EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath...

I’d sooner provoke than revoke

No deal looking good.

I hope so but having Tommy Robinson gobbing off in Parliament Square does not help Leavers

I hope so but having Tommy Robinson gobbing off in Parliament Square does not help Leavers

Enough of the T word Graiser Franny will be frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog as it is. I think it's fifty fifty whether the EU tell us to feck off or get a deal by April 12th or just drop out.

A general election is now a possible scenario to break the deadlock ?.

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Just wondering how many MP's raced back to their local area to ask their supporters which way they should vote in parliament?

Just wondering how many MP's raced back to their local area to ask their supporters which way they should vote in parliament?

Funny as feck this.

Jacob Rees Mogg, a hero to many . Claims the deal was akin to slavery. Votes for it.

Boris Johnson invokes Moses, gets told he might get a Crack at the leadership. Votes for the deal.

Dominic Raab resigns as brexit secretary over the deal he negotiated , votes for it.

Still defeated.

Units think this could have been our 35th minute of FREEDOM!

Hugh Watt wrote:

Funny as feck this.

Jacob Rees Mogg, a hero to many . Claims the deal was akin to slavery. Votes for it.

Boris Johnson invokes Moses, gets told he might get a Crack at the leadership. Votes for the deal.

Dominic Raab resigns as brexit secretary over the deal he negotiated , votes for it.

Still defeated.

These three and a few others voting for Mays deal is the clearest sign yet that they are obviously shitting it that Brexit could totally collapse.

Knob jockeys, the lot of them.

The latest denial of TMs deal certainly didnt do Sterling any favours and am offside somewhat on several currency trades.
If it breaks $1.282 I'll be doing a Lord Lucan

VillageGreen wrote:

A general election is now a possible scenario to break the deadlock ?.

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I don’t know how a GE would solve anything, there’ll be a big %age of the current cretins being voted back, with the same old arguments.
It’ll be interesting to see how the EU responds to this as their default position is a no deal exit on April 12th, so let’s see if they have the balls for that because they’ll have their own issues/businesses etc to deal with, so I don’t think they’ll be keen on that, with the exception of that tosspot Macron

Hugh Watt wrote:

Funny as feck this.

Jacob Rees Mogg, a hero to many . Claims the deal was akin to slavery. Votes for it.

Boris Johnson invokes Moses, gets told he might get a Crack at the leadership. Votes for the deal.

Dominic Raab resigns as brexit secretary over the deal he negotiated , votes for it.

Still defeated.

Has this come as a surprise to you? I love the way the remainers are all pointing fingers at the top Tories and laughing your heads off at their sheer incompetetance and lack of moral fibre whilst in complete denial that they are supporting literally hundreds more incompetatant and immoral MPs whilst they butcher what's left of our democratic process. People need to lose their tunnel vision and toss off their Brexit blinkers and wake the feck up. It's not just JRM, Bojo, Raab and Gove that are useless self serving pricks its the whole feckin lot of them.
If we can't agree on that point what point is there in any discussion?

Watching the hilarious Franki Boyle last night and discovered where Frannie stole his All racists voted for Brexit argument from, it was Will Self on Question time or summat. Anyway I knew Franny wasn't clever enough to work that one out for himself.

Katie Adler nails it IMO.

Despite all the drama, the money and time spent by EU leaders on Brexit (summits, dedicated governmental departments, no-deal planning) and all the hard, hard graft put in by the EU and UK negotiating teams, Europe's leaders are asking themselves what there is to show for it all.
Ongoing Brexit divisions in Parliament, in government and in Theresa May's cabinet were on screaming technicolour display again last week.
EU leaders used to use the threat of a no-deal Brexit as a negotiating tactic (as did the UK). They now believe it to be a very real prospect.
That has led to a number of countries - notably France - questioning the logic of delaying Brexit for much longer.
They wonder if the UK will ever unite around a Brexit Way Forward - be it a softer Brexit, no deal or no Brexit.
Would a Brexit extension, allowing for a general election or a second referendum, really settle the issue, they ask?

Earwegoagain wrote:

Katie Adler nails it IMO.

Despite all the drama, the money and time spent by EU leaders on Brexit (summits, dedicated governmental departments, no-deal planning) and all the hard, hard graft put in by the EU and UK negotiating teams, Europe's leaders are asking themselves what there is to show for it all.
Ongoing Brexit divisions in Parliament, in government and in Theresa May's cabinet were on screaming technicolour display again last week.
EU leaders used to use the threat of a no-deal Brexit as a negotiating tactic (as did the UK). They now believe it to be a very real prospect.
That has led to a number of countries - notably France - questioning the logic of delaying Brexit for much longer.
They wonder if the UK will ever unite around a Brexit Way Forward - be it a softer Brexit, no deal or no Brexit.
Would a Brexit extension, allowing for a general election or a second referendum, really settle the issue, they ask?

No it wouldn’t, no deal exit ASAP please.

Apart from anything else Cameron stood on a platform of elect me and I'll hold a referendum on Europe with a simple in or out question. He then stood down after not getting his deal and allowed the Maybot to step into his shoes and against all the odds try and get support for the deal that Cameron couldn't get. She then got reelected in general election although with reduced majority to have another stab at it. If we have another election I'm positive that the tories will get reelected IF they say they will get us out of the EU. But then the MPs won't allow this. Broken politics simple as.

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VillageGreen wrote:

A general election is now a possible scenario to break the deadlock ?.

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I don’t know how a GE would solve anything, there’ll be a big %age of the current cretins being voted back, with the same old arguments.
It’ll be interesting to see how the EU responds to this as their default position is a no deal exit on April 12th, so let’s see if they have the balls for that because they’ll have their own issues/businesses etc to deal with, so I don’t think they’ll be keen on that, with the exception of that tosspot Macron

More shanningans on Monday when the indicative votes process goes to round two, Bradon Lewis, Conservative Party chairman, said that the government did not support the options offered.

May is looking at trying for a fourth time to get her deal through.

I don't think the EU have the balls to go for a no deal. It would hurt them more than us.

The  EU leaders say one thing and then do the opposite. One of the early arguments leading up to the in/ out vote was the idea of an Euro army which they all denied was going to happen. 2 years or so down the line and they are talking about it happening. More recently the PM of Hungary said he would vote no to any extension to A50 but low and behold he said yes.

I personally would go for no deal, that way we save billions of pounds going the EU which can be used for this country and only this country and it gives us a blank canvas for a trade deal with them and the rest of the world.

As for rights of EU citizens in this country why should they have a better deal than anyone else (something the EU have said consistently about Britain and a trade deal)? They should have the same rules as someone from the USA / Asia / Australia / NZ etc wanting to live here.

As for the EU Court they can feck off because we would be an independent country. They have no say in other countries like the USA, South Africa, Brazil etc.

As for EU laws on working rights, food standards, environmental issues etc they have all been passed into British law. We have the opportunity to ditch the bad ones and keep the good ones. This could be done by a cross party group of those useless self serving cnuts from that old building by the Thames with the big clock, sorry I mean MPs. That way it would stop any arguments (or not) about the Government having to much power to change things. If at a date a few years down the line the EU change something in one of these laws that we have decided to keep then it could be looked at by the same useless self serving cnuts and if it is good for this country then change it accordingly.

We don't need a backstop for NI and the Republic.

All goods going to NI from mainland Britain go via NI ports and vice a versa.

All goods going to the Republic from mainland Britain go via Republic ports and vice a versa.

All goods going to the Republic from NI go via the non existent boarder and vice a versa.

I would also stop all migrants from registering in NI to stop the French from organising away day trips of the people they are desperate to get rid of from the camps around their ports.

I don't know if the above is achievable or not, it is a very basic idea on solving the question of the backstop. I'm sure there are practical issues, which the general public like us have no idea of, that would need to be addressed for it to happen.

I am of the firm belief that the EU is well on its way to big trouble when it comes to the migrants, citizens rights, the PIGS, employment and trade between member states. You just have to look at the yellow shirt protests in France. These problems have been 'kicked down the road' for far longer than May's 'Brexit can' and will cost them far more than money. Maybe the EU itself.

I know a lot of people think Trump is a complete cnut and a joke, me included, but he has shown more loyalty and faith in this country than a lot of the remainer cnuts in parliament, in the civil service, the media and our entertainment businesses. If I had the power the first thing I would do when we leave would be to remove the 'Sir' title from Geldof and issue an exclusion notice on the cnut.

I hope when we have left the EU that the Government will issue a statement that any country that leaves the EU after us will get a good trade deal from us.

As for the EU election coming up Britain should refuse to be part of it because we have voted to leave and it is only because of useless self serving cnuts feckin it all up that we are still in.

As for the hard border in NI, the Northern Irish don't want it, the UK doesn't want it, The Southern Irish don't want it and the EU doesn't want it. Why then cannot we find a way to run it ie. like we have run our border with the EU for years now? We have never had a frictionless border with the EU, you can travel all over the EU without borders until you get to Blighty then we have a border which is exactly the same as in Ireland except we have a twenty mile stretch of water between us. Where there's a will there a way.

Watching BBC P and Ken Clarke is debating his motion C, a customs union. The SNP and DUP are against it and have expressed their concerns. The house is not full, plenty of empty spaces.

Peter Kyle now and option E, a confirmatory public vote.

The other options are :-

Motion A: Unilateral right of exit from backstop
Proposer: John Baron, Conservative

Motion B: No deal in the absence of a withdrawal agreement
Proposer: John Baron, Conservative

Motion D: 'Common Market 2.0'
Proposer: Nick Boles, Conservative

Motion F: Public vote to prevent no deal
Proposers: Graham Jones, Labour, and Dominic Grieve, Conservative

Motion G: Parliamentary supremacy
Proposer: Joanna Cherry, Scottish National

Motion H: EFTA and EEA
Proposer: George Eustice, Conservative

And May can ignore all of it.

Bastards the lot of them, I hope their balls fester and drop off!

Graiser wrote:

Bastards the lot of them, I hope their balls fester and drop off!

.....and that's just the female MP's.