Brent's publicity machine

Richard Blight wrote:

I wouldn't criticise JB too much for those comments. They may be examples that he thought fans would understand easily rather than quoting savings on building materials or processes. Save the criticism for when final plans are released.

I understand "we don't need Emerites quality seating" very well.

I don't agree with him.  

I'm betting that Brent's Chairmans seat will be better than the average fans.

Richard Blight wrote:

To be fair not all aspects of value engineering may impact the customers. It was explained to me once that architects do have a tendency to go over the top when designing their latest architectural masterpiece. A lot of savings may be made in areas that the customers wouldn't know anything about or even notice. The only people to notice may be the builders. When you drive into a new housing estate can you tell the difference between a timber framed house and a totally brick built one? Unlikely but one is much cheaper to build.

I wouldn't criticise JB too much for those comments. They may be examples that he thought fans would understand easily rather than quoting savings on building materials or processes. Save the criticism for when final plans are released.

He was on Spotlight at lunchtime and there will be more on Spotlight tonight.

Herald and two slots on Spotlight - the man he doth protest too much

Consider yourself clarified then Bod, not that you needed anything clarified in the first place. Still, ho hum.

I saw the lunchtime Spotlight effort and I swear he hesitated when the guy guy asked him if his businesses were well run affairs or words to that effect - lots of if buts and maybes being stored up for the plebs to drool over!! Take a hike mate - that shite little cut & shut stand is an insult to any true Argyle fan!!

I see Rovers have got the thumbs up to build their new ground. Who'd have thought it, Bristol Rovers having a larger capacity ground than HP

I did notice that it's the football stadium that's getting pared down, not taking a floor or two off the hotel or making the retail units smaller. Brent is preparing everybody to be dumbed down from the twice already dumbed down sport/business/customer interface already planned, the corporate experience is going to be like a trip to Aldershot. At least I hardly ever have set foot in that side of the ground, (upstairs that is).

Iggy wrote:

Wait for the Pres thumping his tub now, and I don't mean Lyndsay.

Rotflmfao.

Rickler wrote:

Richard Blight wrote:

I wouldn't criticise JB too much for those comments. They may be examples that he thought fans would understand easily rather than quoting savings on building materials or processes. Save the criticism for when final plans are released.

I understand "we don't need Emerites quality seating" very well.

I don't agree with him.  

I'm betting that Brent's Chairmans seat will be better than the average fans.

I can't really remember how good the quality of the seats were when we went to the Emirates. From memory there was enough room but the seats were........ well seats. Quite why Argyle fans shouldn't sit on seats as good as Arsenal fans is a good question. Although Arsenal fans do pay through the nose for their seats. Can anybody remember how good the seats were at the Emirates?

Hahah iggy, u were right. The prez was on page 10 having his say. For what it's worth!

Richard Blight wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Richard Blight wrote:

I wouldn't criticise JB too much for those comments. They may be examples that he thought fans would understand easily rather than quoting savings on building materials or processes. Save the criticism for when final plans are released.

I understand "we don't need Emerites quality seating" very well.

I don't agree with him.  

I'm betting that Brent's Chairmans seat will be better than the average fans.

I can't really remember how good the quality of the seats were when we went to the Emirates. From memory there was enough room but the seats were........ well seats. Quite why Argyle fans shouldn't sit on seats as good as Arsenal fans is a good question. Although Arsenal fans do pay through the nose for their seats. Can anybody remember how good the seats were at the Emirates?

They were very good. Slightly padded and around a third larger than your average 'common or garden' football stadia seat.

The seats at the Emirates were posh, heated, back massage feature and covered in moleskin.

I suppose it could be built in mud or clay instead of those pesky damned expensive breeze blocks.

I remember the porkster stating that we would have a 21st century ground once built, yes but when it gets built in the 22nd century, that's no fookin good.

Or howz about the stand being covered with tarpaulin ala our temporary tent at the back of the offices, fook I shouldn't be giving him ideas.

Why didn't they ask him about Wrathall?

Greenskin wrote:

Why didn't they ask him about Wrathall?

The sly fucker probably got the BBC to sign TOR agreements before he'd do an interview.

Oh thank you Mr Brent, thank you so much, I know that you are a very important man and are very busy 'building' things, but I would like to thank you for taking the time to let me know that the £183 million/ish Pavillions/HHP/Civic Centre things WILL happen, and please don't worry about the seating, a wooden bench is good enough for the likes of me, and stainless steel rails? may i suggest scaffold tubes? Once again thank you (and I am sure Tudor says so too).

If any Argyle fan is convinced by this guy after an interview like that, well I'm fcuked - saw it at lunch time and looks even worse a second viewing tonight. Please will someone actually state if this guy has even built a brick shitehouse in his 'own' business life? Sham!!

It's all a 21st century take on the Emporer's new clothes

Richard Blight wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Richard Blight wrote:

I wouldn't criticise JB too much for those comments. They may be examples that he thought fans would understand easily rather than quoting savings on building materials or processes. Save the criticism for when final plans are released.

I understand "we don't need Emerites quality seating" very well.

I don't agree with him.  

I'm betting that Brent's Chairmans seat will be better than the average fans.

I can't really remember how good the quality of the seats were when we went to the Emirates. From memory there was enough room but the seats were........ well seats. Quite why Argyle fans shouldn't sit on seats as good as Arsenal fans is a good question. Although Arsenal fans do pay through the nose for their seats. Can anybody remember how good the seats were at the Emirates?

I am betting the seats in the new Grandstand won't have more legroom than the ones in the horseshoe currently - apart from the 'premier' seating section, and the ones in the directors box of course..

Do fans consider the current seating in the horse shoe to have enough room? I certainly don't. Can we have the legroom in the new Grandstand that was in the last Lyndy stand, please?

Or is that to "Emirate" for Argyle?

Why hypothisise about the minutiae of it ?....It ain't happening !

spowell92 wrote:

I see Rovers have got the thumbs up to build their new ground. Who'd have thought it, Bristol Rovers having a larger capacity ground than HP

And Southend. And Brentford.

Reading have planning permission to go up to 38,000, Cardiff 32,000, Swansea 32,000.

Colchester can go up to 18,000 by filling in the corners and adding extra tiers to the existing stands. Rotherham can go up to 20,000 by doing the same.

Actually, just read this:

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Frank Bullitt wrote:

spowell92 wrote:

I see Rovers have got the thumbs up to build their new ground. Who'd have thought it, Bristol Rovers having a larger capacity ground than HP

And Southend. And Brentford.

Reading have planning permission to go up to 38,000, Cardiff 32,000, Swansea 32,000.

Colchester can go up to 18,000 by filling in the corners and adding extra tiers to the existing stands. Rotherham can go up to 20,000 by doing the same.

Actually, just read this:

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Just amazed that a club like Mansfield will have a larger Grandstand than us. I mean there grandstand is pretty pants, it looks cheap, but then again ours doesn't sound like its going to be a luxury.

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Meanwhile, the exercise has resulted in no redundancies among hotel staff and few at the hotels head offices.

Only a 'few' more people facing the worry of eating, keeping a roof over their heads, and paying the bills until they manage to find another job. So that's all good.

Can somebody who understands this finance crap please explain how administration can also be 'restructuring'? Only they're usually two completely different things: if you're restructuring, you sell - not put companies into administration.

Don't worry Peggy, bRents interview is almost like the vote of confidence statements that clubs make before they fire an underperfoming manager, he's feeling the pressure and scrutiny.
Just seen what the iPad has done to Brent's name, clever.

Whether the HHP development goes ahead or not depends entirely on the faith that institutional investors have in Brent's ability to actually deliver something that will work commercially. Brent absolutely had to counter the groundswell of scepticism and doubt about that ability, which has been feeding social media and the press, to stand any chance whatsoever of obtaining funding. It has been a PR disaster even before the re-appointment of Wrathall and the forced administration of all but 4 or 5 of his Akkeron hotels.

He has precisely zero track-record on delivery at present and whatever reputation he had as a savvy businessman is currently in tatters. The truly awful current HHP plans will be the subject of pretty thorough risk-assessment by his bankers/investors. I will be amazed if they pass this test.

But what is the alternative? A club still riddled in debt, stripped of the little assets it once had and continuing to be a failing business. One thing we can be sure of is that people like Brent are ruthless when it comes to protecting their own wealth. If he can't get the HHP plans funded he'll have absolutely no hesitation in placing the club into administration as swiftly as his hotels. It's really a lose/lose situation.

As far as I'm concerned if Brent did do that it definitely would not be a lose/lose situation.