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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 9:12 am

According to a PADSA member the club have been looking into this type of abuse for some time.

He wasn't able to tell me how many other people had been kicked out and banned for doing something similar.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 9:19 am

Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Hitch wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Incredible own goal yet again by Argyle. Huge threads on Freechat ATD and Pasoti where Newell once again digs that hole deeper and deeper and shows himself up.
Akagreengull makes the point the club is run by a nasty little spolit brat and its becoming a nasty club. Nailed it comletely

A simple infringement of a ST ticket is dealt with surely by the Club on the Monday with a letter saying look play by the rules or we will come down hard on you. End of discussion....(yes we know stickers were original reason for the tug)

What do they do but contact the Police and the Herald who promptly put it on the front page of the online version yesterday. Odds on its in the written one today somewhere.

The Clubs an utter shambles it really is. Newell for goodness sake wake up smell the coffee abort this ludicrous love in with Brent because if you did the wave of dissent against Brent will explode left right and centre.

Think of the older people Newell the young kids drowning in despair at the direction of this club. Make no mistake Ian you do that and lot of people would applaud you. Do it before its too late....

Do you REALLY believe that Brent is nastier than Newell? I just don't see it. There has been more damage to Brent's image by his continued association with Newell and Webb than by his non-developing asset stripping business methodology. Appealing to Newell and offering applause???? Jeez.

They are both nasty individuals and dont think for one moment think I'm naive.....
Brent is a very devious individual whereas Newell is simply thick. He knows his undying support is going to blow up in his face very shortly. The guy reaps huge kudos if he was to openly bin Brent simple as that. Highly unlikely to happen I agree

No he wouldn't. Abandoning his hero worship of one individual wouldn't undo all the things he's done over the years.

Still waiting for this proof that Saturday was all planned in advance, by the way. Not keen on all this "I know something you don't" shite.

You think I'm outing someone who clearly sits in at board meetings then think again. Thats being polite. Punchey was targetted and I quote "for online hatred and abuse"......the ST was a HUGE bonus for the Club and as it was pointed out to me subsequently "you better be squeaky clean if someone becomes involved in that"
The Club were back peddling at 8.18 yesterday morning and wanted it "closed down and nipped in the bud"......their own fault though for splashing it across the clubs website
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 9:21 am

Hi Peggy I have sent you a pm
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 9:22 am

Frank Bullitt wrote:
According to a PADSA member the club have been looking into this type of abuse for some time.


Yes they have
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 9:43 am

harvetheslayer wrote:
Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Hitch wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Incredible own goal yet again by Argyle. Huge threads on Freechat ATD and Pasoti where Newell once again digs that hole deeper and deeper and shows himself up.
Akagreengull makes the point the club is run by a nasty little spolit brat and its becoming a nasty club. Nailed it comletely

A simple infringement of a ST ticket is dealt with surely by the Club on the Monday with a letter saying look play by the rules or we will come down hard on you. End of discussion....(yes we know stickers were original reason for the tug)

What do they do but contact the Police and the Herald who promptly put it on the front page of the online version yesterday. Odds on its in the written one today somewhere.

The Clubs an utter shambles it really is. Newell for goodness sake wake up smell the coffee abort this ludicrous love in with Brent because if you did the wave of dissent against Brent will explode left right and centre.

Think of the older people Newell the young kids drowning in despair at the direction of this club. Make no mistake Ian you do that and lot of people would applaud you. Do it before its too late....

Do you REALLY believe that Brent is nastier than Newell? I just don't see it. There has been more damage to Brent's image by his continued association with Newell and Webb than by his non-developing asset stripping business methodology. Appealing to Newell and offering applause???? Jeez.

They are both nasty individuals and dont think for one moment think I'm naive.....
Brent is a very devious individual whereas Newell is simply thick. He knows his undying support is going to blow up in his face very shortly. The guy reaps huge kudos if he was to openly bin Brent simple as that. Highly unlikely to happen I agree

No he wouldn't. Abandoning his hero worship of one individual wouldn't undo all the things he's done over the years.

Still waiting for this proof that Saturday was all planned in advance, by the way. Not keen on all this "I know something you don't" shite.

You think I'm outing someone who clearly sits in at board meetings then think again. Thats being polite. Punchey was targetted and I quote "for online hatred and abuse"......the ST was a HUGE bonus for the Club and as it was pointed out to me subsequently "you better be squeaky clean if someone becomes involved in that"
The Club were back peddling at 8.18 yesterday morning and wanted it "closed down and nipped in the bud"......their own fault though for splashing it across the clubs website

Well if you're worried about outing a source it's best to say nowt, isn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 9:55 am

Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Hitch wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Incredible own goal yet again by Argyle. Huge threads on Freechat ATD and Pasoti where Newell once again digs that hole deeper and deeper and shows himself up.
Akagreengull makes the point the club is run by a nasty little spolit brat and its becoming a nasty club. Nailed it comletely

A simple infringement of a ST ticket is dealt with surely by the Club on the Monday with a letter saying look play by the rules or we will come down hard on you. End of discussion....(yes we know stickers were original reason for the tug)

What do they do but contact the Police and the Herald who promptly put it on the front page of the online version yesterday. Odds on its in the written one today somewhere.

The Clubs an utter shambles it really is. Newell for goodness sake wake up smell the coffee abort this ludicrous love in with Brent because if you did the wave of dissent against Brent will explode left right and centre.

Think of the older people Newell the young kids drowning in despair at the direction of this club. Make no mistake Ian you do that and lot of people would applaud you. Do it before its too late....

Do you REALLY believe that Brent is nastier than Newell? I just don't see it. There has been more damage to Brent's image by his continued association with Newell and Webb than by his non-developing asset stripping business methodology. Appealing to Newell and offering applause???? Jeez.

They are both nasty individuals and dont think for one moment think I'm naive.....
Brent is a very devious individual whereas Newell is simply thick. He knows his undying support is going to blow up in his face very shortly. The guy reaps huge kudos if he was to openly bin Brent simple as that. Highly unlikely to happen I agree

No he wouldn't. Abandoning his hero worship of one individual wouldn't undo all the things he's done over the years.

Still waiting for this proof that Saturday was all planned in advance, by the way. Not keen on all this "I know something you don't" shite.

You think I'm outing someone who clearly sits in at board meetings then think again. Thats being polite. Punchey was targetted and I quote "for online hatred and abuse"......the ST was a HUGE bonus for the Club and as it was pointed out to me subsequently "you better be squeaky clean if someone becomes involved in that"
The Club were back peddling at 8.18 yesterday morning and wanted it "closed down and nipped in the bud"......their own fault though for splashing it across the clubs website

Well if you're worried about outing a source it's best to say nowt, isn't it?

Or just edit the screenshots so they blank out the name and photo.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 10:04 am

Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Hitch wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Incredible own goal yet again by Argyle. Huge threads on Freechat ATD and Pasoti where Newell once again digs that hole deeper and deeper and shows himself up.
Akagreengull makes the point the club is run by a nasty little spolit brat and its becoming a nasty club. Nailed it comletely

A simple infringement of a ST ticket is dealt with surely by the Club on the Monday with a letter saying look play by the rules or we will come down hard on you. End of discussion....(yes we know stickers were original reason for the tug)

What do they do but contact the Police and the Herald who promptly put it on the front page of the online version yesterday. Odds on its in the written one today somewhere.

The Clubs an utter shambles it really is. Newell for goodness sake wake up smell the coffee abort this ludicrous love in with Brent because if you did the wave of dissent against Brent will explode left right and centre.

Think of the older people Newell the young kids drowning in despair at the direction of this club. Make no mistake Ian you do that and lot of people would applaud you. Do it before its too late....

Do you REALLY believe that Brent is nastier than Newell? I just don't see it. There has been more damage to Brent's image by his continued association with Newell and Webb than by his non-developing asset stripping business methodology. Appealing to Newell and offering applause???? Jeez.

They are both nasty individuals and dont think for one moment think I'm naive.....
Brent is a very devious individual whereas Newell is simply thick. He knows his undying support is going to blow up in his face very shortly. The guy reaps huge kudos if he was to openly bin Brent simple as that. Highly unlikely to happen I agree

No he wouldn't. Abandoning his hero worship of one individual wouldn't undo all the things he's done over the years.

Still waiting for this proof that Saturday was all planned in advance, by the way. Not keen on all this "I know something you don't" shite.

You think I'm outing someone who clearly sits in at board meetings then think again. Thats being polite. Punchey was targetted and I quote "for online hatred and abuse"......the ST was a HUGE bonus for the Club and as it was pointed out to me subsequently "you better be squeaky clean if someone becomes involved in that"
The Club were back peddling at 8.18 yesterday morning and wanted it "closed down and nipped in the bud"......their own fault though for splashing it across the clubs website

Well if you're worried about outing a source it's best to say nowt, isn't it?

lol you stick to what you know and I'll stick to what I do. You wont get a further rise out of me on this one.....out
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 10:08 am

Peggy wrote:
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It sounds like they're accusing Punchy of doing it all season.

Well if he has then he's been a bit of an idiot. I really hope that's not the case. Boycott the games but don't abuse the carer ticket concession as a matter of course - that's just not on in any reasonable person's make-up. Please, please let this be a one off with a good legitimate excuse - if it isn't then the own goal has been scored by Punchy I'm afraid.

I saw one post suggesting that it had been going on 'for years' - no evidence, of course, but as far as I can see it hasn't been challenged.

Some very sensible posts on this over there this morning, amazingly enough. Fact one: a disabled person's ST costs the same as any other full price adult ST. Fact two: if the disabled person needs a carer (and I gather they go through checks not dissimilar to those used by the DWP), the carer gets a free ST. So if the disabled person, as in this case, is too ill to go to the match, the carer who still goes is basically doing the same as anybody else who uses a mate's ST when the mate can't go. The seat's been paid for: it's just that somebody else is sitting in it.

I think some people are getting too hung up on the disabled / carer bit of this. Why is it allegedly an outrage to abuse this kind of ticket when apparently it's not an outrage to abuse any other kind of ticket?

Due to different information being posted elsewhere, I've just checked. Disabled supporters - wheelchair users, effectively - get a discounted price for STs in the disabled supporters' area. Any other disabled person, sitting anywhere else in the ground, pays full whack.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 10:46 am

I remember the Russian billionaire trying to totally stop the free carer concession at Chelsea.  But quite happy to c.ontinue doling out free corporate concessions. Nice bunch some football club owners. Many entertainments and resources have free carer entry for obvious reasons, and have done for decades. The same old rump of people want to stop all that along with other "disabled overheads"
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 11:05 am

Adult £357
Over 65 £272
18-21 £272
Armed Forces £272
Under 18 £96
Family £423
Additional Under 18 £66
Disabled £272

Disabled pricing applies to disabled Members sitting in the designated disabled stand and to wheelchair users in all areas of the stadium.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 11:19 am

Tgwu wrote:
Adult £357
Over 65 £272
18-21 £272
Armed Forces £272
Under 18 £96
Family £423
Additional Under 18 £66
Disabled £272

Disabled pricing applies to disabled Members sitting in the designated disabled stand and to wheelchair users in all areas of the stadium.  

But not to disabled fans sitting elsewhere, apart from the disabled Stand, and not using a wheelchair such as, perhaps, a blind person or somebody with learning difficulties?

Is that correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 11:26 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Tgwu wrote:
Adult £357
Over 65 £272
18-21 £272
Armed Forces £272
Under 18 £96
Family £423
Additional Under 18 £66
Disabled £272

Disabled pricing applies to disabled Members sitting in the designated disabled stand and to wheelchair users in all areas of the stadium.  

But not to disabled fans sitting elsewhere, apart from the disabled Stand, and not using a wheelchair such as, perhaps, a blind person or somebody with learning difficulties?

Is that correct?

Yes. If you don't use a wheelchair and don't sit in the disabled supporters' area, then you pay full whack, as comrade T&G has shown.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 11:46 am

Anyway as Ade the Akkeron points out its Brent's club not our club if we want to moan about Argyle we should do what Brent has done and put our hands in our pockets. LMFAO I have put way more money into the club than Brent has over the years.
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Fans who sits anywhere they wants are classed as Ambulant disabled

Ambulant disabled supporter are charged at the normal rate with a free carer if required.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 12:46 pm

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Anyway as Ade the Akkeron points out its Brent's club not our club if we want to moan about Argyle we should do what Brent has done and put our hands in our pockets. LMFAO I have put way more money into the club than Brent has over the years.

And of course, it's taken Brent up until recently to actually convert loans into ordinary shares. Such equity used to be standard practice from the off a generation ago. And just how much has his "underwriting" cost the club over the years, and how much have his other companies billed the club for this and that service? Impossible to tell, and I note figures released for last year are BEFORE interest payments. Any paying fan  will have contributed more non returnable money. He's NOT a philanthropist, he's a property speculator looking for the deal he has often said is there to be done.
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 1:00 pm

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Possible fraud at Home Park?

How's that news?  Been going on for years. I'm waiting for the day the Police raid the Boardroom.


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Over the road there they are on 17 pages of this and the defrauding issue.
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getting slaughtered aint i
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 2:08 pm

Peggy wrote:
Peggy wrote:
Hitch wrote:
Yea Man wrote:
It sounds like they're accusing Punchy of doing it all season.

Well if he has then he's been a bit of an idiot. I really hope that's not the case. Boycott the games but don't abuse the carer ticket concession as a matter of course - that's just not on in any reasonable person's make-up. Please, please let this be a one off with a good legitimate excuse - if it isn't then the own goal has been scored by Punchy I'm afraid.

I saw one post suggesting that it had been going on 'for years' - no evidence, of course, but as far as I can see it hasn't been challenged.

Some very sensible posts on this over there this morning, amazingly enough. Fact one: a disabled person's ST costs the same as any other full price adult ST. Fact two: if the disabled person needs a carer (and I gather they go through checks not dissimilar to those used by the DWP), the carer gets a free ST. So if the disabled person, as in this case, is too ill to go to the match, the carer who still goes is basically doing the same as anybody else who uses a mate's ST when the mate can't go. The seat's been paid for: it's just that somebody else is sitting in it.

I think some people are getting too hung up on the disabled / carer bit of this. Why is it allegedly an outrage to abuse this kind of ticket when apparently it's not an outrage to abuse any other kind of ticket?

Due to different information being posted elsewhere, I've just checked. Disabled supporters - wheelchair users, effectively - get a discounted price for STs in the disabled supporters' area. Any other disabled person, sitting anywhere else in the ground, pays full whack.
ambient disabled pay full whack no matter where they sit in any part of the ground peggy
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PostSubject: Re: Stickergate banning   Stickergate banning - Page 7 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 2:47 pm

harvetheslayer wrote:
Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Hitch wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Incredible own goal yet again by Argyle. Huge threads on Freechat ATD and Pasoti where Newell once again digs that hole deeper and deeper and shows himself up.
Akagreengull makes the point the club is run by a nasty little spolit brat and its becoming a nasty club. Nailed it comletely

A simple infringement of a ST ticket is dealt with surely by the Club on the Monday with a letter saying look play by the rules or we will come down hard on you. End of discussion....(yes we know stickers were original reason for the tug)

What do they do but contact the Police and the Herald who promptly put it on the front page of the online version yesterday. Odds on its in the written one today somewhere.

The Clubs an utter shambles it really is. Newell for goodness sake wake up smell the coffee abort this ludicrous love in with Brent because if you did the wave of dissent against Brent will explode left right and centre.

Think of the older people Newell the young kids drowning in despair at the direction of this club. Make no mistake Ian you do that and lot of people would applaud you. Do it before its too late....

Do you REALLY believe that Brent is nastier than Newell? I just don't see it. There has been more damage to Brent's image by his continued association with Newell and Webb than by his non-developing asset stripping business methodology. Appealing to Newell and offering applause???? Jeez.

They are both nasty individuals and dont think for one moment think I'm naive.....
Brent is a very devious individual whereas Newell is simply thick. He knows his undying support is going to blow up in his face very shortly. The guy reaps huge kudos if he was to openly bin Brent simple as that. Highly unlikely to happen I agree

No he wouldn't. Abandoning his hero worship of one individual wouldn't undo all the things he's done over the years.

Still waiting for this proof that Saturday was all planned in advance, by the way. Not keen on all this "I know something you don't" shite.

You think I'm outing someone who clearly sits in at board meetings then think again. Thats being polite. Punchey was targetted and I quote "for online hatred and abuse"......the ST was a HUGE bonus for the Club and as it was pointed out to me subsequently "you better be squeaky clean if someone becomes involved in that"
The Club were back peddling at 8.18 yesterday morning and wanted it "closed down and nipped in the bud"......their own fault though for splashing it across the clubs website

I suppose that narrows it down to a mere couple of dozen possibles or so!
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Green eyed Monster smirked on a double standards website and said:

I see that pretty much all the posts regarding this topic have been taken down from 'Brent Out'....Sorry, I mean 'Free Chat'

John Lloyd getting a conscience?

I've got a feeling I know this Knobber from somewhere?!
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Well what a pasting I am getting on PASOTI because I had the audacity to go back onto free chat and actually try to tell people how it was.
I had about half a dozen abusive private messages throughout Saturday from various 'people' and I use that term loosely to describe the person who I had a heated discussion with.
You can't have go at people for having a go back, that's the way that I see it. And rinsing me out on PASOTI when you don't have the right of reply, well you get my point.
My social media platform has been deleted after being advised by people who have my best interests at heart.
I'm waiting on somebody to get back to me hopefully today before I decide where I go with this from here.
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Punchy,Now that things have calmed down a bit, would you be able to post here what actually happened and what was said by the stewards and Slasher.
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I see Katkin on pasoti claims you offered her husband out for a fight, funny how she finds that disgraceful yet she's happy for her husband to approach an ATDer at a game and make threats.
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I see Katkin on pasoti claims you offered her husband out for a fight, funny how she finds that disgraceful yet she's happy for her husband to approach an ATDer at a game and make threats.

The clown was being equally abusive if not more so. He wasn't the only one on Saturday night.
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