Gary Owers leaves the club

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GARY Owers has left his position as first-team coach at Plymouth Argyle...


...to pursue other opportunities within the game.



The club thanks Gary for his contribution during his time at Home Park, and everyone associated with the Pilgrims sends him good wishes for his future career.

I've also read on twitter that Showunmi has been recalled.

Wotton to replace him? Would save a salary...

Wotton temp ass man

'Tresting.

For a very quiet squad, the loss of Wotts from the training ground and bench next season would be a very bad thing, hopefully he's earned enough trust and respect from Sheridan to be the shoe-in replacement.

May sound harsh on Wottsy but I'd like to have whoever is the best man for the job as the new assistant manager. Jobs for the boys culture has to stop. If Wotton was who he is but for Gillingham or someone instead of Argyle then he'd have to apply on merit and prove he was the best the same as anyone. So should he here.

I take your point about lack of vocality but if Wotton leaves and Sheridan signs 4 new experienced/vocal players, then replaces Owers with someone who he had at Chesterfield (who's better at making changes during games) then I won't be complaining for a second. There needs to be a particular skill set (tactics, ability to coach well, ability to communicate well to the younger players, complementation of Sheridan's own weaknesses) that any candidate should have to be considered for the job imo. If Wotton has it, great. If he doesn't have it and someone like Tommy Wright does, then I don't want us to be dishing out jobs on sentiment.

Correction: some wiser person than I (who also initially got taken in) has now told me that Showumni hasn't gone. It was some idiot on twitter with a made-up account who was spreading the rumour.

knecht wrote:

Correction: some wiser person than I (who also initially got taken in) has now told me that Showumni hasn't gone. It was some idiot on twitter with a made-up account who was spreading the rumour.

Hope he does go after next Saturday....we need someone who can score goals.....nobody else seemed to want him.

GreenSam wrote:

May sound harsh on Wottsy but I'd like to have whoever is the best man for the job as the new assistant manager. Jobs for the boys  culture has to stop. If Wotton was who he is but for Gillingham or someone instead of Argyle then he'd have to apply on merit and prove he was the best the same as anyone. So should he here.

I take your point about lack of vocality but if Wotton leaves and Sheridan signs 4 new experienced/vocal players, then replaces Owers with someone who he had at Chesterfield (who's better at making changes during games) then I won't be complaining for a second. There needs to be a particular skill set (tactics, ability to coach well, ability to communicate well to the younger players, complementation of Sheridan's own weaknesses) that any candidate should have to be considered for the job imo. If Wotton has it, great. If he doesn't have it and someone like Tommy Wright does, then I don't want us to be dishing out jobs on sentiment.

Agreed.Love to see Wotts trying to coach a passing game   

GreenSam wrote:

May sound harsh on Wottsy but I'd like to have whoever is the best man for the job as the new assistant manager. Jobs for the boys  culture has to stop. If Wotton was who he is but for Gillingham or someone instead of Argyle then he'd have to apply on merit and prove he was the best the same as anyone. So should he here.

I take your point about lack of vocality but if Wotton leaves and Sheridan signs 4 new experienced/vocal players, then replaces Owers with someone who he had at Chesterfield (who's better at making changes during games) then I won't be complaining for a second. There needs to be a particular skill set (tactics, ability to coach well, ability to communicate well to the younger players, complementation of Sheridan's own weaknesses) that any candidate should have to be considered for the job imo. If Wotton has it, great. If he doesn't have it and someone like Tommy Wright does, then I don't want us to be dishing out jobs on sentiment.

I agree, but since when have assistant managers been recruited like this? Coaching and assistant positions - at least in lower league football in this country - are defined by a jobs for the boys culture and I'd be surprised if vacancies were advertised / candidates were interviewed / a job description even existed.

I'm sure that there are a load of unemployed coaches who could do a better job than Wotton but - unless Sheridan is pally with one of them - then I doubt that they'd have a sniff.

This is a tricky one.

Obviously we need the best manager, coach, players, physio etc we can get. To suggest otherwise seems unwise.

On the other hand the prevalence of a manager hauling his support staff around with him everywhere he goes is very common. Going back along we had Neil Warnock and Mick Jones and more recently we had Pulis/Kemp/Parsons and Holloway/Penrice/Bulpin as other successful examples.

The problem comes when the main man moves on and takes them all with him and at a stroke the club's manager structure is totally destroyed.

It also removes much of a club's sense of identity because with batch after batch on incomers rapidly becoming outgoers coupled with the ever increasing churn of players clubs effectively become franchises simply based in a location as opposed to being community-based assets representative of a location.

Clubs need stalwart players like Wotton and Evans and Larrieu who have been around for years and feel deeply for the club, for the fans and who share their hopes and fears but it needs to go beyond that into the very structure, the very essence of what it is to be a club.

In the long term it would be hugely beneficial to not only create a path by which youngsters become apprentices become young pros become stalwarts but also for those stalwarts to have somewhere to go to too.

I have no doubt that a role simply has to be found for Paul Wotton and regret the absence of others like him (Evans and Larrieu immediately spring to mind) somewhere or other on the staff. We discard the presence, experience and respect of our legends all too readily and lose far more than just their hands-on obvious skills when we do.

Wotton's all, I believe, "badged up" and has no desire to leave. We should be seeking to exploit an opportunity here by trying him out in a minor role (reserve team manager, maybe?) with a view to his career progression onto 1st team coach, assistant manager and, eventually, manager. So try Wotton out in an under-role with limited consequences should he prove to be useless and find out if he's up to it. It's a common approach in just about every other industry to appraise, set targets and promote from within and to nurture and and exploit the talent you have to hand so why doesn't it happen in football?

Who needs managers when you have tactically aware fans like we have? The Demport would easily be up for the job.

Anyone know why Tommy Wright wasn't Shez' first choice/selection for the job (assuming it was his decision)? They were clearly a good pair at Oldham and Chesterfield. It seems Wright was instead hired as a scout for Argyle, so he was definitely available.

spowell92 wrote:

Anyone know why Tommy Wright wasn't Shez' first choice/selection for the job (assuming it was his decision)? They were clearly a good pair at Oldham and Chesterfield. It seems Wright was instead hired as a scout for Argyle, so he was definitely available.

He wasn't prepared to go Saaaaaf of the river guv'

They wanted him to live in Oreston?

seadog wrote:

They wanted him to live in Oreston?

Turnchapel, I heard.