UK driving licences invalid in Europe after Brexit

Actually I always thought they were invalid everywhere without being backed up by the IDP ?? Certainly are in Asia anyway

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You can use your UK driving license without an IDP in any EU/EEA country. Its one of the many things that wasn't mentioned when everyone was eager for £350 million a week to be given to the NHS and Blue passports.

Don't need an IDP in Aussie either.

Ive never driven since I passed my test about 20 years ago.

And funnily enough got pulled by the police in India which I'm pretry sure is in Asia just this morning. Bike papers and licence asked for checked and told thank you sir take care and on my way. Had same in Africa and Thailand.
As for Europe usual belly aching and scaremongering by the usual suspects. If we are refused licences in EU then we reciprocate so the hundreds of thousands if not a couple of millon euros can't drive either. Who's gonna drive yer taxi Huge?

Earwegoagain wrote:

And funnily enough got pulled by the police in India which I'm pretry sure is in Asia just this morning. Bike papers and licence asked for checked and told thank you sir take care and on my way. Had same in Africa and Thailand.
As for Europe usual belly aching and scaremongering by the usual suspects. If we are refused licences in EU then we reciprocate so the hundreds of thousands if not a couple of millon euros can't drive either. Who's gonna drive yer taxi Huge?

I thought after Brexit all the foreigners were going to go home and it will be English jobs for English people. :

So no arguments in the thread that you started? Do you think that no one from the EU drove in Europe before we joined the club? Your arguments are non existent and typical of fifty per cent of the population who will whinge cry and moan hoping that we go to the dogs whilst pragmatists like myself just carry on and make things work. Don't worry ive always been a charitable person and happy to carry those less able than myself.

Brexiteers pragmatists ? Now that is funny given
They couldn't even handle a few immigrants. Mass panic.
You're right in one sense though, pragmatism will win, nowt will change as the same system will be deployed. Maybe a little tinkering here and there on the normal partisan basis now that there will be a brand new making Britain great excuse in town
. In the meantime I too will pragmatically keep voting with my feet. No future waiting for someone else to tell me what to do and how to do it,especially that Westminster bunch with their subsidised boozers.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

And funnily enough got pulled by the police in India which I'm pretry sure is in Asia just this morning. Bike papers and licence asked for checked and told thank you sir take care and on my way. Had same in Africa and Thailand.
As for Europe usual belly aching and scaremongering by the usual suspects. If we are refused licences in EU then we reciprocate so the hundreds of thousands if not a couple of millon euros can't drive either. Who's gonna drive yer taxi Huge?

I thought after Brexit all the foreigners were going to go home and it will be English jobs for English people. :

Its all been a jolly jape seeing how completely useless politicians are.
Tell the eu to do one.

Politicians just reflect those they represent. Many are useless, some aren't.
The country is split, so are the politicians. Tht's how it is when you're in two minds.
Little will change, too much at stake for various powerful lobbies.
Other views are available.

No big deal is it ?

Anyone noticed how quiet the papers have been about Brexit since the Rooskies gassed Salisbury? Hardly a dicky bird this week, makes a change TBH but probably not the most desirable way to bring about a hiatus.

I'm unable to quote on my phone but going back to Bees observation about brexiteers, you are making a very bad generalisation saying that fifty percent of the population couldn't handle immigration. Shore it's a facet of the argument but if you actually talk to people in your home county most voted out because the EU money simply wasn't getting through to them.they want real jobs imigration isn't a massive problem in Kernow but real jobs just aren't there. Fobbing the population of a whole county off with idea that ice cream and pasties are the answers to everybody's employment needs resulted in the out vote massively and the amount of small fishermen left on the docks whilst the big name fishing firms got rich was another one. Also most small fishermen don't think post EU will be nirvana but they like me enjoyed putting two fingers up to the establishment, it's the only chance we've ever had. Hardly any racism in sight.
People should try looking at this argument as a multi faceted diamond instead of two sides of a coin. Huge can be excused with his inability to have a discus sion but I expect better of you Bees.

It’s blatantly obvious you are spoiling for an argument and TBH I can’t be fecked. Enjoy the rest of your weekend

Sorry Hugh but it's fair comment you drop the G bomb and bail out always.

I never needed any other then my British driving licence to drive in Germany and any other EU Country when I was station over there in the 60's and into the 70's. I drove tanks, 3 ton lorries and Land Rovers

It's a load of scaremongering from the usual suspects.

Earwegoagain wrote:

it's a facet of the argument but if you actually talk to people in your home county most voted out because the EU money simply wasn't getting through to them.they want real jobs imigration isn't a massive problem in Kernow but real jobs just aren't there. Fobbing the population of a whole county off with idea that ice cream and pasties are the answers to everybody's employment needs resulted in the out vote massively and the amount of small fishermen left on the docks whilst the big name fishing firms got rich was another one.

I'm ashamed to say the further West you go, the worse racism becomes, sadly. West Penwith has a lot to offer, but a certain attitude is not it's best advert.
I agree with some of what you say re underlying tensions and disaffected people, and on Brexit, you're right that racism is overplayed, but it is a vehicle being used by the usual suspects and is on the increase. And the whole subject is part of the return of nationalism and protectionism that is happenning everywhere, even across the pond. That is never a good thing. I thought capitalism was supposed to be in to the idea of free markets. Obviously another lie. The EU isn't a free market to outsiders, and nor will UK Plc be a free for all market when it opens it's doors for business. Can't be arsed to repeat all the old Brexit arguments as I was, and still am, agnostic about the whole thing. It doesn't address the real issues, as people will slowly find out after the fireworks die down and standards of living continue to fall for the mass of people.

It was your pragmatism comment that stood out for me, as I'm the pragmatic sort too, very much so, and feeds into my "green" beliefs, politics and sustainable life, wherever you find yourself at the time. Sadly, though, most city slickers don't have the choices and resillience that a more "rural" life gives the country hick. Resillience is more common in the country, haul in the wood, make sure your food keeps growing, keep the roof sound. Small parcels of land are a life sustaining resource that don't disappear overnight. Paid jobs do, these days within an hour or a quick phone call. Rural communities have resources that are resillient at a basic level and that gives an underlying insurance. On the whole, most city dwellers, even the better off ones, don't have those bottom line fall backs, are vulnerable to the slightest puff of economic ill wind or disruption, and consequently have quite a different mind set.  For anyone to imply that some people just aren't  "pragmatic" enough is to miss the very nature of how city life functions, and it's extreme "just in time" inter connected systems. Hey, an hour of snow last week and the shelves were empty. No generator in the garage when the lecky goes down, in fact, no garage. No neighbour with machinery to save the day, just a lift that doesn't work and 20 flights of stairs to negotiate as the pod drones of the new North Cross roundabout student block are finding out on a daily basis.

And anyway how will we fill the shelves with all those globally produced foodstuffs pick them up at the end of the tunnel? Every other lorry these days is European driving on huge tanks of cheap diesel bought on the other side. Anything to declare? Lmfao.

Could it be that the problem isn't their cheap diesel but the price we pay for ours?

In a nutshell there you have the whole problem: denial and displacement of responsibility.

It isn't EU policy for our fuels to be priced as they are, our trains to be as expensive as they are or much of the rest of it.

What it is is a direct result of the "low taxation" (with regards to income tax and not, for example, VAT or duty) which everybody, well not me but us as a country, seems to be so in favour of.

We have a housing crisis because governments have compelled councils to sell council houses, we have a shortage of new housing because councils are virtually forbidden from building any and the private sector would soon sit on undeveloped land than actually do anything with it, we have an insane utilities structure because it was all privatised and so it all goes on and none of it is EU induced.

Even immigration, currently about 500,000 net into the UK per annum, could be cut immediately by roughly half, EU directives or no EU directives, simply by stopping all non-EU immigration. The powers are in place to do it, should we so wish, right now. Has it been done? No. Why not? Because pragmatism takes over and despite the "cut immigration to tens of thousands" (still far too high for some) rhetoric nothing has been done to even begin to achieve it.

Nor will it be. When we go to, say, India and try to negotiate some sort of trade deal the first thing they'll ask for is the freedom for their citizens to come to the UK. Deny it and there's no deal. And that will apply to every single country we approach.

Nope we, well not me but us as a country, have swallowed a pack of lies hook, line and sinker. The problems besetting this country are not as a result of EU anything but a direct result of the frankly hopeless political strategies we, well not me but us as a country, have voted for.

Thanks for clearing that up Frank.

Les Miserable wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up Frank.

Yep, whatever would we do without him and Beezy telling us all how it really is(n't)...

Probably be putting up with you manking on, telling us lesser mortals what a trustworthy man the new "owner" is.
Twiddling your thumbs over there ? suddenly interested in the great EU debate LOL ? Or have you been lying in the grass waiting for your traditional prey to come out for a bit of a breather ?
Looking for a trolling spat on your old keyboard ? Fine, I'm free for an hour, but make it quick.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Hook, line and sinker...

I have one aim where you are concerned. To harass as you harass others. Any pointless questions to ask today ? Would you like to know how brexit is proceeding ?