EXETER RELEGATION THREAD UPDATED.

I emailed him, no response.

We seem very light on our red friends at the moment.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

We seem very light on our red friends at the moment.

Is that a sense of relief or a sense of longing?

Grace Less wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

We seem very light on our red friends at the moment.

Is that a sense of relief or a sense of longing?

i must say your play off final was the comic relief this country needed during these dark times.

Grace Less wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

We seem very light on our red friends at the moment.

Is that a sense of relief or a sense of longing?

Depends. If you all have the morals of ‘Geezer’ then most definitely the former.

It depends on which sense you use the noun 'moral' are you defining it as ' a lesson that can be derived from a story or experience' or 'standards of behaviour; principles of right and wrong'? If the latter I'm unable to speak for the person concerned, but suggest that you might put it down to the former use.

Grace Less wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

We seem very light on our red friends at the moment.

Is that a sense of relief or a sense of longing?

Neither. It’s good to hear from the less fortunate of this world.

Grace Less wrote:

It depends on which sense you use the noun 'moral' are you defining it as ' a lesson that can be derived from a story or experience' or 'standards of behaviour; principles of right and wrong'? If the latter I'm unable to speak for the person concerned, but suggest that you might put it down to the former use.

From my perspective the moral sense of Geezer is that he’s a spineless git whose welched on a bet and has deprived the Rowcroft Hospice of some useful and needy funds, does that make it clearer for you.

Graiser wrote:

From my perspective the moral sense of Geezer is that he’s a spineless git whose welched on a bet and has deprived the Rowcroft Hospice of some useful and needy funds, does that make it clearer for you.

I am sorry. and I honestly think that he was not so much 'spineless' as he was emotionally vulnerable, confused yet brilliant.
This, of course does nothing to redress the loss to the Rowcroft Hospice, which, should I ever meet him, or indeed unravel who he is, I will certainly upbraid him about and suggest that he makes an adequate donation. Can we get back to the subject of the thread?

note to greeks who may pop up tonight


chiefs won the rugby european cup good for them worked hard for it. however your team struggled to hold walsall to a 0-0 draw these are the facts of life and we dont give you a free pass to bandwagon jump on the chiefs winning to give it the biggun as if that excuses your shite football team .

The Under 16's of 'your shite football team' won the EFL Floodlight Trophy against Crewe last night. A name to look out for - Sonny Cox.

Grace Less wrote:

The Under 16's of 'your shite football team' won the EFL Floodlight Trophy against Crewe last night. A name to look out for - Sonny Cox.

Awfully sorry old chap to be so pedantic but you surely mean “your shite football team” as in yours not ours, your grammar is absolutely terrible, get a grip man.

I’m just surprised you haven’t won L2 as well as you normally claim it this time of the year.

Glad to have your pedantry. You might note that Angry was the person whose quote was used, and, of course I have nothing but admiration for the way in which your illustrious team are conquering League One. I doubt that Exeter City will actually win League Two this year, but the Club is laying the foundation of having a sustainable future without the need to rely on external funding, and developing a system that produces players who go on to successful careers in higher leagues, most of whom have their roots firmly based in Devon and who regularly provide further funding for our 'shite football team'.

Grace Less wrote:

Glad to have your pedantry. You might note that Angry was the person whose quote was used, and, of course I have nothing but admiration for the way in which your illustrious team are conquering League One. I doubt that Exeter City will actually win League Two this year, but the Club is laying the foundation of having a sustainable future without the need to rely on external funding, and developing a system that produces players who go on to successful careers in higher leagues, most of whom have their roots firmly based in Devon and who regularly provide further funding  for our 'shite football team'.

you desperately need more money going into your club otherwise you'll never go anywhere but league 2 play offs.

When did Argyle last have the kind of payback that Exeter City have had from their investment in Ollie Watkins? Asking for a friend.

Grace Less wrote:

When did Argyle last have the kind of payback that Exeter City have had from their investment in Ollie Watkins? Asking for a friend.

selling your youth is literally your only income that's not going to sustain to the point you can build foundations to move up the leagues that money goes on debts.

Grace Less wrote:

When did Argyle last have the kind of payback that Exeter City have had from their investment in Ollie Watkins? Asking for a friend.

Prior to Ollie Watkins, when have you ever had that same level of recompense before?

Think Watkins must be their highest, they would have got some cash for selling Grimes and Ampadu, and I would guess they have sell on clauses.

We've got Jack Stephens at Southampton with a 10 or 20% clause. Think he was last valued around £10m. Probably have one for Christian Walton (Brighton) too, who must be worth a couple of million after several loans to Championship clubs.

Its no surprise to anyone that Argyle are currently behind Exeter in youth development, but we are starting to put the right people and processes in place to improve our academy. People like Neil Dewsnip (Technical Director) who has vast experience of youth development at Everton and was Technical Lead for England u17 - u21 teams from 2014 - 2019. We are also using the loan system for our youngsters better- Jephcott had a good spell at Truro and now is the highest scoring u21 player in the 4 english divisions, also has one of the best goals to games ratios as well.

Czarcasm wrote:

[ Prior to Ollie Watkins, when have you ever had that same level of recompense before?

On the level of the Watkins payment, probably never. However, as is noted elsewhere there were substantial payments for both Grimes and Ampadu (potentially more to come from that source) and this season City have sowed seed with the sale of both Chrisene to Aston Villa and Stansfield to Fulham. Just to correct another error in the thread City are completely debt free - one only two clubs in the EFL that are still debt free - Scunthorpe thought they were until they were landed with a 2m bill from a former owner. As to Youth development there were 5 home grown players in the last starting line up and several of the previously mentioned U16's have a string of Premiership Clubs looking at them.

Chemical Ali wrote:

Think Watkins must be their highest, they would have got some cash for selling Grimes and Ampadu, and I would guess they have sell on clauses.

We've got Jack Stephens at Southampton with a 10 or 20% clause. Think he was last valued around £10m. Probably have one for Christian Walton (Brighton) too, who must be worth a couple of million after several loans to Championship clubs.

Its no surprise to anyone that Argyle are currently behind Exeter in youth development, but we are starting to put the right people and processes in place to improve our academy. People like Neil Dewsnip (Technical Director) who has vast experience of youth development at Everton and was Technical Lead for England u17 - u21 teams from 2014 - 2019. We are also using the loan system for our youngsters better- Jephcott had a good spell at Truro and now is the highest scoring u21 player in the 4 english divisions, also has one of the best goals to games ratios as well.

A workmate of mine is a City fan. He said the Watkins sell-on stands head and shoulders above anything else their Academy has produced. The Ampadu transfer went to a compensation tribunal and City only got £1.3m with a possible extra £1.2m if add-ons ever happen. And the Grimes transfer was £1.7m.

There's a lot to be said for sell-on fees. If Stapleton & Co hadn't run us into Admin ten years ago, we'd have been in a position to negotiate a sell on % for Bolasie....who later went to Everton for £26m

Grace Less wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

[ Prior to Ollie Watkins, when have you ever had that same level of recompense before?

 On the level of the Watkins payment, probably never. However, as is noted elsewhere there were substantial payments for both Grimes and Ampadu (potentially more to come from that source) and this season City have sowed seed with the sale of both Chrisene to Aston Villa and Stansfield to Fulham. Just to correct another error in the thread City are completely debt free - one only two clubs in the EFL that are still debt free - Scunthorpe thought they were until they were landed with a 2m bill from a former owner. As to Youth development there were 5 home grown players in the last starting line up and several of the previously mentioned U16's have a string of Premiership Clubs looking at them.

Commendable Gracie. It must be demoralising though that the net result of all that Academy work finance is a Joe Soap 4th division club with occasional forays into non-league and the odd halcyon season in League 1.

Exeter shit and no fans, bit like pasoti.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Exeter shit and no fans, bit like pasoti.

Could you try to produce banter rather than relying on simple abuse? Or perhaps you're just framing your replies in the Kantian notion of the wrongness of using another human being as means to an end.

Czarcasm wrote:

Chemical Ali wrote:

Think Watkins must be their highest, they would have got some cash for selling Grimes and Ampadu, and I would guess they have sell on clauses.

We've got Jack Stephens at Southampton with a 10 or 20% clause. Think he was last valued around £10m. Probably have one for Christian Walton (Brighton) too, who must be worth a couple of million after several loans to Championship clubs.

Its no surprise to anyone that Argyle are currently behind Exeter in youth development, but we are starting to put the right people and processes in place to improve our academy. People like Neil Dewsnip (Technical Director) who has vast experience of youth development at Everton and was Technical Lead for England u17 - u21 teams from 2014 - 2019. We are also using the loan system for our youngsters better- Jephcott had a good spell at Truro and now is the highest scoring u21 player in the 4 english divisions, also has one of the best goals to games ratios as well.

A workmate of mine is a City fan. He said the Watkins sell-on stands head and shoulders above anything else their Academy has produced. The Ampadu transfer went to a compensation tribunal and City only got £1.3m with a possible extra £1.2m if add-ons ever happen. And the Grimes transfer was £1.7m.

There's a lot to be said for sell-on fees. If Stapleton & Co hadn't run us into Admin ten years ago, we'd have been in a position to negotiate a sell on % for Bolasie....who later went to Everton for £26m

we lost out on fees and add ons with our young players since admin too. The only one we got anything for when he left was Hourihane when he was signed by Villa due to him being here in his development years.

Grace Less wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Exeter shit and no fans, bit like pasoti.

Could you try to produce banter rather than relying on simple abuse? Or perhaps you're just framing your replies in the Kantian notion of the wrongness of using another human being as means to an end.

Not abuse just facts sweetheart, exeter have spent more years in the fourth division than any other efl club mainly due to their crap support i would imagine. Also how come none of the Watkins millions have been spent on the bog standard going nowhere donkey squad? or has it be trousered on vital club management costs? If you do find this offensive, please feel free to fvck off to another clubs forum.