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PostSubject: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 3:24 pm

Joins Pompey for 3 months.

Pompey have raised the stakes with this signing he will bag them some points for sure. Shame we never tried to bring him back before now after his stint here.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 3:40 pm

One has to ask why is he still being put out on loan to a L2 team, two years on.
The only conclusion can be he's another Alan Judge. Just won't make it any higher like so many.
Fleeting shooting stars. Banton was another. And yet, Bolasie who couldn't even control his own legs, is cutting it in the premiership. Weird.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Sir John Hawkins wrote:
One has to ask why is he still being put out on loan to a L2 team, two years on.
The only conclusion can be he's another Alan Judge. Just won't make it any higher like so many.
Fleeting shooting stars. Banton was another. And yet, Bolasie who couldn't even control his own legs, is cutting it in the premiership. Weird.
You are Sir (doffing my forelock) absolutely right.


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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 7:56 pm

Sir John Hawkins wrote:
One has to ask why is he still being put out on loan to a L2 team, two years on.
The only conclusion can be he's another Alan Judge. Just won't make it any higher like so many.
Fleeting shooting stars. Banton was another. And yet, Bolasie who couldn't even control his own legs, is cutting it in the premiership. Weird.

Lavery was offered loan deals at higher clubs, but wanted to work with Cook again after their time at Chesterfield. He's absolutely good enough for League 1, for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 8:16 pm

Sir John Hawkins wrote:
One has to ask why is he still being put out on loan to a L2 team, two years on.
The only conclusion can be he's another Alan Judge. Just won't make it any higher like so many.
Fleeting shooting stars. Banton was another. And yet, Bolasie who couldn't even control his own legs, is cutting it in the premiership. Weird.

Judge did make it. He played 41 times for Brentford when they reached the championship play offs last season, ultimately unsuccessful but certainly a higher standard than Argyle have reached since his time at the club. I believe Lavery picked up a pretty serious cruciate injury after he went back to Wednesday from Argyle, which would not have been beneficial to a player whose pace was a major feature of his game- he sure looked as though he could handle a step up in standard when he was down here.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 8:46 pm

How can Portsmouth class this as a emergency loan with their big squad

The emergency loan window opens on Wednesday, September 9.

The window closes on November 25.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 8:58 pm

Tgwu wrote:
How can Portsmouth class this as a emergency loan with their big squad

The emergency loan window opens on Wednesday, September 9.

The window closes on November 25.

Hence why the whole structure needs looking into as too many clubs including us in the past have used the term emergency too loosely.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 9:43 pm

The ludicrous loan debacle suits the big clubs, and makes their monopoly of all the young talent that much easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyMon Oct 12, 2015 11:34 pm

Tubbs and Lavery will be a short forward line.

Might come unstuck against defences where brute strength and power count for more than movement and a poacher's finish.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyTue Oct 13, 2015 2:21 pm

Don't think we've seen a team with such a monumental budget than this years Pompey at league 2 level. They already have plenty of quality attacking options so bringing in Lavery just seems to me like them flexing their financial muscle. If they aren't promoted this season something is seriously wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyTue Oct 13, 2015 2:55 pm

It'd be hilarious if they failed to get promoted having spent and acted like they have a divine right to.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyTue Oct 13, 2015 3:32 pm

I don't see the problem with Portsmouth. Due to a huge stroke of luck, and Ridsdale not being anywhere near their administration process, they're supposedly debt free, with attendances way way above other teams in this division.
Shorely, it's ok that a club with by far the biggest attendances should be able to afford the players it deems necessary to move on. What could possibly be wrong in that ?
Now they're run by a Trust rather than a "mill owner" or debt supervisor, perhaps a bigger proportion of their receipts ( without going into the 55% thing ) will go to the right place.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyTue Oct 13, 2015 5:12 pm

I don't have a problem(envy aside) with them spending more than anyone else but their bullyboy tactics of pretty much tapping Reuben up by announcing their interest in him to the press was naughty imo, good on Del bhey for telling them as much, Green Jim was probably rubbing his hands together in eager anticipation of a pension pot filler.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyTue Oct 13, 2015 6:48 pm

Yes Les, their manager was breaking the rules really.
As for Green Jim, I've got a feeling he'll want to keep ticking along nicely here and won't want to rock the boat for a few months. I expect him to use the team's success to try and use the Avivas to publicly back an inappropriate Plan B for HHP. If I were him with his greedy mits, that's what I'd do. He won't get a better opportunity than the next 6 months. Otherwise, when else will he be able to make his dosh, although there is the prospect of him becoming the new landlord I suppose in a couple of years.
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PostSubject: Re: Caolan Lavery   Caolan Lavery EmptyTue Oct 13, 2015 8:06 pm

Les Miserable wrote:
I don't have a problem(envy aside) with them spending more than anyone else but their bullyboy tactics of pretty much tapping Reuben up by announcing their interest in him to the press was naughty imo, good on Del bhey for telling them as much, Green Jim was probably rubbing his hands together in eager anticipation of a pension pot filler.


Them trying to bully their way to Reuben should be all the motivation our players need.

Pompey could be our next Luton, if so the game in April could be an intense one!

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