Jimmy Greaves will not walk again

Poor old Jimmy has been told he'll never get out of his wheelchair again. So sad it comes to us all. Strokes can do so much damage.
Good luck Jimmy. My sort of outsider.
I saw him at my first ever football match at White Hart Lane against Leyton Orient. Us brothers were hoiked out of the crush to sit on the St John Ambulance bench. He was my childhood hero after Peter Pan. Alan Gilzean was a cultured slap head. Jimmy was the hirsute main event.

What a shame and what a great striker was one of the first to do well going abroad to italy...much prefered the other north london lot down the road but wish
Him all the best...PS if Alan Gilzean was a cultured slap head..what was Ralph coates the donald trump of comb overs then lol

I saw Revie's Leeds play Spurs and Ralph Coates got he nose broken. He looked more like an Ajax player than a Spurs one by the time the game finished.

Awfully sad about Greavesie. One of the all-time greats.

Great shame, saw greavsie play his first game for Spurs reserves after his transfer from Milan, at HP against our reserves, circa 13k crowd I think

Jimmy was the classic penalty/ 6 yd box goal poacher. Could jink a man and slot it home like no other. He didn't have the explosive power of Gerd Muller, he of the pumped up chest, but he just had that sprite in him. Actually, please don't take the mickey, but I thought Joe Mason at his best has a bit of the same style, although not on the same planet obviously. Also Bazza Hayles in his early early days before he blossomed into a brick built outside toilet.
Life is such a hard arbiter when our bodies start to fail us. No wonder we resort to more ethereal spiritual travels when we can.

What a fecker.

The great man in action;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTVIeo_9RVs

Wadda talent, think how much he'd be worth now.

Shame, massive talent but the only running he ever did was to get a packet of fags so was never gonna impress Alf Ramsey.

We would have won the World Cup with Greavsie too. The greatest goal scorer I've seen.

He would drift past defenders as if they weren't there and don't forget the game was brutal then.

Most of his running was done with the ball so completely different to Hurst and Hunt.

A brilliant footballer.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Shame, massive talent but the only running he ever did was to get a packet of fags so was never gonna impress Alf Ramsey.

you could have been the best player in the world and you wouldnt have got in ramseys england side unless you was in his click many a great player wernt capped for that reason

jimmy was my footballing hero before George Best came along, this thread is now prompting a huge wave of nostalgia, might watch my box set of match of the day later and savour the delights of Best, Charlton and Law (the holy trinity, the best players I have ever seen, apart from Pele at Home Park).
Sadly never saw Jimmy in action, but his dazzling skills on match of the day, made me a Spurs fan at school, alongside Argyle of course.
Sad to see the great mans physical decline, wish him well.
Oh yes, just dug out my signed copy of Jimmy's autobiography.

RegGreen wrote:

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Shame, massive talent but the only running he ever did was to get a packet of fags so was never gonna impress Alf Ramsey.

you could have been the best player in the world and you wouldnt have got  in ramseys england side unless you was in his click many a great player wernt capped for that reason

Greaves played in every match up until the Argentina game which he missed through injury.Hurst came in,scored the winner in the QF, then a hat trick in the final,which would suggest to me that Alf didn't get much wrong in his selection.There has been a lot of shit talked over the years about how that England team were functional and ultimately bad for the game in England-all that needs to be done to disprove that theory is to watch the semi against Portugal and the final against the Jerries-two more dramatic and stylish games of football you couldn't wish to see.England actually improved IMHO between 1966 and 1970 and would almost certainly have got to another final had the Jerries not poisoned Banksy-another damned good reason for Brexit AFAIC.

They might have poisoned Banks but had we kept Bobby Charlton on and had Bonnetti not imploded we'd still have beaten them.

That has to be one of the most astonishing defeats of all time.

It's a myth that Charlton was taken off when the score was 2-0. Beckenbauer had already scored the first one when he was substituted. Grabowski coming on was far more influential than Bobby going off,great player that he undoubtedly was.

The start of the ramsey down fall..they mite have got to the final if they didnt treat it as 4 wk piss up to mexico plus the drama of bobby moore getting nicked as well..they treated it like a holiday

It's so obvious when you put it like that.

I've wasted a lifetime thinking England took it seriously.

Here you are Rollo. Just for you. Sounds like they did take it seriously. They wouldn't have sung it else, would they.
It's only a game    :-

Back home, they'll be thinking about us
When we are far away
Back home, they'll be really behind us
In every game we play
They'll share every goal we are scoring
Out there
We will still hear them roaring
And we'll give all we've got to give
For the folks back home

Blue is the colour.......
The song remains the same.

Greenskin wrote:

It's a myth that Charlton was taken off when the score was 2-0

Is it?

I remember it as if it was yesterday, Brian fookin Labone getting dragged all over the place, Ramsey taking Peters off to bring the donkey Hunter on a minute before Seeler scored.

I'm going for a sit down now.

I always remember it being so, Ramsey took Charlton off to rest him for the next round, Beckinbauer suddenly freed up, Banks on the John after eating a dodgey fishfinger, Bonnetti between the sticks, the rest is history.

Shame really as that England team was better than the one in '66.

I didn't think the team was better than 66. Lee was never up to standard in an England shirt, a couple of the old team were past their best.
The substitution/taking it easy thing was a mistake though, as I remember the game changing totally. The whole European football power thing changed in an instant for 20 years, and we got to see the irritating Gerd Muller who was to become THE best striker in the world. I seem to remember him strutting around Wimbledon winding people up after a later German World Cup victory.
We missed Banks
I believe Ramsey was naive and out of his depth away from Blighty, and Brazil were just too good. The Moore jewelry thing should never have happened.

Sturtz wrote:

I always remember it being so, Ramsey took Charlton off to rest him for the next round, Beckinbauer suddenly freed up, Banks on the John after eating a dodgey fishfinger, Bonnetti between the sticks, the rest is history.

Shame really as that England team was better than the one in '66.

Nope,'twas not the case. Charlton was taken off in the 70th minute to make way for Colin Bell, Beckenbauer had already scored in the 69th minute.

Lord Biro wrote:

I didn't think the team was better than 66. Lee was never up to standard in an England shirt, a couple of the old team were past their best.
The substitution/taking it easy thing was a mistake though, as I remember the game changing totally. The whole European football power thing changed in an instant for 20 years, and we got to see the irritating Gerd Muller who was to become THE best striker in the world. I seem to remember him strutting around Wimbledon winding people up after a later German World Cup victory.
We missed Banks
I believe Ramsey was naive and out of his depth away from Blighty, and Brazil were just too good. The Moore jewelry thing should never have happened.

Agree with most of this except Ramsey's record away from home.

If by Blighty you mean the UK then Sir Alf's away record reads P39 W24 D8 L7.

Include Scotland, Wales and the two Ireland's then his record is even better.

That is from when being appointed sole manager from May 1963 until May 1974.

His only defeats on foreign soil were against Brazil (3), Argentina, West Germany, Poland and Italy.

This is a stunning achievement over 11 years.

By Blighty I think he means Albion.

So therefore Ramsey's record becomes P44 W29 D8 L7.

His England beat Northern Ireland 4 times out of 4 and Eire 1 out of 1,

Just to finish off, if you add in Scotland and Wales matches then his overall away record becomes

P56 W37 D11 L8.

And yet according to our local font of knowledge Ramsey was naive and out of his depth!