Jimmy Greaves will not walk again

At the World Cup Rollo, at the World Cup. He should never have allowed a situation to develop that saw Bobby Moore stitched up in public prior to the tournament. Wasn't it in South America somewhere. They had a long festering grudge over the Ratin thing in '66 and the Celtic blood bath a year later didn't help in the world club championship.The Europeans and South Americans really didn't get on at the time. I remember the Daily Mail at the time going bananas at Moore being so vulnerable. For once, they were right.
And yes, he should never have pulled off Charlton. A big big mistake. And how was Banks allowed to go down with food poisoning ? A catalogue of errors.
England were the World champions, exponents of a very new system. Most reigning world champions have great records. I'm not dissing Ramsey as a whole, I thought he did an excellent job over the years, but the magic touch disappeared in Mexico, that's for sure. West Germany were dead and buried. No way should they have been allowed to come back like they did.
However, England could have played Brazil 50 times but they would never have beaten Pele, Riveleno and jairzhinio in the heat.

It might help your cause if you knew the name of the country that the theft was meant to have happened.

It was Colombia and they weren't even in the World Cup.

And yet Ramsey was meant to have stopped it happening. Do explain how please.

And what Colombia had to do with Rattin and Argentina four years later is a mystery.

And you haven't explained either how Ramsey was supposed to prevent Banks suffer from food poisoning. He was the only one from the squad that had it so they must have been doing something right.

Mexico was a third world country back then so stomach upsets were always likely.

England could and should have beaten Brazil as Ball hit the crossbar and Astle missed a sitter.

And they were better than West Germany for most of the game.

Bonetti clearly should have done better on two of the goals but was short of match practice.

I fail to see why you should be so critical of Ramsey's 1970 World Cup campaign.

I was too young to know anything about Mexico '70 and I only just remember '74. '78 was the first world cup I remember and we weren't there so on to '82 and eliminated from the competition unbeaten. I thought that was a disaster and then some years later I saw a re-run of that Germany game in '70. I honestly couldn't believe how we lost it and quite what happened to Bonetti, who was, I thought, a properly respected and competent goalkeeper just beggared belief. I was aghast and can't imagine how the press reacted to it. If that happened today everybody would be screaming "fix!"

My over-riding memory of Ramsey was that Poland game. How on Earth did we fail to win that one?

Factor in The Hand Of God game and Lampard's "goal" and we've had some proper cruel bloody luck over the years in world cup finals.

Lord Biro wrote:

At the World Cup Rollo, at the World Cup. He should never have allowed a situation to develop that saw Bobby Moore stitched up in public prior to the tournament. Wasn't it in South America somewhere. They had a long festering grudge over the Ratin thing in '66 and the Celtic blood bath a year later didn't help in the world club championship.The Europeans and South Americans really didn't get on at the time. I remember the Daily Mail at the time going bananas at Moore being so vulnerable. For once, they were right.
And yes, he should never have pulled off Charlton. A big big mistake. And how was Banks allowed to go down with food poisoning ? A catalogue of errors.
England were the World champions, exponents of a very new system. Most reigning world champions have great records. I'm not dissing Ramsey as a whole, I thought he did an excellent job over the years, but the magic touch disappeared in Mexico, that's for sure. West Germany were dead and buried. No way should they have been allowed to come back like they did.
However, England could have played Brazil 50 times but they would never have beaten Pele, Riveleno and jairzhinio in the heat.

Surely the off the field stuff should have dealt with by other departments other than Ramsey, who would have had rather a lot on his plate in thinking about how England were going to defend the world cup in totally alien conditions against teams who are acknowledged as some of the best of all time, either at that time or in the future? Did Ramsey and the party in general receive advice from the relevant political or security people? An important question i'd have thought before pouring condemnation on a football manager. And as has been pointed out, the "Ramsey took Charlton off when it was 2-0 and England lost 3-2" mantra is crap, a myth, so many Chinese whispers. England declined after 1970 but to blame Ramsey for that is so much simplistic nonsense,as has been proved time after time since under managers of all styles and nationalities-not saying that you necessarily hold that opinion but many others certainly did/do.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

I was too young to know anything about Mexico '70 and I only just remember '74. '78 was the first world cup I remember and we weren't there so on to '82 and eliminated from the competition unbeaten. I thought that was a disaster and then some years later I saw a re-run of that Germany game in '70. I honestly couldn't believe how we lost it and quite what happened to Bonetti, who was, I thought, a properly respected and competent goalkeeper just beggared belief. I was aghast and can't imagine how the press reacted to it. If that happened today everybody would be screaming "fix!"

My over-riding memory of Ramsey was that Poland game. How on Earth did we fail to win that one?

Factor in The Hand Of God game and Lampard's "goal" and we've had some proper cruel bloody luck over the years in world cup finals.

Never thought that Lampard's disallowed goal was anything to do with luck. Remember seeing Blatters fat, smug, self satisfied face before the game and just knowing that something was going to happen. Factor in a Uruguayan linesman.......