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PostSubject: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:16 pm

Can someone explain what is meant by this term ? I take it its condescending but am confused as the opening welcome on this site welcomes ALL Argyle fans irrespective of their commitment etc. Isn't using a term like this in a derogatory manner about fellow fans a little bit strange ? Penzance Pirate has described me as a Jester - does this have the same meaning ?
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:20 pm

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Penzance Pirate has described me as a Jester

Rather more civil than scum, don't you think ?
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:26 pm

Does anyone really care
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:26 pm

greengenes wrote:
Can someone explain what is meant by this term ? I take it its condescending but am confused as the opening welcome on this site welcomes ALL Argyle fans irrespective of their commitment etc. Isn't using a term like this in a derogatory manner about fellow fans a little bit strange ? Penzance Pirate has described me as a Jester - does this have the same meaning ?
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'Avivas' are the antithesis of " freaky, vile, coward scum.

I hope that helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:29 pm

penzancepirate wrote:
greengenes wrote:
Penzance Pirate has described me as a Jester

Rather more civil than scum, don't you think ?

Indeed .
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:30 pm

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Does anyone really care

er .... me . Just asking as a member of this site .
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:31 pm

Rickler wrote:
greengenes wrote:
Can someone explain what is meant by this term ? I take it its condescending but am confused as the opening welcome on this site welcomes ALL Argyle fans irrespective of their commitment etc. Isn't using a term like this in a derogatory manner about fellow fans a little bit strange ? Penzance Pirate has described me as a Jester - does this have the same meaning ?
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'Avivas' are the antithesis of " freaky, vile, coward scum.

I hope that helps.

No not really . I was hoping for something more concrete .
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:42 pm

greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
Does anyone really care

er .... me . Just asking as a member of this site .

That's the point you see, nobody cares.
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:49 pm

GOB wrote:
greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
Does anyone really care

er .... me . Just asking as a member of this site .

That's the point you see, nobody cares.

So I'm a nobody . Gee thanks Gob ! A warm welcome awaits everyone on here unless you are a nobody . FFS !
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 6:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 7:05 pm

GOB wrote:
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Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 7:24 pm

greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
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Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........

Greengenes, (do I detect a Zappa reference there, Kudos if so). You've come on looking for a fight and nobody is obliging.

But to answer your question, An Aviva is someone who supports argyle through thick and thin to the point of geekiness (nowt wrong with that, every club has em and they are needed), on the flip side they belligerently defend a certain perspective towards the club to the point of outright hostility to those who disagree in the face of glaring evidence that they are wrong. In olden times they are the sort that would have burnt you at the stake for suggesting that the world was round.

Smiffy was an Aviva, then he turned now he's turned back.

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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 7:41 pm

Tiberius wrote:
greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
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Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........

Greengenes, (do I detect a Zappa reference there, Kudos if so). You've come on looking for a fight and nobody is obliging.

But to answer your question, An Aviva is someone who supports argyle through thick and thin to the point of geekiness (nowt wrong with that, every club has em and they are needed), on the flip side they belligerently defend a certain perspective towards the club to the point of outright hostility to those who disagree in the face of glaring evidence that they are wrong. In olden times they are the sort that would have burnt you at the stake for suggesting that the world was round.

Smiffy was an Aviva, then he turned now he's turned back.

Hope that helps

Zappa yes . No not looking for a fight - just open and honest and forthright debate . I come with some sort of preordained Avivaness bestowed on me by some on here . Is it unreasonable to ask for an explanation ? I joined after seeing a few comments criticising me on here thats all . And yep I like Ian Newell - I speak as I find .
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 7:56 pm

greengenes wrote:
Tiberius wrote:
greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
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Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........

Greengenes, (do I detect a Zappa reference there, Kudos if so). You've come on looking for a fight and nobody is obliging.

But to answer your question, An Aviva is someone who supports argyle through thick and thin to the point of geekiness (nowt wrong with that, every club has em and they are needed), on the flip side they belligerently defend a certain perspective towards the club to the point of outright hostility to those who disagree in the face of glaring evidence that they are wrong. In olden times they are the sort that would have burnt you at the stake for suggesting that the world was round.

Smiffy was an Aviva, then he turned now he's turned back.

Hope that helps

Zappa yes . No not looking for a fight - just open and honest and forthright debate . I come with some sort of preordained Avivaness bestowed on me by some on here . Is it unreasonable to ask for an explanation ? I joined after seeing a few comments criticising me on here thats all . And yep I like Ian Newell - I speak as I find .

Boy, do you need to get a life! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 8:00 pm

Always preferred Beards or Flat earthers myself.Green tints,Brown tints,Darksiders,Big gay bears deserve an honourable mention,too.
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 8:04 pm

GOB wrote:
greengenes wrote:
Tiberius wrote:
greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
Sleep

Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........

Greengenes, (do I detect a Zappa reference there, Kudos if so). You've come on looking for a fight and nobody is obliging.

But to answer your question, An Aviva is someone who supports argyle through thick and thin to the point of geekiness (nowt wrong with that, every club has em and they are needed), on the flip side they belligerently defend a certain perspective towards the club to the point of outright hostility to those who disagree in the face of glaring evidence that they are wrong. In olden times they are the sort that would have burnt you at the stake for suggesting that the world was round.

Smiffy was an Aviva, then he turned now he's turned back.

Hope that helps

Zappa yes . No not looking for a fight - just open and honest and forthright debate . I come with some sort of preordained Avivaness bestowed on me by some on here . Is it unreasonable to ask for an explanation ? I joined after seeing a few comments criticising me on here thats all . And yep I like Ian Newell - I speak as I find .

Boy, do you need to get a life! lol!

So glad I've made your evening Gob . My life is wonderful mate - wonderful . Great wife , great kids and great friends . Buy you a pint one day ?

Edited to add - great beautiful grandchildren too - keep me young they do . Love em so much .
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 8:15 pm

greengenes wrote:
Tiberius wrote:
greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
Sleep

Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........

Greengenes, (do I detect a Zappa reference there, Kudos if so). You've come on looking for a fight and nobody is obliging.

But to answer your question, An Aviva is someone who supports argyle through thick and thin to the point of geekiness (nowt wrong with that, every club has em and they are needed), on the flip side they belligerently defend a certain perspective towards the club to the point of outright hostility to those who disagree in the face of glaring evidence that they are wrong. In olden times they are the sort that would have burnt you at the stake for suggesting that the world was round.

Smiffy was an Aviva, then he turned now he's turned back.

Hope that helps

Zappa yes . No not looking for a fight - just open and honest and forthright debate . I come with some sort of preordained Avivaness bestowed on me by some on here . Is it unreasonable to ask for an explanation ? I joined after seeing a few comments criticising me on here thats all . And yep I like Ian Newell - I speak as I find .

I'm afraid I've only really ever dug 'hot rats' and 'apostrophe' Zappa for beginners I'm afraid. Some of it is a bit too 'out there'
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 8:49 pm

Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus!

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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 8:50 pm

Greenskin wrote:
Always preferred Beards or Flat earthers myself.Green tints,Brown tints,Darksiders,Big gay bears deserve an honourable mention,too.

Doesn't really help anybody though does it? Any of it. Does anybody think it is big or clever or funny or positive in any way at all? I don't think so. I know what the defence will be "it is only a bit of banter" and all that which funnily enough is exactly the excuse used by everybody's favourite Pasoti mod to excuse some of his nastier stuff. It is all horribly sneery too. No need for it at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 9:15 pm

So then Franny, are you a privateer or a pirate ? pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptyFri Dec 16, 2011 9:16 pm

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Greenskin wrote:
Always preferred Beards or Flat earthers myself.Green tints,Brown tints,Darksiders,Big gay bears deserve an honourable mention,too.

Doesn't really help anybody though does it? Any of it. Does anybody think it is big or clever or funny or positive in any way at all? I don't think so. I know what the defence will be "it is only a bit of banter" and all that which funnily enough is exactly the excuse used by everybody's favourite Pasoti mod to excuse some of his nastier stuff. It is all horribly sneery too. No need for it at all.

I agree,it isn't all that helpful but i would say that it reflects deep rooted and strongly held views on both sides of the Argyle outlook and that it isn't banter at all.Hostility is engrained deeply on both camps and won't go away in a hurry,unfortunate though that situation is.
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptySat Dec 17, 2011 1:05 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Doesn't really help anybody though does it? Any of it. Does anybody think it is big or clever or funny or positive in any way at all?

Ahem.... Well actually --

I think a lot of it is clever or funny, and quite often both. I wouldn't really argue the case for 'big', but 'positive'? I think negating a bunch of the tripe sprouted by some, is very positive!

Does it help anyone?

It helps me.

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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptySat Dec 17, 2011 1:37 am

Tring or freahty or both in fact i believe coined the phrase during the time the club were going to unbelievable lengths to milk that advert to death ie merchandise on sale and some posters on both sites seeing the advert for more than it was. The old saying was Giant Pasties and Aviva adverts for all
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptySat Dec 17, 2011 1:43 am

Bit like the term Bwana, which was coined as an African insult to white men, but became an honourific.
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PostSubject: Re: Avivas    Avivas  EmptySat Dec 17, 2011 8:02 am

Tiberius wrote:
greengenes wrote:
GOB wrote:
Sleep

Indeed . Your problem not mine .

Touch of Animal Farm on here - not everyone is equal obviously ...........

Greengenes, (do I detect a Zappa reference there, Kudos if so). You've come on looking for a fight and nobody is obliging.

But to answer your question, An Aviva is someone who supports argyle through thick and thin to the point of geekiness (nowt wrong with that, every club has em and they are needed), on the flip side they belligerently defend a certain perspective towards the club to the point of outright hostility to those who disagree in the face of glaring evidence that they are wrong. In olden times they are the sort that would have burnt you at the stake for suggesting that the world was round.

Smiffy was an Aviva, then he turned now he's turned back.

Hope that helps

Absolutely brilliant !

We must archive this definition.


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