PAFC Planning Applications now online

Iggy wrote:

Newell loves his city, apparently because he can leave his car and return to it a few hours later and it's still there! I know some people that could help out on that one.

yeah because no other city on gods earth can you do that.

I notice the monster size ice rink is bigger than the grandstand in the pics i guess that confirms the people of peverell will lose their seaviews :#(

Pokesdown wrote:

a feckin dentists surgery. god give me feckin strength.

You couldn't make it up!!!!!

Too depressed to write anymore!

Freathy wrote:

Friends of Central Park are incandescent with rage over this. They've been leafleting Stoke and Milehouse asking for support against the development. This hideous pile of shite with a ministand added on as an afterthought must NEVER be built. Is br*nt trying to break the world record of how many completely random buildings he can fit into a small area? Argyle and the people of Plymouth are being stitched up by this money grabbing banker and he must NEVER be allowed to get away with it! And the utter contempt with which Argyle is being treated by this individual with the main entrance to the stadium hidden away behind all the other crap down some dark alley is f***ing outrageous. Even I didn't think it would be this bad.

MASSIVE FAIL

BRENT OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you think they used the designers/architects equivalent of Fifa 2013 to come up with this amateur, pokey, stinking, filthy, legoland, pile of crock of shi.t.

So fecking village, he has not only shit on Argyle, he has got the biggest helicopter ever built to drop the biggest pile of it on us whilst we are sitting in the stadium watching everybody else's rejects whilst we dice with our league status, oh yes, we know where he has been busy!

So angry, i had to get this out of my system!!!

Plans look ok, pitty the grandstand aint any bigger

Dane. wrote:

My company is involved in the tender process- hoping to becoming a sub contractor on the project.

Show me the money !!!!

Bearing in mind how well known you are and some of your previous tweets, posts and views if I was your boss I would be going nuts about your lack of discretion in the tendering process.

About the road and how it can be moved in the future to increase the capacity of the ground, why not just build it in this second position in the first place and save money?

The Hearld Article


I challenge James Brent to tell me how the ground can be extended when the complexes prevent the new stand being extended/expanded, the lyndhurst and barn park will only have a few seats added to it but beyond that they too cant be extended/expanded, because of the road that is going to be right outside (another thing i don't like as that is going to cause accidents on match days). The Devonport end again could have a few seats added and could be extended/expanded, but even that would be pointless given there isn't much room to do that to make it worthwhile given the space behind the stand is that great.
While 17,700 capacity would fine for us at the moment it wont be for long once the team move up the leagues and play attractive/winning football as we all know that's what attracts fair weather fans to games not cheerleaders and flags.

17,700 capacity stadium when the new stand is built with it being upped to 20000 max is going to be too small for a club that has ambition for championship even premiership football.
A 17,700 capacity stadium when the new stand is built with the potential of upping it too 25000 should be sort for imo.

As i say I'm not against the Cinema,Ice rink, School and Hotel being built on the car park but if they impact negatively on the club and its future aswell as put lives at risk by its road access being right outside a busy football ground then i am not happy at all if the council approve this.

Also friends of central park where in on the plans? thats odd.

I think it looks very good to be honest. I have a serious issue with the restricted capacity, but aesthetically I think it is fine.

Womble wrote:

I think it looks very good to be honest. I have a serious issue with the restricted capacity, but aesthetically I think it is fine.

Thats everyones issue i feel definitely mine and as a result i cant be supportive of the plans.

comments been deleted on the hearld site when most where stating what most fans are saying :O

Womble wrote:

I think it looks very good to be honest. I have a serious issue with the restricted capacity, but aesthetically I think it is fine.

I don't think it looks good at all. Those are the images designed to make the complex look at its best. The lack of light between the ice rink and stand is a major aesthetic concern. On a gloomy day that is going to be cold and dark no matter what time of day.

Morally it seems that Brent has drawn up the corporate drawbridge. It seems that as others have suspected that there is no access to the top shelf of seats unless you are enjoying the "corporate experience" Generations have sat in that grandstand and not been forced to buy a prawn sandwich once. it is outrageous if they are excluded.

It looks feckin awful,and on another note i see the Herald are removing any comments that disagree with the proposals...disgraceful, i knew Brent was pure Scum, but i never knew he had bought the press as well

Anyone who doesn't support the plans isn't welcome at home park then.

Yea Man wrote:

Anyone who doesn't support the plans isn't welcome at home park then.

Fair one, i might just take them up on their offer then, let the happy clappy brain-dead Idiots sit on their own with other like-minded Avivas in their in their stupid, shitty, stinking lego, mini-stand with a cinema, dentist, ice-rink and cinema towering above HP..these people are so feckin thick they are beyond reasoning if they think this is good for PAFC.
They can enjoy the crappy mini-stand, i wont be their to witness it, thank god, im done with PAFC for good if this goes through

Article now on BBC

Link

punchdrunk wrote:

It looks feckin awful,and on another note i see the Herald are removing any comments that disagree with the proposals...disgraceful, i knew Brent was pure Scum, but i never knew he had bought the press as well

if nool and the gang can hijack the herald so can we,
so lets be overly gushing about it then : oh please sir james of derriford, build us this fantastic site and we'll be eternally grateful, yours sychophanticly, ian x

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Yea Man wrote:

Anyone who doesn't support the plans isn't welcome at home park then.

Fair one, i might just take them up on their offer then, let the happy clappy brain-dead Idiots sit on their own with other like-minded Avivas in their in their stupid, shitty, stinking lego, mini-stand with a cinema, dentist, ice-rink and cinema towering above HP..these people are so feckin thick they are beyond reasoning if they think this is good for PAFC.
They can enjoy the crappy mini-stand, i wont be their to witness it, thank god, im done with PAFC for good if this goes through

James Brent has stolen our club.

"We haven't got a Plan B," he said.

So much for "consultation" then!

Apart from the dodgy road access, crowd safety outside the ground, the development spilling outside the footprint of land that Brent owns, pinching land off the council that is really Argyle's in all but contractual deed, the school in the corner of the ground, a dentistry (I mean... really?), the ice rink that is too small, the grandstand that is too small, the retail outlets that won't generate a bean for the club and the destruction of the top end of Central Park it is the no Plan B and lack of community input (let alone fan input and we all know the extent to which both PASB and AFT have been excluded from the process ~ it sounds as if FOCP has had more input than us!) into the planning of the scheme that sticks in the craw almost as much as the fact that Home Park will never be expanded and, as a result, never be able to support the club financially in the way that Brent suggests it will.

I'm happy to accept the £1m extra net income (is that the same as profit in Corporate Bullshit-speak?) and that will be massively significant to Argyle in League 2. It might even be quite a bit in League 1 but in the CCC it is but a spit in the ocean.

Then what?

All of the "potential" will already have been exploited and both every last asset the club has and every concession that can be screwed out of the council will be gone, and Argyle will be banging its head on the same old glass ceiling that we always have except this time there will be no hope at all of doing anything about it.

I'm all for recognising what we are as a club and any sensible planning has to reflect that but it isn't what we are that excites me. The thing that excites me is what we could be given decent stewardship by the club's owner.

And as a direct result of this plan what we could be amounts to not very much better than we are now and that is not good enough.

At least one of the major components of the plan needs to be removed and built elsewhere and then the whole thing needs to re-jigged, the stadium's expansion possibilities need to be realistically future-proofed and the whole plan needs to be allowed the space to breathe.

Or else we will have obliterated swathes of Central Park for nought other than to make a very rich man even richer. It's all devastatingly sad.

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Sir Francis Drake wrote:

"We haven't got a Plan B," he said.

So much for "consultation" then!

Apart from the dodgy road access, crowd safety outside the ground, the development spilling outside the footprint of land that Brent owns, pinching land off the council that is really Argyle's in all but contractual deed, the school in the corner of the ground, a dentistry (I mean... really?), the ice rink that is too small, the grandstand that is too small, the retail outlets that won't generate a bean for the club and the destruction of the top end of Central Park it is the no Plan B and lack of community input (let alone fan input and we all know the extent to which both PASB and AFT have been excluded from the process ~ it sounds as if FOCP has had more input than us!) into the planning of the scheme that sticks in the craw almost as much as the fact that Home Park will never be expanded and, as a result, never be able to support the club financially in the way that Brent suggests it will.

I'm happy to accept the £1m extra net income (is that the same as profit in Corporate Bullshit-speak?) and that will be massively significant to Argyle in League 2. It might even be quite a bit in League 1 but in the CCC it is but a spit in the ocean.

Then what?

All of the "potential" will already have been exploited and both every last asset the club has and every concession that can be screwed out of the council will be gone, and Argyle will be banging its head on the same old glass ceiling that we always have except this time there will be no hope at all of doing anything about it.

I'm all for recognising what we are as a club and any sensible planning has to reflect that but it isn't what we are that excites me. The thing that excites me is what we could be given decent stewardship by the club's owner.

And as a direct result of this plan what we could be amounts to not very much better than we are now and that is not good enough.

At least one of the major components of the plan needs to be removed and built elsewhere and then the whole thing needs to re-jigged, the stadium's expansion possibilities need to be realistically future-proofed and the whole plan needs to be allowed the space to breathe.

Or else we will have obliterated swathes of Central Park for nought other than to make a very rich man even richer. It's all devastatingly sad.

thing is he has already stated that the monies will go to the shareholders.

the guy is a banker of the highest order. that statement could be perceived as blackmail

He is making out that all this has been done to benefit Plymouth Argyle, nothing could be further from the truth.
Argyle will be dramatically affected by the plans being approved.

Mapperley, darling wrote:

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If he wants to throw a paddy over it then i only have one thing to say! well ray charles anyway




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makes you wanna cry doesnt it we will have one of the smallest stadiums soon

Dane. wrote:

Plans look ok, pitty the grandstand aint any bigger

Strange. So who posted this on Facebook earlier?

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Dane Bunney Looks shit. Small time development for a small time outfit
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I've just put this on the Herald article. Let's see if it stays....

What an abomination this whole development is...... And the fact that dissenters are being 'silenced' by forums such as this is not professional and surely flouts some kind of professional code. The biased reporting is not something to be proud of. In fact it's not reporting - it's a publicity machine. Time to take this whole debacle to Private Eye in my opinion. Let's make it national the whole mess that this thing has become and the orchestration of a 'all the people are happy with HHP' view on the world.

People are not happy. And the opposition to Planning will be forthcoming. Make no mistake!”

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THIS is the best thing on that page.....