Blizzard blames Sheridan

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

If the players cant motivate themselves for big games without having someone do it for them then they shouldnt be professional footballers and better of working in ASDA where managers there do mollycuddle you to death.

They were Sheridan's signings for Christ sake.

Only the keeper and Nelson weren't. And they were probably two of the more determined players.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

They were Sheridan's signings for Christ sake.

Only the keeper and Nelson weren't. And they were probably two of the more determined players.

and these unmotivated players still got to the playoffs then folded like origami under pressure. They are bottlers at the end of the day.

Angry wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

zyph wrote:

There is possibly a touch of sour grapes and obviously frustration in Blizzard's comments......but also a ring of truth in some of the things that he says.

What happened around the Christmas period for things to start coming apart......because things certainly did go wrong from then onward.....it couldn't just be that our successful loanees where returned to their parent clubs......and our inability to sort it out efficiently and quickly looked quite amateur.

Is BLizzard saying what other players don't feel able to comment on because they're under contract still.......is it the reason that Banton wanted to leave because he couldn't face another season under Sheridan.......is it the reason that there are rumours that Alessandro won't sign another contract........did Sheridan send the players mixed messages about how to play and his inability to have a plan B.......why did Argyle never ever win a game when going behind.

What Blizzard says about the players not being properly prepared for the play-offs certainly came to fruition......and why did a team that looked possible promotion top three at Christmas only just scrape into the play-offs.....they could of been much better than that......what was obvious was that Sheridan was not a very good communicator...not only with his players but infront of the mic with joe public.....other than football he had no connection to the area at all.....and although many feel that he didn't need to live in the area, some connection with Argyle and Plymouth would have been appreciated.......it was always Plymouth that he talked about never Argyle.

its a truth those who want to cling to anythng to bash someone with will believe to me czarcasm said it best.

And those who want to ignore Blizzard evidently will too, bringing into question his ability as a player (what has that got to do with what he is saying?), and even saying it is better to listen to Alessandra for cutting edge analysis, who profoundly reflected 'I have no idea why we got battered and played crap'.

but blizzard was shit though are you going to try and say he wasnt?

Blizzard was alright, he was in the pre-xmas team which was demolishing teams as well.

He's an experienced League One/League Two player with a fair few clubs and managers - you have to be extremely blinkered to argue he doesn't know what he is talking about. In my humble opinion.

All players are entitled to their opinion, from Marvin Morgan to Curtis Nelson. You may think they are shit but a lot of these players have played at a higher level than 7th in league two, and won various promotions, so maybe it is worth listening to when they advise where we went wrong.

It's interesting the fans can make the same points as Blizzard as reasons to get rid of Sheridan and the viewpoint is accepted.

Blizzard makes them and it's 'sour grapes'.

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

zyph wrote:

There is possibly a touch of sour grapes and obviously frustration in Blizzard's comments......but also a ring of truth in some of the things that he says.

What happened around the Christmas period for things to start coming apart......because things certainly did go wrong from then onward.....it couldn't just be that our successful loanees where returned to their parent clubs......and our inability to sort it out efficiently and quickly looked quite amateur.

Is BLizzard saying what other players don't feel able to comment on because they're under contract still.......is it the reason that Banton wanted to leave because he couldn't face another season under Sheridan.......is it the reason that there are rumours that Alessandro won't sign another contract........did Sheridan send the players mixed messages about how to play and his inability to have a plan B.......why did Argyle never ever win a game when going behind.

What Blizzard says about the players not being properly prepared for the play-offs certainly came to fruition......and why did a team that looked possible promotion top three at Christmas only just scrape into the play-offs.....they could of been much better than that......what was obvious was that Sheridan was not a very good communicator...not only with his players but infront of the mic with joe public.....other than football he had no connection to the area at all.....and although many feel that he didn't need to live in the area, some connection with Argyle and Plymouth would have been appreciated.......it was always Plymouth that he talked about never Argyle.

its a truth those who want to cling to anythng to bash someone with will believe to me czarcasm said it best.

And those who want to ignore Blizzard evidently will too, bringing into question his ability as a player (what has that got to do with what he is saying?), and even saying it is better to listen to Alessandra for cutting edge analysis, who profoundly reflected 'I have no idea why we got battered and played crap'.

but blizzard was shit though are you going to try and say he wasnt?

Blizzard was alright, he was in the pre-xmas team which was demolishing teams as well.

He's an experienced League One/League Two player with a fair few clubs and managers - you have to be extremely blinkered to argue he doesn't know what he is talking about. In my humble opinion.

All players are entitled to their opinion, from Marvin Morgan to Curtis Nelson. You may think they are shit but a lot of these players have played at a higher level than 7th in league two, and won various promotions, so maybe it is worth listening to when they advise where we went wrong.

Is blizzard this seasons luke young for you

Blizzard wasn't a player worth keeping, in my opinion, but not being as good as say Lee Cox or the other centre midfielders doesn't invalidate his opinion about out playoff preparation. He was a starting player in one game fer feckssakes, so I am quite sure he knew full well how Shez was preparing the team!

ejh wrote:

Blizzard wasn't a player worth keeping, in my opinion, but not being as good as say Lee Cox or the other centre midfielders doesn't invalidate his opinion about out playoff preparation. He was a starting player in one game fer feckssakes, so I am quite sure he knew full well how Shez was preparing the team!

If he played ok at least in those games his opinion would hold more ground with me but seeing as he was awful and one of the worse offenders too and then has the check to speak out about the prep for the game is not only stinks of sour grapes but of a bitter player not happy with the manager who told him he wasnt getting a new contract and would be unemployed come the summer.

Sheridan talked of 'plymouth' not argyle......interesting view.
We are plymouth ! No song is ever song of 'plymouth'

Everyone played crap, it's not like just Blizzard wasn't there. The team, the tactics, the formation, the personnel was all totally wrong, clearly evident to most, but for some reason you want to absolve Shez of the responsibility even when a player who started the last game even tells it like it is.

ejh wrote:

Everyone played crap, it's not like just Blizzard wasn't there. The team, the tactics, the formation, the personnel was all totally wrong, clearly evident to most, but for some reason you want to absolve Shez of the responsibility even when a player who started the last game even tells it like it is.

In your opinion that is

Im not absolving his share of the failure dont think i ever have done, But unlike you im not absolving players who were utter garbage Blizzard being the main culprit with Reid who think selling a story to the papers that stinks of someone butt hurt he is now unemployed by a manager who has since left to be used as a smoke screen to cover up just how bad the players were because it suits someone agenda to slam sheridan and claim it as a fact.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

I agree with this. We were nearly men at best under Sheridan - even when, as Rollo says (nice LA Confidential ref), we had avoiding relegation in our own hands.

Puzzled as to why some on here seem to want to continue to lord him up. Average manager in a terrible league = failure. Just hope our equally average board manage to fluke a good appointment this time.

Didn't need Blizzard to tell me Sheridan was shit though.

Angry wrote:

ejh wrote:

Everyone played crap, it's not like just Blizzard wasn't there. The team, the tactics, the formation, the personnel was all totally wrong, clearly evident to most, but for some reason you want to absolve Shez of the responsibility even when a player who started the last game even tells it like it is.

In your opinion that is

Im not absolving his share of the failure dont think i ever have done, But unlike you im not absolving players who were utter garbage Blizzard being the main culprit with Reid who think selling a story to the papers that stinks of someone butt hurt he is now unemployed by a manager who has since left to be used as a smoke screen to cover up just how bad the players were because it suits someone agenda to slam sheridan and claim it as a fact.

Struggling to decrypt your ramblings, but what's Reid done?

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

Angry wrote:

ejh wrote:

Everyone played crap, it's not like just Blizzard wasn't there. The team, the tactics, the formation, the personnel was all totally wrong, clearly evident to most, but for some reason you want to absolve Shez of the responsibility even when a player who started the last game even tells it like it is.

In your opinion that is

Im not absolving his share of the failure dont think i ever have done, But unlike you im not absolving players who were utter garbage Blizzard being the main culprit with Reid who think selling a story to the papers that stinks of someone butt hurt he is now unemployed by a manager who has since left to be used as a smoke screen to cover up just how bad the players were because it suits someone agenda to slam sheridan and claim it as a fact.

Struggling to decrypt your ramblings, but what's Reid done?

Then dont waste mine and your time replying and move along

  Well if you weren't intent on chatting shit on a near constant basis Angry then you wouldn't be called out on it so often...

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

Utter rubbish. Sheridan kept Argyle in the league by signing some decent players like Cox, Bryan, Banton, Reid and Branston and starting to clear out the deadwood accumulated by that disaster Fletcher, which resulted in 28 points being gained from the 18 games in which he was in charge in contrast to the 24 points taken from the previous 28.If you're going to talk a load of nonsense, then at least provide some facts to back your nonsense up, which admittedly in this case would be extremely difficult. Twisting both words and reality seems to have been quite the in thing with some posters in the last couple of days.

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

  Well if you weren't intent on chatting shit on a near constant basis Angry then you wouldn't be called out on it so often...

In what way is a child behind a keyboard with nothing of worth to say calling me out? Do grow up kid

Greenskin wrote:

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

Utter rubbish. Sheridan kept Argyle in the league by signing some decent players like Cox, Bryan, Banton, Reid and Branston and starting to clear out the deadwood accumulated by that disaster Fletcher, which resulted in 28 points being gained from the 18 games in which he was in charge in contrast to the 24 points taken from the previous 28.If you're going to talk a load of nonsense, then at least provide some facts to back your nonsense up, which admittedly in this case would be extremely difficult. Twisting both words and reality seems to have been quite the in thing with some posters in the last couple of days.

Absolutely. Sheridan certainly wasn't the best manager we've ever had, but isn't responsible for all the things wrong at Home Park. He got us to the play offs, something only two others have done in the history of the club.

Not the best, but give the bloke a break. We're still in the league thanks to him, and we weren't too far away from promotion. A far better return than many other incumbents.

Greenskin wrote:

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

Utter rubbish. Sheridan kept Argyle in the league by signing some decent players like Cox, Bryan, Banton, Reid and Branston and starting to clear out the deadwood accumulated by that disaster Fletcher, which resulted in 28 points being gained from the 18 games in which he was in charge in contrast to the 24 points taken from the previous 28.If you're going to talk a load of nonsense, then at least provide some facts to back your nonsense up, which admittedly in this case would be extremely difficult. Twisting both words and reality seems to have been quite the in thing with some posters in the last couple of days.

You can't argue with the job Fletch did in the first season though. Btw where did the funds for Branston, Bryan, Banton, Cox etc. Come from? Fair to say Shez was a bit better cared for than Fletch?

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

Utter rubbish. Sheridan kept Argyle in the league by signing some decent players like Cox, Bryan, Banton, Reid and Branston and starting to clear out the deadwood accumulated by that disaster Fletcher, which resulted in 28 points being gained from the 18 games in which he was in charge in contrast to the 24 points taken from the previous 28.If you're going to talk a load of nonsense, then at least provide some facts to back your nonsense up, which admittedly in this case would be extremely difficult. Twisting both words and reality seems to have been quite the in thing with some posters in the last couple of days.

Absolutely. Sheridan certainly wasn't the best manager we've ever had, but isn't responsible for all the things wrong at Home Park. He got us to the play offs, something only two others have done in the history of the club.

Not the best, but give the bloke a break. We're still in the league thanks to him, and we weren't too far away from promotion. A far better return than many other incumbents.

No,he wasn't. Wouldn't put him in the top 5 [Waiters, Smith, Sturrock, Pulis, Holloway in that order for me] but he was certainly nowhere near the bottom 5 when you think of people like Kelly, Ufton, Jones, Fletcher etc. I'd put him somewhere in the Moncur, Saxton, Bingham category, may just make the top 10 but who knows what he could have done if the financial circumstances had been the same as when previous managers had been in the hot seat. It'll be very interesting to see what transpires over the next couple of years and if someone comes in and gets the club moving on to the next step, all well and good. If not, then it may well be that deeper questions are going to be asked about the direction that the club is heading.

Angry wrote:

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

  Well if you weren't intent on chatting shit on a near constant basis Angry then you wouldn't be called out on it so often...

In what way is a child behind a keyboard with nothing of worth to say calling me out? Do grow up kid

You said this:
"im not absolving players who were utter garbage Blizzard being the main culprit with Reid who think selling a story to the papers that stinks of someone butt hurt"


So I asked what Reid had done? Because it reads as if Reid thinks selling a story to the paper stinks of butthurt or something like that. To be honest, I don't really understand what your post was about. I'm guessing something along the lines of Blizzard is shit and his interview is just sour grapes, which is fair enough. I just wondered why you were bringing Reid into this is all, I didn't know if I'd missed something, so I asked and then you got all sensitive, as per... So anyway, what were you on about with Reid?  

ejh wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sheridan kept us in the league curtesy of Dagenham and Barnet losing their final games of the season.
We, knowing we might need to win, contrived to lose at Rochdale who had nothing to play for.

He couldn't motivate them then to stay in the league and two years later he still couldn't motivate them towards a Wembley appearance and possible promotion.

The bloke is not suitable to be in charge of a biggish club. His personality and aloofness towards the fans is counter productive.  

In fact it's ironic that Blizzard has broken ranks as he epitomised Sheridan's team. Slow, predictable and ordinary.

Utter rubbish. Sheridan kept Argyle in the league by signing some decent players like Cox, Bryan, Banton, Reid and Branston and starting to clear out the deadwood accumulated by that disaster Fletcher, which resulted in 28 points being gained from the 18 games in which he was in charge in contrast to the 24 points taken from the previous 28.If you're going to talk a load of nonsense, then at least provide some facts to back your nonsense up, which admittedly in this case would be extremely difficult. Twisting both words and reality seems to have been quite the in thing with some posters in the last couple of days.

You can't argue with the job Fletch did in the first season though. Btw where did the funds for Branston, Bryan, Banton, Cox etc. Come from? Fair to say Shez was a bit better cared for than Fletch?

It's fair enough to point out the fact that Fletcher kept Argyle in the league but he also had advantages that the previous manager did not-you may as well ask the same question about Fletcher's funding which enabled him to bring in people like Chadwick,Blanchard, Purse, Hemmings, Wotton,Macdonald etc,who were undoubtedly instrumental in keeping Argyle in the league. It was what came after it that was the problem-he completely failed to build on the degree of success by signing people like Gilmartin,Griffiths,Lowry,Cowan Hall [who it has to be said did surprisingly well after he left Argyle, didn't see much in him at all],Madjo and Lennox who contributed very little to the club in their time here. I don't know what the comparative budget of the two managers was-maybe Sheridan did have a better budget but also maybe it was to his credit that he saw that what was on the books just wasn't good enough and needed to be quickly addressed even if it did mean an increase in expenditure.

For as much as I have moaned about Sheridan, I do by and large rate him as a manager and his time at Argyle.

But I totally agree with Blizzard's interpretation of events.

It all began going sour after Christmas. Before that Shez had a side of contenders on his hands. Our games against Luton and Pompey on tv showed what a capable and gritty side Shez had assembled.

After Christmas I saw some poor displays, notably Newport away and Oxford away where Argyle just didn't look interested. The confidence wasn't there on either occasion.

We just about scraped the playoffs in the end, which is an achievement in itself. But from the side that we looked before Christmas, it was hardly a cause for celebration to scrape 7th. The side before Christmas would also have been the favourites in those playoff games - instead as Blizzard says, we had no confidence going into the matches, we got the tactics wrong and didn't prepare for what Wycombe were going to bring.

I think Phil Brown and Gareth Ainsworth got far more out of poorer squads of players than ours - so overall I think the time was right to make a switch for a manager who can take us where we want to be. There was nothing in the last 5 months that suggested Sheridan could lead a top 3 assault - if anything it looked like we were heading toward midtable with another season under Shez (IMHO of course).

It is a FACT that had Dagenham drawn their last game and Barnet had won theirs' then we would have been a conference side the next season.

i am stating a literal fact not an interpretation of a fact.

You're the one twisting my words Greenskin.

Knowing a win would suffice, we still managed to make a pigs ear of our last game at Rochdale.

Forward two years and nothing's changed.