Lester.

pepsipete wrote:

What has happened to Holloway,  have not heard anything about him lately.

He's working as a pundit for Sky. He's pretty shit though.

zyph wrote:

It can't be the same Leicester that Ian Holloway ran away to....who we beat soon afterwards 1-0 at their place on telly.....and they then got relegated....nah I must be thinking of some other club.

In truth they have never looked back from going to the third

Elias wrote:

zyph wrote:

It can't be the same Leicester that Ian Holloway ran away to....who we beat soon afterwards 1-0 at their place on telly.....and they then got relegated....nah I must be thinking of some other club.

In truth they have never looked back from going to the third

Holloway asked Stapleton to find investment to back him in the early Autumn of 2007 when we were riding high in the Championship. Stapleton said he would and when Holloway found out he'd done nothing he was on his way out, as were his players whose stock had also risen. Winning at Leicester and Holloway not having enough class to motivate a bigger club in decline is irrelevant.
If we'd have had some cash in the boardroom, I'm fairly confident Ollie would have got us up, as he did with Blackpool. The trick then would have been to have swapped him for a Pulis or an Allardyce to keep us there, whilst the ground and infrastructure was developed.

Will the Ocean City ever be like Leicester City?

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Will the Ocean City ever be like Leicester City?

Not a chance.

Congratulations to Leicester City, totally deserved too. They completely ripped up the form book.

Who would have thought that back in August ?, it would be like us saying Argyle will win the FA Cup.

I hope Leicester City enjoy their European Cup experience during the new season, what a prospect that awaits them.

It has been suggested that Leicester City will make £150 million after this awsome effort.

I looked on the Leicester City facebook page last night and there were 1000s upon 1000s of messages offering congratulations (from British football fans and from football fans across the world). The title win has caught the attention of all. On Radio5live early this morning, they were talking to USA based Leicester fans, who were cock-a-hoop at the news.

I can't see a small premier League club winning the title for another decade or so though, as normal service will resume next season. Manchester City will probably dominate the 2016-2017 campaign.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Will the Ocean City ever be like Leicester City?

Never in a million years. I will be dead and buried by the time Argyle ever grace the top league.

Excellent for football, broke the stranglehold of the " big 4" suspect it had to be this season though

Graiser wrote:

Excellent for football, broke the stranglehold of the " big 4" suspect it had to be this season though

With the new tv deal, the big four will no doubt go on a mass spending spree in the summer. The top European clubs are not too happy about all the cash the Premier League sides will be receiving and have said they fear English clubs will (in the end) dominate Europe.

Make a change from Spanish clubs dominating Europe.

Tringreen wrote:

Elias wrote:

zyph wrote:

It can't be the same Leicester that Ian Holloway ran away to....who we beat soon afterwards 1-0 at their place on telly.....and they then got relegated....nah I must be thinking of some other club.

In truth they have never looked back from going to the third

Holloway asked Stapleton to find investment to back him in the early Autumn of 2007 when we were riding high in the Championship. Stapleton said he would and when Holloway found out he'd done nothing he was on his way out, as were his players whose stock had also risen. Winning at Leicester and Holloway not having enough class to motivate a bigger club in decline is irrelevant.
If we'd have had some cash in the boardroom, I'm fairly confident Ollie would have got us up, as he did with Blackpool. The trick then would have been to have swapped him for a Pulis or an Allardyce to keep us there, whilst the ground and infrastructure was developed.

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This with bells on

But what fun we had singing "F*** off Holloway" at Leicester while staplewallet sold off Norris, Buzsaky, Halmosi, Ebanks-Blake etc etc etc for reasons that very soon became all too apparent. It's so true - Argo fans just ain't for learning.

pepsipete wrote:

Make a change from Spanish clubs dominating Europe.

Barcelona were one of those clubs who voiced concern about the cash the Premier League will get.

I'm expecting Leicester to do well next season too.

I don't think it likely that they can go from losing only 3 times all season to losing lots of times.

Their Achilles heel might be the Champions League games. Do they have a big enough squad to cope with all the extra games?

Well done to them though.

It just goes to show that flogging off the old ground and building a new one you can't afford, going into admin and writing the cost off then spending recklessly and unsustainably, appointing manager after manager, going into admin again, getting overseas owners nobody knows anything about to bung in a mere £100m, signing a player from the lower divisions with an interesting personal history, picking Wes Morgan every week, scraping past a relegation and then indulging in racist internet sex scandals with Thai prostitutes before sacking yet another manager and then appointing one nobody at all wanted after he'd failed horribly managing Greece is a sound business model after all.

Who'd've thunk it!

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Will the Ocean City ever be like Leicester City?

not in a million years suffers....what ocean is this dont know what the slug was thinking when he came up with that bollocks..should be the english channel city

I always preferred King's Garrison Town myself. Sits well with the flag wavers and sort of actually has an historical REALity ? Should get the tourists flooding in. Or maybe not. Maybe UK tourists are plastics underneath all their bluster. They want defence but they don't want it next to their B & B.

The only other name I could have come up with in a blue sky Jones session is Ten Reactors Town. That also has a ring of truth, but maybe that might just put a few wussies off as well.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

I'm expecting Leicester to do well next season too.

I don't think it likely that they can go from losing only 3 times all season to losing lots of times.

Their Achilles heel might be the Champions League games. Do they have a big enough squad to cope with all the extra games?

Well done to them though.

It just goes to show that flogging off the old ground and building a new one you can't afford, going into admin and writing the cost off then spending recklessly and unsustainably, appointing manager after manager, going into admin again, getting overseas owners nobody knows anything about to bung in a mere £100m, signing a player from the lower divisions with an interesting personal history, picking Wes Morgan every week, scraping past a relegation and then indulging in racist internet sex scandals with Thai prostitutes before sacking yet another manager and then appointing one nobody at all wanted after he'd failed horribly managing Greece is a sound business model after all.

Who'd've thunk it!

They should have enjoyed the ride with organic growth year on year improvement model like we did instead. Oooo wants the premier league! Tis for plaaastics, not for us praaaper fans. Geddon Big Dave... Time for me paaasty. green armeeee

Tringreen wrote:

Elias wrote:

zyph wrote:

It can't be the same Leicester that Ian Holloway ran away to....who we beat soon afterwards 1-0 at their place on telly.....and they then got relegated....nah I must be thinking of some other club.

In truth they have never looked back from going to the third

Holloway asked Stapleton to find investment to back him in the early Autumn of 2007 when we were riding high in the Championship. Stapleton said he would and when Holloway found out he'd done nothing he was on his way out, as were his players whose stock had also risen. Winning at Leicester and Holloway not having enough class to motivate a bigger club in decline is irrelevant.
If we'd have had some cash in the boardroom, I'm fairly confident Ollie would have got us up, as he did with Blackpool. The trick then would have been to have swapped him for a Pulis or an Allardyce to keep us there, whilst the ground and infrastructure was developed.

Holloway knew about the investment that was available at that time. He knew which players he wanted to get in to get us up. He asked Stapleton to at the very least, talk to the potential investors (all Argyle fans by the way). Stapleton said he would, but as we all know didn't. Holloway didn't like being lied to, and that was the end of that. Our plunge to the depths started from that moment.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Elias wrote:

zyph wrote:

It can't be the same Leicester that Ian Holloway ran away to....who we beat soon afterwards 1-0 at their place on telly.....and they then got relegated....nah I must be thinking of some other club.

In truth they have never looked back from going to the third

Holloway asked Stapleton to find investment to back him in the early Autumn of 2007 when we were riding high in the Championship. Stapleton said he would and when Holloway found out he'd done nothing he was on his way out, as were his players whose stock had also risen. Winning at Leicester and Holloway not having enough class to motivate a bigger club in decline is irrelevant.
If we'd have had some cash in the boardroom, I'm fairly confident Ollie would have got us up, as he did with Blackpool. The trick then would have been to have swapped him for a Pulis or an Allardyce to keep us there, whilst the ground and infrastructure was developed.

Holloway knew about the investment that was available at that time. He knew which players he wanted to get in to get us up. He asked Stapleton to at the very least, talk to the potential investors (all Argyle fans by the way). Stapleton said he would, but as we all know didn't. Holloway didn't like being lied to, and that was the end of that. Our plunge to the depths started from that moment.

There you have it.

The much vaunted Consortium, having made an offer they always knew damned well was never going to be accepted, drove a wedge between club and manager that resulted in the most successful manager we have had in years leaving.

They managed to feck everything up despite their take-over never getting off the drawing board and not ever being in charge of anything.

Well played, chaps. Well played. I hope you're all proud of what you achieved.

Actually... No. Not that.

Do you think you could have fecked up any worse than you did? That.

This.

How about ending up in administration?

Was that worse?

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Elias wrote:

zyph wrote:

It can't be the same Leicester that Ian Holloway ran away to....who we beat soon afterwards 1-0 at their place on telly.....and they then got relegated....nah I must be thinking of some other club.

In truth they have never looked back from going to the third

Holloway asked Stapleton to find investment to back him in the early Autumn of 2007 when we were riding high in the Championship. Stapleton said he would and when Holloway found out he'd done nothing he was on his way out, as were his players whose stock had also risen. Winning at Leicester and Holloway not having enough class to motivate a bigger club in decline is irrelevant.
If we'd have had some cash in the boardroom, I'm fairly confident Ollie would have got us up, as he did with Blackpool. The trick then would have been to have swapped him for a Pulis or an Allardyce to keep us there, whilst the ground and infrastructure was developed.

Holloway knew about the investment that was available at that time. He knew which players he wanted to get in to get us up. He asked Stapleton to at the very least, talk to the potential investors (all Argyle fans by the way). Stapleton said he would, but as we all know didn't. Holloway didn't like being lied to, and that was the end of that. Our plunge to the depths started from that moment.

There you have it.

The much vaunted Consortium, having made an offer they always knew damned well was never going to be accepted, drove a wedge between club and manager that resulted in the most successful manager we have had in years leaving.

They managed to feck everything up despite their take-over never getting off the drawing board and not ever being in charge of anything.

Well played, chaps. Well played. I hope you're all proud of what you achieved.

Actually... No. Not that.

Do you think you could have fecked up any worse than you did? That.

Not for the first you demonstrate your stunning naivety. Not to mention crass ignorance and stupidity.

The consortium at that time was a serious group of people who were all long term Argyle fans, not short term shysters looking to make a fast buck. Serious money was on the table to try and move the club forward as it was clear the then board wasn't able to do so.

Of course the manager knew. He was told. It was vital he knew and was comfortable with what was planned.

Despite your continued attempts at rewriting history, Stapleton and co were the bad guys in all this. They simply didn't want to let go and put their own ambitions in front of those of the club. They were ultimately responsible for administration and our descent down the leagues.

You are quite simply, completely and totally wrong.

You were then, you are now. You thought you knew what was going on. You didn't. You still don't.

Live with it.

Were the consortium all Tories? That might explain the SFD bitterness.

Anyone care to name the names of these Argyle Fans then?
For us plebs.

Maybe Damon would know ?

Kevin Ball, Julian Seaward, Chris Garden, Peter Jones and Di Thompson.

(according to De Liars failed website)

SFD was pretty close to the truth, but not only did the consortium try to put a wedge between Manager and Board (what other business would a potential purchaser talk to management before any conversation had taken place with the Board), but they also tried to drive a wedge between board members, wanting only Robert (RiP), Phil and myself  out.

Again usual business practice would see potential buyers making an offer for the shares they wanted to buy i.e. those held by Rob, Phil and myself, as Tony and I did when we purchased the shares held by FOOT and Jones. But the Consortium did not do that, they wanted the remaining board members to buy us out and then split the shareholding with them in return for a mix of investment and loans.

Let us not forget that at that time things were good. A Board that was close, unified and agreed on most strategies. This would , not have been the case if the Consortium plan would have come to fruition and the main stumbling block was Jones. Staples, Rob and Phil hated the man and I am sure the feeling was mutual. There is no way in a million years Stapes and Jones could have worked together again.

The final element that blew the deal completely was conducting a take over on a message board. There were just too many elements that weren't played in a harmonious way. Jones should have known he would be a dealbreaker, he didn't leave on good terms and therefore his involvement made it a hostile takeover. If the Consortium were seriously minted they should have just approached with an offer to buy the club outright.