space of 4 years yet we cann't have a rerun of a still unresolved vote 3,5 years ago.

Weren't there supposed to be some riots today?

Hugh Watt wrote:

Weren't there supposed to be some riots today?

Badman Francois - the man who seems to be a cross between Mike from Spaced, and a live action Peter Griffen from Family Guy - will have his old TA fatigues on soon, I'm sure.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Brilliant piece of manoeuvring by the House yet again. Three more months to do what exactly? No deal? Already ruled out, Deal with EU, already voted down a deal for two PM's. Why don't they just put a vote to the house to cancel Brexit? Labour will be fooked in an election so they are trying to swerve that. Still no solution being offered.
It's a shame the EU don't want to get blamed for us leaving but it would really help if they just said extension to Jan 31st and if you don't agree on a solution by then then leave with no deal by default. I can't see any other way of the deadlock being broken and the country slowly going down the pan because we are heading for FOUR YEARS of Brexit uncertainty.

I know it doesn't fit your narrative but the House actually voted for the WAB on its second reading, what it didn't agree with was the program motion that only allowed 3 days to debate before its 3rd. This isn't surprising as its a terrible deal but still probably would have squeaked through beacause none of the possible amendments would have won a majority.

The previous deal by Theresa May was rejected by her own side as well as the oppostion. It would have passed otherwise.

So rather than be patient the Government dropped the deal and has decided to waste the next month fighting another gamble of an election. Funny how we can have 3 general elections in the space of 4 years yet we cann't have a rerun of a still unresolved vote 3,5 years ago.

Absolute tosh. The house didn't need more time to debate they needed more time to try and bin Brexit.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Weren't there supposed to be some riots today?

Theres been loads all up and down the country, the media have decided to not cover them due to their policy of only publishing Remainer protests.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Brilliant piece of manoeuvring by the House yet again. Three more months to do what exactly? No deal? Already ruled out, Deal with EU, already voted down a deal for two PM's. Why don't they just put a vote to the house to cancel Brexit? Labour will be fooked in an election so they are trying to swerve that. Still no solution being offered.
It's a shame the EU don't want to get blamed for us leaving but it would really help if they just said extension to Jan 31st and if you don't agree on a solution by then then leave with no deal by default. I can't see any other way of the deadlock being broken and the country slowly going down the pan because we are heading for FOUR YEARS of Brexit uncertainty.

I know it doesn't fit your narrative but the House actually voted for the WAB on its second reading, what it didn't agree with was the program motion that only allowed 3 days to debate before its 3rd. This isn't surprising as its a terrible deal but still probably would have squeaked through beacause none of the possible amendments would have won a majority.

The previous deal by Theresa May was rejected by her own side as well as the oppostion. It would have passed otherwise.

So rather than be patient the Government dropped the deal and has decided to waste the next month fighting another gamble of an election. Funny how we can have 3 general elections in the space of 4 years yet we cann't have a rerun of a still unresolved vote 3,5 years ago.

Absolute tosh. The house didn't need more time to debate they needed more time to try and bin Brexit.

So much so that they voted in favour the withdrawal agreement.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Brilliant piece of manoeuvring by the House yet again. Three more months to do what exactly? No deal? Already ruled out, Deal with EU, already voted down a deal for two PM's. Why don't they just put a vote to the house to cancel Brexit? Labour will be fooked in an election so they are trying to swerve that. Still no solution being offered.
It's a shame the EU don't want to get blamed for us leaving but it would really help if they just said extension to Jan 31st and if you don't agree on a solution by then then leave with no deal by default. I can't see any other way of the deadlock being broken and the country slowly going down the pan because we are heading for FOUR YEARS of Brexit uncertainty.

I know it doesn't fit your narrative but the House actually voted for the WAB on its second reading, what it didn't agree with was the program motion that only allowed 3 days to debate before its 3rd. This isn't surprising as its a terrible deal but still probably would have squeaked through beacause none of the possible amendments would have won a majority.

The previous deal by Theresa May was rejected by her own side as well as the oppostion. It would have passed otherwise.

So rather than be patient the Government dropped the deal and has decided to waste the next month fighting another gamble of an election. Funny how we can have 3 general elections in the space of 4 years yet we cann't have a rerun of a still unresolved vote 3,5 years ago.

Absolute tosh. The house didn't need more time to debate they needed more time to try and bin Brexit.

So much so that they voted in favour the withdrawal agreement.

FFS Hugh it was more filibustering by the remainers. Are you seriously suggesting it was Bojo scuppering his own deal? The House could have easily said that three days isn't enough give us a week, they didn't they wanted a delay until 31st of January, which they got, to give them more time for amendments and delays. If three and half years wasn't enough time what the feck will they achieve in the next three months? They have one agenda which is to stop Brexit but they can't admit as much as they would appear as the undemocratic wankers they all are.

This up coming election, on reflection, will be a tight one I believe and could be too close to call.

The parties are already squabbling with each other, while Donald Trump rings up the Farage show on LBC and has a right old dig at the deal Boris got, going on to say that if Farage and Boris get it together, they would walk it - LBC have held an interview with Trump, so most track that down on their app.

The dream team, Doris, Farge and Trump!

Trouble is with this election is the same as all elections, it's like a bush tucker trial, "would you like to eat either a) monkey shit b) bat shit or c) snake shit? I think lots of leavers will swing to Tories to get Brexit done and all the die hard Tory middle englanders even remainers would not be physically able to not vot Tory.

The only way the tories can lose this election is if hard of thinking leavers give their vote to the Brexit party. A lot of remainers will probably opt for the limp dims so it could be a case of who is the smarter of the two factions when it comes to the tactical vote....tory/brexit or lab/lib.

What sort of world do we live in when The Liberal Democrats decide to take legal action due to Joe - Swanson - Swinson is not being invited to the itv electoral debate.

SNP promise to put in a law to protect the NHS from privatisation at its launch of its election campaign.

What the actual feck?

Does he genuinely not know whats in his deal, is he lying through his teeth (again ) or is he drunk?

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VillageGreen wrote:

SNP promise to put in a law to protect the NHS from privatisation at its launch of its election campaign.

If they leave the UK they can set their own NHS up without the help of Westminster money.

zyph wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

SNP promise to put in a law to protect the NHS from privatisation at its launch of its election campaign.

If they leave the UK they can set their own NHS up without the help of Westminster money.

They aren't going to leave the UK. Johnson has ruled out another referendum on the topic

I say let them have their vote. She bangs on about how Scotland didn’t vote to leave the EU and how important it is that they are listened too. Well as far as I am concerned then it works both ways and all of the UK should have the vote.

zyph wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

SNP promise to put in a law to protect the NHS from privatisation at its launch of its election campaign.

If they leave the UK they can set their own NHS up without the help of Westminster money.

Just seen the headline that Sturgeon will back a minority Corbyn government but, with a list of must haves thrown in, including an indy ref II.

Did anyone watch QT, or listen to it on 5Live last night. The audience were about split on independence but, the SNP got a bit of a slating regarding the health service and education up that way.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I say let them have their vote. She bangs on about how Scotland didn’t vote to leave the EU and how important it is that they are listened too. Well as far as I am concerned then it works both ways and all of the UK should have the vote.

Grand idea be that. !!

There are still issues regarding an independent Scotland, the currency and economy are at the top - and that would also hit the rest of the UK.That is swiftly followed by concerns that Scotland will not get an easy entry into the EU but, rather become one of those countries put on the will join much later list.

The only chance she really has of an indy ref II is if Corbyn somehow manages to become PM next month or an alternative way of breaking away.

Regarding Brexit, I am wondering if The SNP are plotting on taking legal action in the event of Brexit taking place, I know that they have had meetings with EU officials over the past few months and behind closed doors, anything may have been said and agreed on ?.

I believe there are strict rules the EU have for countries to agree to if they want to join. A % of GDP spending has to be below a certain amount which I read that Scotland's is above that limit and I think they would have to join the euro.

I read yesterday that the leader of the Green Party, Caroline Lucas, was having a pop at Joe Swinson in a handbag sort of way. Lucas accused the Liberal Democrat leader of not giving a feck about those who voted to leave. Catfights are always the best !!

I thought the greens wanted to stop Brexit and cancel article 50 as well as the liberal un Democratic Party.