Akos Buzsaky

Got quite pissed off watching MOTD last night seeing an absolutely sublime performance by Akos. What might have been under Ollie! *****wallet (spit) practically gave him away to QPR!! Bargain of the century. I remember plenty of comments from certain 'fans' at the time agreeing with Akos being shipped out. Those people have now got the club they fully derseve.

The 'headless chicken' didn't do bad either.

FFS!

Mackie "Lower league shite" "Never did it for us"

And these people have Harry Potter's ear ?

Freathy wrote:

Got quite pissed off watching MOTD last night seeing an absolutely sublime performance by Akos. What might have been under Ollie! *****wallet (spit) practically gave him away to QPR!! Bargain of the century. I remember plenty of comments from certain 'fans' at the time agreeing with Akos being shipped out. Those people have now got the club they fully derseve.

The 'headless chicken' didn't do bad either.

FFS!

Makes me vomit with rage when i see any of our former players,and indeed former contemporary clubs, doing well [nothing against them,good luck to them] and just thinking of what may have been if we'd had a less greedy/more ambitious board of directors at the right time.The departure of Buzz was certainly the catalyst and a harbinger of things to come,and contrary to the mantra trotted out by the still pro Stapleton brigade,it was not Holloway who forced him out;

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The prelude to the fire sale and the bumping up of the clubs balance sheet prior to the sale to the Japanese.Disgusting.

It started the great sale ... and they couldn't even give it the SEB excuse. He wanted to stay, just like Joe Mason, but no, their profit and gamble came first, they forced players out against their will.
What a club, and as you say Tring, now those that agree with that vision are actually having a bit iof input.
I can see a regime where even organic progress would be welcomed back as an alternative, and imminent viewed as some sort of halcyon days.

penzancepirate wrote:

It started the great sale ... and they couldn't even give it the SEB excuse. He wanted to stay, just like Joe Mason, but no, their profit and gamble came first, they forced players out against their will.
What a club, and as you say Tring, now those that agree with that vision are actually having a bit iof input.
I can see a regime where even organic progress would be welcomed back as an alternative, and imminent viewed as some sort of halcyon days.

I remember well the Pasoti faithful trusting in Stapes and the organic model, saying we could sell the players for a profit then bring in new gems and keep on doing that until we were ready to go for it !
How collectively stupid can a whole group be ?

They're also discussing this on the farm. Guess who piped up alluding to Ollie as the villain in Akos' departure (and by doing so is protecting *****wallet)? They STILL believe this shit. Even after everything that's happened. Baffling.

Akos was always my favourite player of that time. I remember having frequent arguments with people on the farm, who were saying that he was a luxury player, he didn't work hard enough etc etc.

Truth was that he was, and is, a supremely talented footballer. Old Bobby Williamson did a few things right.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Akos was always my favourite player of that time. I remember having frequent arguments with people on the farm, who were saying that he was a luxury player, he didn't work hard enough etc etc.

Truth was that he was, and is, a supremely talented footballer. Old Bobby Williamson did a few things right.

Is there a stats badger out there who could post a list of the good players we've acquired or developed and sold in the last 5 years ?

I know that good , ambitious players want top pay but above all an ambitious club.

If Staplewallet and co had done the honourable thing instead of getting greedy , they would have at a minimum, invited in investors when we were flying high, or better still looked to sell to someone who could see the potential the club has.
For a club with no top flight history, 16k crowds in the first season in the Championship was an indicator of what could transpire with cash backed ambition. Not a huge amount but enough for us to buy players like Grant Holt ffs !

Here's a few.......... SEB, BUZ,HALMOSI, NORRIS, HAYLES,MASON, MACKIE, NOONE,ABDOU,GOSLING,BWP...........THAT'S 11 FOR STARTERS.

Tringreen wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Akos was always my favourite player of that time. I remember having frequent arguments with people on the farm, who were saying that he was a luxury player, he didn't work hard enough etc etc.

Truth was that he was, and is, a supremely talented footballer. Old Bobby Williamson did a few things right.

Is there a stats badger out there who could post a list of the good players we've acquired or developed and sold in the last 5 years ?

I know that good , ambitious players want top pay but above all an ambitious club.

If Staplewallet and co had done the honourable thing instead of getting greedy , they would have at a minimum, invited in investors when we were flying high, or better still looked to sell to someone who could see the potential the club has.
For a club with no top flight history, 16k crowds in the first season in the Championship was an indicator of what could transpire with cash backed ambition. Not a huge amount but enough for us to buy players like Grant Holt ffs !

Here's a few.......... SEB, BUZ,HALMOSI, NORRIS, HAYLES,MASON, MACKIE, NOONE,ABDOU,GOSLING,BWP...........THAT'S 11 FOR STARTERS.

Well, they had their chance to get in serious investment, which would have moved the club to the next level, but they had 'other plans in place'.

All water under the bridge now I know, but I doubt if we'll have a better chance to make it over the next decade or two.

Tringreen wrote:

And these people have Harry Potter's ear ?

Care to put some meat on these bones of speculation . Are you saying that those who you perceive to have the ear of Brent wanted Buzz out ? If so can you prove your claim ? Or is it just more chucking more muck around and hoping it sticks ? Just in terested like .

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Don't you remember the Stapes/Pasoti line ?

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I don't know where the talk of me falling out with Ian Holloway came from but it's completely untrue

Says it all really

*****wallet and co couldn't get Akos out the door on loan with a view to a pemanent move for a poxy 500k quick enough. They needed cash for the Japs. I remember Akos's move being supported by some over on the farm (we're a selling club etc) and those who didn't agree with it blamed Ollie.

To be fair,it was a bleddy smart piece of psychology from Stapes to tell all those lies on the eve of the televised Leicester game and turn the fans completely against Holloway.Hats off to him for that,it set Argyle on a good run and probably kept the play off hopes flickering a bit longer-he could then say 10th place,best for years,we did go for it by signing Anderson and Teale,blah,blah.Very clever in the short term but a long term disaster.

You have to give greengenes credit for coming on here and trotting out the pasoti party line with little support.

What I just can't understand is how these guys, and there are many of them, continue to believe everything they are told by those who dictate Pasoti opinion ?

It seems that whatever the current owners, past and present of the club say, is gospel, when all indicators suggest it is and was, self interested bullshit.

My theory is that the policy dictators of that forum are so intent upon cosying up to the real gents and their lovely families that they'll support them until it's too late, the rank and file just fall into line.

Three successful Argyle managers and their players, all couldn't wait to get out once they had stirred interest elsewhere. That is not coincidence. They knew what sort of owners we had and knew there was no chance of real ambition.

I had it on good authority from a former director, that Holloway was told the board would seek investment in the Autumn prior to his departure. When he found out they hadn't even looked, he blew his top and the game was up.

The loyal fans chose to believe the wallet and Hollowheart became the panto villain. Very sad but at Home Park, has it ever been any different ?

Stapleton played you boys like a salmon.

Heaped all the blame on Holloway as he sold and manoevred the club into a position where he could get money back on his investment whilst retaining his status as local hero. You were flying that season and, with the league not having any particularly great teams in it PAFC could have easily sneaked it into the top flight. Your chums on pasoti were lapping it up and the general conscensus was that Olly was a total judas, I seem to remember Mrs Holloway being attacked in a supermarket and mass demos against the one bloke that could have taken you up.

Stapleton's next masterstroke to cover up his utter failure to grasp the nettle, was to bring back your hero Paul Sturrock, whom Olly claimed was always in the background anyway. Stapleton claimed that financial security was more important than a brief but doomed attempt at The Premiership and porkie and co. all nodded wisely in agreement.

How did that financial security pan out then chums?

Worth it?

Sturtz wrote:

Stapleton played you boys like a salmon.

Heaped all the blame on Holloway as he sold and manoevred the club into a position where he could get money back on his investment whilst retaining his status as local hero. You were flying that season and, with the league not having any particularly great teams in it PAFC could have easily sneaked it into the top flight. Your chums on pasoti were lapping it up and the general conscensus was that Olly was a total judas, I seem to remember Mrs Holloway being attacked in a supermarket and mass demos against the one bloke that could have taken you up.

Stapleton's next masterstroke to cover up his utter failure to grasp the nettle, was to bring back your hero Paul Sturrock, whom Olly claimed was always in the background anyway. Stapleton claimed that financial security was more important than a brief but doomed attempt at The Premiership and porkie and co. all nodded wisely in agreement.

How did that financial security pan out then chums?

Worth it?

Don't tell us. We know.

Post that on Pasoti

Sturtz wrote:

Stapleton played you boys like a salmon.

Heaped all the blame on Holloway as he sold and manoevred the club into a position where he could get money back on his investment whilst retaining his status as local hero. You were flying that season and, with the league not having any particularly great teams in it PAFC could have easily sneaked it into the top flight. Your chums on pasoti were lapping it up and the general conscensus was that Olly was a total judas, I seem to remember Mrs Holloway being attacked in a supermarket and mass demos against the one bloke that could have taken you up.

Stapleton's next masterstroke to cover up his utter failure to grasp the nettle, was to bring back your hero Paul Sturrock, whom Olly claimed was always in the background anyway. Stapleton claimed that financial security was more important than a brief but doomed attempt at The Premiership and porkie and co. all nodded wisely in agreement.

How did that financial security pan out then chums?

Worth it?

It gets worse Sturtz. There remains a body of Aviva opinion on Napoleon's farm, that it is we the supporters, who forced Stapleton to spend after Holloway and his players were long gone. He did go for it apparently, so it's all our fault.
Why do we have dullest supporters in the world ?
And to make things even worse, these same visionaries have got what they always wanted and are helping to run the show. We are truly VILLAGE.

Tringreen wrote:

We are truly VILLAGE.

The last time I heard that expression was when I rocked up to score for my cricket team carrying a couple of cans of Scrumpy Jack (we play on the school field nearish to the club proper, where the 1sts and 2nds play).

I'm Facebook mates with a Hoops fan who sponsors Mackie. Last time I enquired whether he could have a word and get Mackie and Buzz loaned back to us, he didn't speak too highly of Buzz at Prem level so I'm pleased that Buzz has found a bit of form.

That he could be doing it for Argyle in the Prem is, as Freathy said in the OP, bloody irritating to say the very least.

Nick wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

We are truly VILLAGE.

The last time I heard that expression was when I rocked up to score for my cricket team carrying a couple of cans of Scrumpy Jack (we play on the school field nearish to the club proper, where the 1sts and 2nds play).

I'm Facebook mates with a Hoops fan who sponsors Mackie. Last time I enquired whether he could have a word and get Mackie and Buzz loaned back to us, he didn't speak too highly of Buzz at Prem level so I'm pleased that Buzz has found a bit of form.

That he could be doing it for Argyle in the Prem is, as Freathy said in the OP, bloody irritating to say the very least.

Being 'village' did have cricketing origins for me too.

It is village to tuck your whites inside your socks when padding up.

I figured it probably did, Tring!

Nick wrote:

I figured it probably did, Tring!

I bet dane tucks his whites into his socks

Tringreen wrote:

Nick wrote:

I figured it probably did, Tring!

I bet dane tucks his whites into his socks

I never used to.Couldn't fit me Levi's in there.

Was never posh enough to have whites, the team had one box which was shared among us, big decision wethear you needed to use it.

Can't imagine anything worse than getting hit in the knackers in cricket.I was off work for three days once after getting smashed there in taking a catch at silly mod off,only about two yards away from the bat.I put my hands there just as instinctive self defence and the ball just stuck there,almost literally,jeez the pain just seemed to go right up through and out of the ears.Strange how these events can provoke the dark side of the human sense of humour-i was crawling around outside the changing room vomitting after they'd carried me off,accompanied by hysterical laughter from some of my team mates.Nowt as queer as folk,i'd probably have been the same though.