No Complaints about new football league Sponsor?

Greenjock wrote:

I wouldn't think Carling would be able to sponsor the DJM junior football league, nor Benson and Hedges but then I doubt they would ask.

I must admit though I don't sit at home shaking my fist worrying about who's sponsoring Argyle but I'm surprised dogbreath Hooper hasn't complained about FES/FIL being involved at Argyle because he's easily outraged and is a moral crusader. Hypocrisy again from the sanctimonious prick.

No they wouldnt Jock thats for sure, as is the fact that teams in the DJM are not allowed to get sponsored by licensed Alcohol suppliers so im led to believe. I wonder if the DJM would object if my U'11's had Ladbrooks across thier shirts!.

Loan companys and Betting hasnt really been smeared enouth that it is deemed naughty, especially when borrowing helps the economy.

I havent got a problem with who sponsors what to be honest unless its door to door lenders like Provedent who really pray on the poor, targeting high unemployment area's with thier pathetic high interest rates especially at xmas when they know people are desperate, then they are still paying the bloody thing off the following xmas.

125+1 wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It isn't a good question though, nor was it designed to be. It is a person trying to get a rise out of others so as to (in his quite sad little mind) justify his tag line.

It's actually pretty crap trolling, though it isn't surprising that you're impressed.... 

Really Trolling, I see it got a rise out of you, no surprise there, when everyone esle has pretty much answered what was a simple question honestly and fairly.

Perhaps you need to take a look at yourself.

Being that I couldn't really give a toss about payday lenders or Skybet, why should I need to take a look at myself?

Almost by accident, that is a perfect example of how you seek to label everyone as thinking the same about everything, only you got it wrong. LOL

Czarcasm wrote:

125+1 wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It isn't a good question though, nor was it designed to be. It is a person trying to get a rise out of others so as to (in his quite sad little mind) justify his tag line.

It's actually pretty crap trolling, though it isn't surprising that you're impressed.... 

Really Trolling, I see it got a rise out of you, no surprise there, when everyone esle has pretty much answered what was a simple question honestly and fairly.

Perhaps you need to take a look at yourself.

Being that I couldn't really give a toss about payday lenders or Skybet, why should I need to take a look at myself?

Almost by accident, that is a perfect example of how you seek to label everyone as thinking the same about everything, only you got it wrong. LOL

You know me so well NOT.

You just wanna make this post into what its not intended to be so it looks like you got it wrong, i value differing opinions or at least people with thier own opinion, not just following a pack like yourself , so toddle off  

125+1 wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It isn't a good question though, nor was it designed to be. It is a person trying to get a rise out of others so as to (in his quite sad little mind) justify his tag line.

It's actually pretty crap trolling, though it isn't surprising that you're impressed.... 

Really Trolling, I see it got a rise out of you, no surprise there, when everyone esle has pretty much answered what was a simple question honestly and fairly.

Perhaps you need to take a look at yourself.

The initial post did seem to be trolling for a bit of a reaction but raised a valid question at the same time.

Why not make fes/fil the short sponsors like most teams do. Like I said another thread the under five shirt is so small the fes/fil badge is to big and theres no room for his name.

Don't forget, Bond Timber murder actual trees. It's as if The Friends of Central Park just don't matter to James Brent. Where are all the owls gokng to live? Will someone please think of the owls.

hairy j wrote:

Don't forget, Bond Timber murder actual trees. It's as if The Friends of Central Park just don't matter to James Brent. Where are all the owls gokng to live? Will someone please think of the owls.

Don't forget the programs at argyle are made from paper which also comes from trees. What next stop buying programs.     

Bond Timber are like Undertakers. They clear up the debris after the tree has been murdered. They perform a service for the greater good and therefore are totally innocent.

I suspect most of the moral outrage is because of who rather than what or more to the point by association. Bookies and money lenders are two different animals so comparison is a bit daft. However, individually they are both bad for family finances. If bookies offer you a real chance then why are most bookmaker companies wealthy. If loan companies offered a service for the good of the nation then why do they make such large profits. As bad as each other but in different fields. There are very very few businesses that run for the good of the public anyway. They exist to make money and as much of it as possible.

lawnmowerman wrote:

hairy j wrote:

Don't forget, Bond Timber murder actual trees. It's as if The Friends of Central Park just don't matter to James Brent. Where are all the owls gokng to live? Will someone please think of the owls.

Don't forget the programs at argyle are made from paper which also comes from trees. What next stop buying programs.     

So...if we keep the gates down to only 5/6000 we will be doing the environment a favour

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

Bond Timber are like Undertakers.    They clear up the debris after the tree has been murdered.    They perform a service for the greater good and therefore are totally innocent.

I suspect most of the moral outrage is because of who rather than what or more to the point by association.    Bookies and money lenders are two different animals so comparison is a bit daft.    However, individually they are both bad for family finances.    If bookies offer you a real chance then why are most bookmaker companies wealthy.    If loan companies offered a service for the good of the nation then why do they make such large profits.    As bad as each other but in different fields.    There are very very few businesses that run for the good of the public anyway.    They exist to make money and as much of it as possible.

Get in debt with a bookie.......and you will be looking for a moneylender.......and it's down hill from there.

125+1 wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

125+1 wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It isn't a good question though, nor was it designed to be. It is a person trying to get a rise out of others so as to (in his quite sad little mind) justify his tag line.

It's actually pretty crap trolling, though it isn't surprising that you're impressed.... 

Really Trolling, I see it got a rise out of you, no surprise there, when everyone esle has pretty much answered what was a simple question honestly and fairly.

Perhaps you need to take a look at yourself.

Being that I couldn't really give a toss about payday lenders or Skybet, why should I need to take a look at myself?

Almost by accident, that is a perfect example of how you seek to label everyone as thinking the same about everything, only you got it wrong. LOL

You know me so well NOT.

You just wanna make this post into what its not intended to be so it looks like you got it wrong, i value differing opinions or at least people with thier own opinion, not just following a pack like yourself , so toddle off  

But that's just it, people like Zyph and Sensible (ironically who are posting on this thread)don't follow the supposed party line, so your ALL IN ONE DIRECTION tag line makes you look a bit silly dunnit.

ZYPH wrote:

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

Bond Timber are like Undertakers.    They clear up the debris after the tree has been murdered.    They perform a service for the greater good and therefore are totally innocent.

I suspect most of the moral outrage is because of who rather than what or more to the point by association.    Bookies and money lenders are two different animals so comparison is a bit daft.    However, individually they are both bad for family finances.    If bookies offer you a real chance then why are most bookmaker companies wealthy.    If loan companies offered a service for the good of the nation then why do they make such large profits.    As bad as each other but in different fields.    There are very very few businesses that run for the good of the public anyway.    They exist to make money and as much of it as possible.

Get in debt with a bookie.......and you will be looking for a moneylender.......and it's down hill from there.

how is that possible in the first place?

'id like to place a bet'
'thatll be £40 and the odds are 10/1'
'i dont have any cash to pay you'
'get out of my shop'

Mapperley, darling wrote:

ZYPH wrote:

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

Bond Timber are like Undertakers.    They clear up the debris after the tree has been murdered.    They perform a service for the greater good and therefore are totally innocent.

I suspect most of the moral outrage is because of who rather than what or more to the point by association.    Bookies and money lenders are two different animals so comparison is a bit daft.    However, individually they are both bad for family finances.    If bookies offer you a real chance then why are most bookmaker companies wealthy.    If loan companies offered a service for the good of the nation then why do they make such large profits.    As bad as each other but in different fields.    There are very very few businesses that run for the good of the public anyway.    They exist to make money and as much of it as possible.

Get in debt with a bookie.......and you will be looking for a moneylender.......and it's down hill from there.

how is that possible in the first place?

'id like to place a bet'
'thatll be £40 and the odds are 10/1'
'i dont have any cash to pay you'
'get out of my shop'

Then they go to Nickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk and ask for a loan  

The truth is that not every post on this site is negative or knocking the club, the people that portray it as such obviously have an agenda, I find that strange, that is all.
#musttryharder #pooreffort

Iggy wrote:

The truth is that not every post on this site is negative or knocking the club, the people that portray it as such obviously have an agenda, I find that strange, that is all.
#musttryharder #pooreffort

Indeed. The origins of the perceived 'anti' stance, go right back to the way Pasoti has attempted to silence those not showing 100% support of the decision making at the club. Before the internet we just used to moan about missed opportunities to mates down the pub.
The likes of Newell have polarised opinion through his obvious 'ambition' and resultant support of anyone in control at HP.

Iggy wrote:

The truth is that not every post on this site is negative or knocking the club, the people that portray it as such obviously have an agenda, I find that strange, that is all.
#musttryharder #pooreffort

Maybe telling the truth means we do have an agenda?

The last 5 years have been catastrophic for PAFC and the club has been a total shambles for a long time. Brent has not managed to turn things around yet and the club continues to lurch from crisis to crisis. The users of this site are not anti Argyle; they are just pointing out the reality of our situation, unlike the superfans who are pretending that everything is wonderful.

I agree with Iggy/Tring/Frank. But then, it's just as well these fine gentlemen point things out as I can't think for myself.  

punchdrunk wrote:

Mapperley, darling wrote:

ZYPH wrote:

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

Bond Timber are like Undertakers.    They clear up the debris after the tree has been murdered.    They perform a service for the greater good and therefore are totally innocent.

I suspect most of the moral outrage is because of who rather than what or more to the point by association.    Bookies and money lenders are two different animals so comparison is a bit daft.    However, individually they are both bad for family finances.    If bookies offer you a real chance then why are most bookmaker companies wealthy.    If loan companies offered a service for the good of the nation then why do they make such large profits.    As bad as each other but in different fields.    There are very very few businesses that run for the good of the public anyway.    They exist to make money and as much of it as possible.

Get in debt with a bookie.......and you will be looking for a moneylender.......and it's down hill from there.

how is that possible in the first place?

'id like to place a bet'
'thatll be £40 and the odds are 10/1'
'i dont have any cash to pay you'
'get out of my shop'

Then they go to Nickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk and ask for a loan  

Put it on the slate till payday....has been around since betting was first thought of....still happens now.

my eyes have been opened by that, zyph

hairy j wrote:

Don't forget, Bond Timber murder actual trees. It's as if The Friends of Central Park just don't matter to James Brent. Where are all the owls gokng to live? Will someone please think of the owls.

 

Czarcasm wrote:

I agree with Iggy/Tring/Frank. But then, it's just as well these fine gentlemen point things out as I can't think for myself.  

I fink you can, my dear old thing.

Whilst on the subject, I was finking about those days, just before Holloway and his team departed and we few dissidents on the farm, who wouldn't trust in stapes and his lovely family   , were appealing for the then owners to promote the potential of the club and actively seek out investors/new owners preferably, with enough 'wonga' to back Holloway and inspire the latent fanbase.
Jones wasn't popular with Newell and co and he was making similar noises to us. He even mailed some of us with 'inside info' to stoke the fires of discontent with the Stapleton regime. The one I remember most was when Holloway was about to leave and we were told that Holloway had asked Stapes for financial backing in order to retain players and attract one or two more, in order to have a go for promotion to the PL. We were told that Stapes had said he'd seek out investment but that when Holloway found out, just prior to the home game with Norwich in November 2007, that the board had done nothing and had no intention of doing anything, the game was up.
Now the self interested tw@t tells dissidents to the present corrupt regime, to feck off and support Manu

Very similar to the stance that Woolwell green takes. 

It's true that not every post is negative on ATD but it is equally true that some posters are irrespective of the subject. Rather than have a view on each individual topic they post that it is bad no matter what. It's equally true that some things are bad but not true that everything that happens Argyle wise is.

As for pasoti, it used to be a place I visited occasionally if I wanted to find out the latest buzz or what was happening as it appeared there first. It is no longer that site so I personally don't bother to even look there anymore except on a rare visit. I work on the principal that if it is shit and doesn't add anything anymore then why bother with it at all. Works for me and then I don't have to read all the crap that gets spouted. Mind you half the threads get posted on here so I suppose visiting there in person isn't that necessary anyway.

Captain Sensible.Stongly disagree on your second paragraph.PASOTI is very much the place to be if you want the latest buzz on all things Argyle.Also dont agree with your principles,not many do though,even on this site you are regarded as boring.

Pasoti seems more like a sticky thread forum for Ian Newell and friends to do very loud and very ostentatious charity work, arrange coaches, praise FIL/FES/Nikkkkkkk and for PL2 to announce "welcome aboard the good ship Mayflower" to any one who signs. They also act as an unofficial website for the club. There's not that much discussion at all. Terraces is hilarious these days, it's just Tyhee and Herb having in-joke conversations.

The rumours folder is ok but ther than that, it's very much the forum Newell has always wanted - him at the forefront of everything.

Have you noticed too how PL2 and the mods use the worde 'we' when they refer to club decisions, club actions? It's pretty odd.