Stickergate banning

alannotivvy wrote:

Punchy,Now that things have calmed down a bit,  would you be able to post here what actually happened and what was said by the stewards and Slasher.

Think that would be a good idea but maybe difficult if police involved

I wouldn't expect the police to be in the slightest bit interested in this.

The Crown is never going to prosecute someone over such a small amount although it might press for a caution just to bury the matter.

It is a civil matter at best/worst.

alannotivvy wrote:

Punchy,Now that things have calmed down a bit,  would you be able to post here what actually happened and what was said by the stewards and Slasher.

I get into the ground, get to our seats put the sticker on, put it on fb and within about 10 minutes a steward came up to our area and said "hi chaps would you mind coming down for a word". This was a total of 3 of us, why the other 2 of my mates got dragged down I have no idea.
Anyway we get down there and JB is there waiting for us. He asked to see the season ticket I used to get in, obviously you know the deal on that one and I'm not going to put anything else in the public domain that will get me more into the poo.
He explains that it's a fraudulent offence that constitutes a banning, I told him that I thought I was being deliberatly stitched up but not much else to be fair and thank goodness i didnt because the more I said the more it would get used against me. I left peacefully of my own accord and made that phone call to you mate, it must have been 15.10 by that stage?

JB himself getting stuck in.. Geddon!

Rickler wrote:

JB himself getting stuck in..  Geddon!

Jon Back, I believe that was.
Good to see him back to good health.
Obviously didn't receive a feather from any ATDer.

A man in meltdown wrote:
The ticker has been made to cause major problems when taking it off Ollie.

The once placed outside my house has damaged the lamppost, it's made of early breakable metal and with some sort of superglue on on the backside of it.

If one of them ended up on a car, it would cause major damage.

WTF is early breakable metal?

Me thinks the predictive text was on!
Easily breakable metal?

And good to see that the mention of the car has been put out there already.
So that when he gets a sticker, puts it on his own car, and then plays the 'Look at what those vile and nasty people have done now' victim card, all the weeping and wailing from the silent majority will be all worthwhile.

it's what lamp posts are made of, you cnut.

Punchdrunk wrote:

getting slaughtered aint i

Getting slaughtered by White Feather Nool, Greenman Delar, Ollie arsehole an handful of serial Bumrinsers plus various multi's is nothing to worry about, they go after a genuine fan because it deflects away from Brents dogshit squad picking up six points from thirty nine, Brent is the one that needs evicting along with his fan club.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

getting slaughtered aint i

Getting slaughtered by White Feather Nool, Greenman Delar, Ollie arsehole an handful of serial Bumrinsers plus various multi's is nothing to worry about, they go after a genuine fan because it deflects away from Brents dogshit squad picking up six points from thirty nine, Brent is the one that needs evicting along with his fan club.

Getting slaughtered by people who can't even be bothered to check some basic facts (like what we have done on here today) means nothing.

And Suffered's right - what a very useful distraction from the results, the mankover, the hybrid planning application, the accounts and all the rest.

Peggy wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

getting slaughtered aint i

Getting slaughtered by White Feather Nool, Greenman Delar, Ollie arsehole an handful of serial Bumrinsers plus various multi's is nothing to worry about, they go after a genuine fan because it deflects away from Brents dogshit squad picking up six points from thirty nine, Brent is the one that needs evicting along with his fan club.

Getting slaughtered by people who can't even be bothered to check some basic facts (like what we have done on here today) means nothing.

And Suffered's right - what a very useful distraction from the results, the mankover, the hybrid planning application, the accounts and all the rest.

Zackly Peggy, Nool and his collection of sad fvcks have spent all day get exicited and sending out for extra tissues, but the real issue should be the shit state of the club on and off the field and Brent and Hallets grubby little anti Argyle Anti plymouth plans.

A lot of fans still don't quite believe we can possibly be as shit as we are and that, even with by far the worst set of players in the bottom 2 divisions, Argo will somehow turn it around. That is currently saving brent from getting a lot of anger directed his way at matches. But as we go into the business end of the season after the Xmas defeats and we're still miles adrift at the bottom things will begin to get pretty unpleasant for brent. All the internet based diversionary tactics in the world won't help brent then.

Will these totally offensive stickers appear tomorrow?

Do anyone know where this facility is?

The PADSA Lounge

Plymouth Argyle FC , in joint venture with PADSA and the Green Taverners, are delighted to be able offer the PADSA lounge facility for season 2017-18.  This is an informal space situated behind the Main Grandstand where disabled supporters can meet before the match and at half time. The facility will be open for 90 minutes prior to every home match and includes live Sky TV or streaming of the match.

I found out the lounge is a portakabin

Rickler wrote:

JB himself getting stuck in..  Geddon!

So he is stamping his feet lol Hope he doesn't try his luck elsewhere. These things tend to escalate.

The ticket rules (except for pasoti who can do what they want)

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Rickler wrote:

The ticket rules (except for pasoti who can do what they want)

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Hi Ricks
Love you and love your logo. The fact remains they got prior authorization to do what they do.

It would "appear" that PD didn't.

And it would "appear" he left himself hung up to dry.

Sorry, that's not smart...

If you're not smart, you will win feck all.

I wait to see what I've missed.

Love you and your "Logo" too, Shonbo!

I was only jesting... Although, I somehow feel that if ATD wanted to buy a season ticket and dole it out to various members throughout the season, that the request would be denied!

Security reasons and all that...

Ticketing FAQ

IN response to inaccurate information being posted on various social media sites over the weekend, and also a significant number of enquiries being received by the club, the following aims to clarify Argyle’s ticketing policy.

None of the answers comprise new policy – they simply repeat and amplify information already available in ticketing T&Cs and other policy documents.

Season-tickets

Q: If I am unable to attend a home fixture, am I allowed to lend my season-ticket to a friend?
A: No. Season-tickets are not transferable and may only be used by the person whose details are on the card. However, if a season-ticket holder is unable to attend a match, it is possible to use the season-ticket to offset the cost of a match day ticket, for someone else, as follows:

An early-bird Adult Member pays approximately £15.50 per match (£357 divided by 23 games). The Ticket Office will deduct this from the cost of a match-day ticket meaning that an adult ticket bought prior to the day of the match would cost £5.50 (£21-£15.50) plus fees, and, on the day of the match, £7.50 plus fees.

Season-tickets bought at a different price will be treated in the same way, with the actual cost of the match-day ticket being rounded up to the nearest 50p or £1 to ease administration.

For example, a post early-bird Over-65 concession is £304. This could be transferred to a pre match-day adult ticket for £8 (£304 divided by 23 = £13.22; £21-13.22= £7.78; rounded up to £ plus fees, and, on the day of the match, £10 plus fees.

The Ticket Office will know how much a member has paid for their season-ticket and reduce the match-day ticket price by the appropriate amount. In order to take advantage of this facility, the season-ticket must be produced at the Ticket Office. A paper ticket will be issued and the season-ticket invalidated for that particular match.

Disabled Tickets – Pricing

Q: What are the ticketing arrangements for disabled people?
A: For wheelchair users in all areas of the ground, and for other disabled people wishing to sit in the Disabled Enclosure, a Season/Match-day ticket concession is available. Ambulant disabled people wishing to sit in other areas of the ground pay the full ticket price at the concession relevant to their age.

Disabled Tickets – Carer

Q: What are the qualifying criteria and conditions of use for a carer’s ticket?
A: In general, anyone in receipt of the higher rate of mobility or carer’s allowance is entitled to a free carer’s ticket. Anyone who does not meet the criteria for a complimentary carer’s ticket but genuinely needs the services of a carer to allow them to attend matches should contact the club to discuss their specific needs.

Complimentary carer’s tickets are issued for the sole purpose of enabling a disabled supporter to attend the match and are issued in the disabled person’s name. As such,they are not valid, and must not be used, if the disabled person does t attend the match.

Proof of age

Q: Why do I sometimes need to provide proof of age when collecting a season-ticket or match-day ticket?
A: Generous concessions are available for Over 65s, 18-21s, and Under-18s. In order to ensure that the correct concession is applied, and that the applicant is entitled to the concession, proof of ID and/or age may be requested by Ticket Office staff. Once this proof has been noted on our ticketing system, it will not normally be required to be produced in future seasons unless an application is made for a concession ticket that differs from the information held.

Refunds

Q: I have purchased match-day tickets in advance but have decided not to attend, or I am unable to attend – can I get a refund?
A: In normal circumstances we do not offer refunds. Instead, if the tickets are presented before the day of the fixture, we will exchange your tickets for ones for a future match. If you believe that exceptional circumstances have caused you to miss the match, please contact the club to discuss.

Ticket administration charges

Q: What administration charges apply to tickets?
A: A booking fee of £1.35 per ticket will be charged for all purchases apart from those made in person at the Home Park Ticket Office. In addition to booking fees, a postage & packing fee of £1 will be applied, where appropriate, to each purchase from the Ticket Office (not each ticket).

A booking fee of £1.35 will also apply to ‘print from home’ tickets. An administration fee of £2.50 per ticket will be charged if the club is subsequently asked to print the ticket. An administration fee of £2.50 per ticket will also be charged for reprints, lost match tickets and ground transfers.

An administration fee of £5 per ticket will be charged for replaced season-ticket membership cards.


Under-5 policy

Q: Do I have to pay for my child who is under five years old?
A: Genuine ‘babes in arms’ who are under five will be allowed in for free. However, it is no longer possible to reserve the seat adjacent to the purchased seat free of charge. If the under-five requires a seat, this must be purchased at the relevant concession (Under-18).

Tickets – misuse

Q: How does the club ensure that the ticket concessions are not abused?
A: Anti-fraud measures, including spot-checks, are used by the club to identify and prevent the misuse of tickets. The ticketing system allows us to see what tickets have been used on any given match-day and will indicate, for example, if a disabled carer’s ticket has been used but not the disabled person’s ticket.

Any person using a ticket that they are not entitled to faces ejection from the ground; the confiscation of their ticket; and a possible ban from the club. No refund will be given for a match-day ticket or season-ticket obtained using false information or being used by a person who is not entitled to use it. In certain circumstances, legal procedures may be instigated.



Contact details

Q: Who should I contact for any enquiries regarding ticket policy?

A: All ticket enquiries should be directed at the ticket office in the first instance. For enquiries outside the club’s set policy, contact Club Secretary Zac Newton (zac.newton@pafc.co.uk);for disability specific questions, contact Disability Liaison Officer Steph Barker (steph.barker@pafc.co.uk).

Tickets – misuse......another own goal by Argyle copy and pasted from above

Pray tell us Jon Back what time you approached Punchy in the stadium......??

"if a disabled carer’s ticket has been used but not the disabled person’s ticket".....

Are you claiming Back that you sat in a bloody control room monitoring Punchy alone waiting for a random chance for the disabled supporter not to make use of his ticket and thereby collared Punchy at kick off time lol...... You're not a wooden top anymore but if you were you know FULL well you would have had to leave the situation fluid to at least half time as clearly the disabled supporter could have been late for any multitude of reasons.

You collared the fella for stickers simple as you wanker but got a huge bonus over the ST.....you were also back peddling as a club as early as 8am Sunday morning....Yes you were !!

harvetheslayer wrote:

well you would have had to leave the situation fluid to at least half time as clearly the disabled supporter could have been late for any multitude of reasons.

Would one of them be, his Carer wasn't around to help him out?

Rickler wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

well you would have had to leave the situation fluid to at least half time as clearly the disabled supporter could have been late for any multitude of reasons.

Would one of them be, his Carer wasn't around to help him out?

Quite possibly. There could be a multitude of reasons they didnt arrive together or any other "matched couple" in a similar situation either for that matter.
Punchy was targetted in advance 110%. I know he was ! Punchy also knows how I know and also that I forwarded a suggestion received to possibly defuse the situation.

The magnificent idea of buying tickets for fans that couldn't afford to buy them themselves was actually my idea during admin and much applauded by Nool at the time who immediately hijacked the idea. I raised the point after my brother was going through some hard times after a messy divorce and was skint. He couldn't afford to go so I bought a season ticket and shared that out between my brother when he could go and a couple of mates that were skint as well, fantastic idea I was told.
Punchy was caught out but it hardly compares to all the shit the Chairmans REAL MATES get up to. As for the pasoti ticket being ok I really think we should try and buy an ATD one we would be told to feck right off.

What a ridiculous state of affairs. Anyone able to make head or tail of that official ticketing price strategy ? Brent and Starnes  solution fees, printing fees, admin charges, postage and packing !

As for the non transferable season ticket, it would appear many people each week are "defrauding" the club by not paying extra on a transferred friend's ticket, because lets face it, hardly anyone does that with a borrowed season ticket and never have. What's the betting the club won't touch that particular subject with a barge pole. Obviously the ticket irregularity isn't important unless there are other mitigating circumstances. Maybe the club could ask all season ticket holders to check up on their neighbours each week and dob in for fraud anyone who's not the usual season ticket holder. That would go down well. It's quite clear double standards are being practised here, and the club knows it. A witch hunt, no less.