PAFC Planning Applications now online

I think I am right in the following.....

The retail catering units are to be built with Class A3 planning permission. This allows for both restaurant & take-away facilities. Increased litter may be seen to be a problem following from this. BUT, more importantly, this allows for the premises to be changed to general retail and business use in future should any of the catering establishments not succeed..

There is no planning permission required to change A3 restuarants and cafes to A1 shops.

Having said that A3 commercial properties are a kind of wholly grail and will always demand a premium on rent over other classes.

I believe that A3 is much harder to obtain because of litter because of late night trade as opposed to most retail outlets who are 9 to 5.

Wonder who is behind this twitter account?

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Some common themes coming through in such a few posts - if your not from Plymouth butt out, a dig at the FoCP and the usual nimbyism insult if your against the development.  All in the space of 6 short tweets.

And though there is no searchable #pafc hashtag and after only being live for a hour it's already been picked up and retweeted by the proxy associated director.  Go figure.

Dougie wrote:

Wonder who is behind this twitter account?

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Some common themes coming through in such a few posts - if your not from Plymouth butt out, a dig at the FoCP and the usual nimbyism insult if your against the development.  All in the space of 6 short tweets.

And though there is no searchable #pafc hashtag and after only being live for a hour it's already been picked up and retweeted by the proxy associated director.  Go figure.

Is there a sense of desperation creeping in because Ian & Co. seem to be becoming more desperate by the day. I think there's hope yet!

Apparently building a load of unnecessary cinemas, hotels and macdonalds restaurants will give central park back to the people of Plymouth???? according to newell's new twitter account.

       

Plymouth Lover ‏@Plymouth2013 1h wrote:

The Friends of Central Park? Are they? They've let the park drift, this will give it back to the people of Plymouth. Leisure not just dogs.

I was told by my Palace supporting friend this morning that they have a very large Sainsbury's built into one of their stands. It closes down when there is a game on.

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I was told by my Palace supporting friend this morning that they have a very large Sainsbury's built into one of their stands. It closes down when there is a game on.

You wouldn't get a very large 'anything' in brent's blunder of a ministand.

You get a very large feck up.

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Wonder who is behind this twitter account?

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Some common themes coming through in such a few posts - if your not from Plymouth butt out, a dig at the FoCP and the usual nimbyism insult if your against the development.  All in the space of 6 short tweets.

And though there is no searchable #pafc hashtag and after only being live for a hour it's already been picked up and retweeted by the proxy associated director.  Go figure.

Just how many Twatter, Pasoti you name it accounts does that Mental Case need ?
The bloke should be sectioned under the mental health act.

All these Argyle 'fans' who are apparently so enthusiasticly in favour of brent's plans MUST either be personally benefiting financially from the development or are just very sexually attracted to brent. There really cannot be any other explanation for their unwavering support of something that is so obviously damaging to the football club they purport (thanks PJ) to support.

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Dougie wrote:

Wonder who is behind this twitter account?

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Some common themes coming through in such a few posts - if your not from Plymouth butt out, a dig at the FoCP and the usual nimbyism insult if your against the development.  All in the space of 6 short tweets.

And though there is no searchable #pafc hashtag and after only being live for a hour it's already been picked up and retweeted by the proxy associated director.  Go figure.

Just how many Twatter, Pasoti you name it accounts does that Mental Case need ?
The bloke should be sectioned under the mental health act.

Do they realise how obvious they are?

The best one was Webby being @argylemoans.

I think the support comes from the fact it's something to do with Argyle and therefore they must support... hence the COYG and Argyle forever footnotes. It's quite odd but quite understandable. To these people, James Brent is the man that bleeds green and cries when we lose that IJN has told them he is.

Most of these people log into pasoti once in a while to flick through some threads, see if there's any rumours and don't post that much. They see all the IJN stickied threads about charity and shirt auctions and free coaches and IJN looks like a stand-up guy who's giving his all for the club and the fans. When someone like says Brent's a good 'un and the HHP development is a good idea, who are they to argue?

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Wonder who is behind this twitter account?

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Some common themes coming through in such a few posts - if your not from Plymouth butt out, a dig at the FoCP and the usual nimbyism insult if your against the development.  All in the space of 6 short tweets.

And though there is no searchable #pafc hashtag and after only being live for a hour it's already been picked up and retweeted by the proxy associated director.  Go figure.

The other, giveaway, of course, is the random, sprinkling of, commas.

#educatedwanker

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Dougie wrote:

Wonder who is behind this twitter account?

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Some common themes coming through in such a few posts - if your not from Plymouth butt out, a dig at the FoCP and the usual nimbyism insult if your against the development.  All in the space of 6 short tweets.

And though there is no searchable #pafc hashtag and after only being live for a hour it's already been picked up and retweeted by the proxy associated director.  Go figure.

The other, giveaway, of course, is the random, sprinkling of, commas.

#educatedwanker

and the following of his "real friends"

With all of these multi accounts he has I'm surprised he doesn't ever get them mixed up and sign in as the wrong one.

Oh wait he did that using the pasotimods account didn't he!

Plans for Home Park should make it a destination of choice



I HAVE been reading some of the recent correspondence and articles about the proposed development at Higher Home Park. Until recently I was actively involved with the Friends of Central Park group and would like publicly to raise some of my concerns about the proposed development.
I would like to begin by stating that it is my belief that Plymouth would benefit from a viable and successful football club and accept that under the Central Park Area Action plan a hotel was part of the compromise needed to achieve this aim. Equally I accept the need for much improved ice skating facilities.
Recent figures in the Herald (June 15) have highlighted the need to improve the general health of Plymothians. With this in mind I ask the question as to why (other than for strictly commercial reasons) should a cinema be part of this complex? It surely does not meet the aims of the founders of Central Park who wanted to focus on the health and well being of the people of Plymouth.
In 2010-11 the Friends of Central Park (FOCP) engaged a planning consultant who advised us that the waste material dumped on Zoo Field was the responsibility of the local authority. After several meetings Plymouth City Council (PCC) accepted liability for the removal of the spoil and agreed to return the area to green space. At that point the land was under the ownership of the city council. Under the Freedom of Information Act I have attempted to ascertain information about the conditions under which the Akkeron Group have obtained the leasehold of the land upon which they propose to build a hotel. If this land is to be utilised for commercial development then surely its value increases and the income; not just s106 money; should be used to defray council tax bills. I am certain that your reporters will have more success than me in solving this mystery.



As part of his election campaign Cllr Evans promised to protect the park. His cabinet recently accepted the Masterplan for the park. This plan had been developed in conjunction with council officers and a variety of park users/ stakeholders including Devon FA, other sports representatives, the Headmistress of a local primary school as well as the FOCP. One of the agreed objectives was a proposed café/hub, the Devonport Park model, to serve the needs of junior footballers, families with young children using the play park and other casual users of the park. Funding had been identified to deliver some of this facility. I note that in spite of this plan being accepted by the cabinet, changing facilities are included in Akkeron's plans, fundamentally altering the whole scheme. What is the purpose of consultation if plans can be so easily overturned at the whim of developers?
In your letters column Mr E Shillabeer asked about planting trees in Central Park.The FOCP were successful in bidding for Green Space Challenge funding for a community orchard and the replacement of trees in one of the tree lined avenues. Both these projects have had to be put on hold until the outcome of the planning application is known. Trees will not grow and produce fruit in land contaminated by the spoil from the underground car park as is being planned for Zoo Field.
On the subject of spoil, if PCC are to provide land where spoil can be deposited is a commercial rate being received?
Commercial development of facilities, linked to sporting activities, were highlighted in the Area Action plan for Central Park making it a destination of choice. I am sure that if the Akkeron plans were more in tune with these aspirations there would be less public outcry against the development. Plymouth could then have the iconic sporting arena it deserves as well as preserving its green lung. I urge everyone to send in their concerns to the planning dept but say no to a new cinema at Home Park.

PAT ROBINSON
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Intereresting article about hown town and city centres are losing out on trade because planners have been allowing large numbers of out-of town developments instead of trying to get businesses to stay in city centre locations.

There is a The Town Centre First policy up and running is supposed to require planning authorities to encourage development within town centres before looking at out of town sites!

Recent data suggests planners are not implementing the new strategy, so this is an angle anyone yet to have their say with the council might use in their letter or e-mail.

Does HP count as out of town or out of city centre? Just thinking they might class out of town outside of the city limits?

There's some pretty dam good homework being done, well done guys and gals.

I'm becoming more and more confident that there is no way this will be approved without underhand dealings and there's enough onside to blow any potential dodgy stuff out of the water.

What a great day it will be if brent is sent packing without inflicting the ministand on us and without defacing central park with his vulgar, clumsy, ugly brent village.  We'll still be left with the old Mayflower stand but I'd much rather that than see the club stuck with a laughably small capacity for many decades.  Looking to the brighter (brent free and superfan free) future the new owners must be made to put seats back on the Mayflower enclosure, either temporary or permanent, to give us a c21,000 capacity until the resources are available to replace the mayflower with a stand worthy of the club.

It's quite funny how this new twitter account @Plymouth2013 is coming out with exactly the same things as Newell 

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It's quite funny how this new twitter account @Plymouth2013 is coming out with exactly the same things as Newell 

What is in all of this for ian i wonder? must be something otherwise he wouldnt be so passionate to ruin his parents sea views and destroy the slow worm population that he cares so much about for.