The Soldier's Murder in Woolwich/Racism debate

"Sharia Law" contrary to what is so often presented in the press, by thugs & by those with an intention to distort is actually a fairly straightforward code much like, as I understand it, the sorts of things the Beth Din would deal with. There are certainly, without question, things in that code which should be totally unacceptable but most Muslim countries do not adopt the full Sharia.

Like Judaism there are a range of Muslim groups finding different ways to address their faith. There are also many Muslim groups who are more extreme or even militant than others. I have actually been at the receiving end of Hassidic extremism.

We're all people. Some dangerous bastards and some wonderful people.

This was an act of butchery against a man in London by two other men. A despicable cowardly act which has robbed a family of a son, and the people that carried this out will, I'm sure face the full force of the law.

Those are the basics. What makes this even more emotive than it is are the labels that are attached. The victim is no longer a father/son/husband, he's a British soldier. Would reactions be the same if he was a estate agent or a banker?

The two men responsible are apparently Muslims. What if they were Roman Catholics?

So much killing has been carried out over centuries in the name of religion. It's used as an excuse for man's inhumanity to man.

The reactions to this just feed more violence, and people like the EDL use these acts to further their cause, which in itself is a despicable thing to do and more reason, if any were needed, to ignore them.

Muslims are not all bad people. Some are, and carry out acts of violence that disgust us all.

For Muslims in the above sentence, insert white/black/coloured or any religious creed.

I have seen Chowdary on a number of interviews when asked why he doesn't just go to a country that operates under Sharia Law. he states that he is a British Citizen and that no country operates Sharia Law as it he wants it - as he says it should be here, full Sharia Law. The Woolwich murderer was a student of his. The man is a danger to our society and should be locked up yesterday.

And the Chassids would ban Saturday 3.00 pm football -they must work for Sky!!!

Tringreen wrote:

Australia has it about right imo.

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They would not tolerate this nonsense.

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Except what is being attributed to the Aussie PM is a load of bullshit.

She's made some statements which are hard-line, but not what has been reported as coming from her. She was quoted as saying that Christians founded Australia, conveniently skipping over the fact that Aborigines are the rightful residents of Australia and in no way Christian.

If she did say that then she's an idiot, plain and simple.

Well I agree with their stance ,which I have heard from friends living in Oz is very popular.

This is another angle.

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I'm off to the pub....................

Gert Loinz wrote:

Parts of London are now absolutely no-go areas for white christians. I've been a victim of what has been described as a 'muslim patrol' - it was a terrifying experience.

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Personally, I really do believe there will 'rivers of blood' in the streets before too long. It's almost inevitable.

Hang on. How do they identify Christians? I'm "white", am not a Christian and walk around London all the time. Is there checkpoints where you get asked questions about the bible and if you can quote passages from the new testament you get victimised? I just need to know because I'm not Christian so if there's a badge I can buy to prove this it will get me about town a lot quicker....

Chingers wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

Parts of London are now absolutely no-go areas for white christians. I've been a victim of what has been described as a 'muslim patrol' - it was a terrifying experience.

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Personally, I really do believe there will 'rivers of blood' in the streets before too long. It's almost inevitable.

Hang on. How do they identify Christians? I'm "white", am not a Christian and walk around London all the time. Is there checkpoints where you get asked questions about the bible and if you can quote passages from the new testament you get victimised? I just need to know because I'm not Christian so if there's a badge I can buy to prove this it will get me about town a lot quicker....

Well you'd be classified as an 'Infidel' - even worse - completely fecked at a checkpoint

Gert Loinz wrote:

Parts of London are now absolutely no-go areas for white christians. I've been a victim of what has been described as a 'muslim patrol' - it was a terrifying experience.

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Personally, I really do believe there will 'rivers of blood' in the streets before too long. It's almost inevitable.

Have you actually listened to the first video where there are phrases like "this is a tiny minority" of the community are used, where the activities of these vigilantes are condemned by the local mosque, where it's stated that most of the local Muslim populace don't want such actions?

Rivers of blood? Powell was wrong then and he is wrong now.

Greenjock wrote:

Cobi Budge, what a fuckin tosspot you are.

Read a blog by some racist prick who's recruiting for the BNP and decide to post it on Pasoti.

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If the little scumbag tries posting on here again I hope he's abused so much that he deletes his account.

Cobi and his EDL/BNP loving Devonport mates. feck off you thick little twats!

You're BNP Cobi, your fv mates post EDL related shit on twatter, now feck off and play with the white only traffic or something equally dangerous.

knecht wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

Parts of London are now absolutely no-go areas for white christians. I've been a victim of what has been described as a 'muslim patrol' - it was a terrifying experience.

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Personally, I really do believe there will 'rivers of blood' in the streets before too long. It's almost inevitable.

Have you actually listened to the first video where there are phrases like "this is a tiny minority" of the community are used, where the activities of these vigilantes are condemned by the local mosque, where it's stated that most of the local Muslim populace don't want such actions?

Rivers of blood? Powell was wrong then and he is wrong now.

Powell was wrong. If he had stressed religion rather than race, he might have been seen as prescient.

Indeed there is a massive civil war within Islam itself.

Gert Loinz wrote:

knecht wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

Parts of London are now absolutely no-go areas for white christians. I've been a victim of what has been described as a 'muslim patrol' - it was a terrifying experience.

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Personally, I really do believe there will 'rivers of blood' in the streets before too long. It's almost inevitable.

Have you actually listened to the first video where there are phrases like "this is a tiny minority" of the community are used, where the activities of these vigilantes are condemned by the local mosque, where it's stated that most of the local Muslim populace don't want such actions?

Rivers of blood? Powell was wrong then and he is wrong now.

Powell was wrong. If he had stressed religion rather than race, he might have been seen as prescient.

Time will tell.

How would you propose minimising the chance that Powell might prove to be right?

And did you listen to the first video?

knecht wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

knecht wrote:

Gert Loinz wrote:

Parts of London are now absolutely no-go areas for white christians. I've been a victim of what has been described as a 'muslim patrol' - it was a terrifying experience.

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Personally, I really do believe there will 'rivers of blood' in the streets before too long. It's almost inevitable.

Have you actually listened to the first video where there are phrases like "this is a tiny minority" of the community are used, where the activities of these vigilantes are condemned by the local mosque, where it's stated that most of the local Muslim populace don't want such actions?

Rivers of blood? Powell was wrong then and he is wrong now.

Powell was wrong. If he had stressed religion rather than race, he might have been seen as prescient.

Time will tell.

How would you propose minimising the chance that Powell might prove to be right?

And did you listen to the first video?

Of course I listened to it, I posted it.

To minimise the risk that Powell might prove to be right? Vigorously support the non-fundamentalist factions in their civil war against the radical elements of Islam - who as we can see on a daily basis WILL STOP AT NOTHING. But this, by definition, means escalation doesn't it? It is surely bound to get worse before it gets better.

Greenjock wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Cobi Budge, what a fuckin tosspot you are.

Read a blog by some racist prick who's recruiting for the BNP and decide to post it on Pasoti.

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If the little scumbag tries posting on here again I hope he's abused so much that he deletes his account.

Cobi and his EDL/BNP loving Devonport mates. feck off you thick little twats!

You're BNP Cobi, your fv mates post EDL related shit on twatter, now feck off and play with the white only traffic or something equally dangerous.

I despise the EDL and I'm a member of the Conservative party, I've put nothing on twitter and I'm not racist.

Case closed.

Pitbull wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Cobi Budge, what a fuckin tosspot you are.

Read a blog by some racist prick who's recruiting for the BNP and decide to post it on Pasoti.

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If the little scumbag tries posting on here again I hope he's abused so much that he deletes his account.

Cobi and his EDL/BNP loving Devonport mates. feck off you thick little twats!

You're BNP Cobi, your fv mates post EDL related shit on twatter, now feck off and play with the white only traffic or something equally dangerous.

I despise the EDL and I'm a member of the Conservative party, I've put nothing on twitter and I'm not racist.

Case closed.

Oh so you've given up on the BNP since last week have you?

You're worse than a bonehead EDL thug because you're a little shit who can't back up what he says and supposedly intelligent, when actually your'e just a feckin scrotum.

Cobi, I'm curious, where did you get your figures from for your comments on pasoti?

GOB wrote:

Cobi, I'm curious, where did you get your figures from for your comments on pasoti?

BBC radio 1 from last week, a debate on Muslim grooming, I believe they are online somewhere, will try and find them by tonight.

Greenjock wrote:

Pitbull wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Cobi Budge, what a fuckin tosspot you are.

Read a blog by some racist prick who's recruiting for the BNP and decide to post it on Pasoti.

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If the little scumbag tries posting on here again I hope he's abused so much that he deletes his account.

Cobi and his EDL/BNP loving Devonport mates. feck off you thick little twats!

You're BNP Cobi, your fv mates post EDL related shit on twatter, now feck off and play with the white only traffic or something equally dangerous.

I despise the EDL and I'm a member of the Conservative party, I've put nothing on twitter and I'm not racist.

Case closed.

Oh so you've given up on the BNP since last week have you?

You're worse than a bonehead EDL thug because you're a little shit who can't back up what he says and supposedly intelligent, when actually your'e just a feckin scrotum.

I've never been a member of the BNP, even if I wanted to be that is impossible as they have never stood a candidate in Plymouth and do not have a Devon branch as far as I'm aware.

Thug? I'm studying A levels, getting straight A's and intending to go to Brighton Uni to study Politics and IR.

You are the one who can't back anything up here.

Pitbull wrote:

GOB wrote:

Cobi, I'm curious, where did you get your figures from for your comments on pasoti?

BBC radio 1 from last week, a debate on Muslim grooming, I believe they are online somewhere, will try and find them by tonight.

Thanks Cobi, can you remember who it was on the BBC that quoted those figures?

GOB wrote:

Pitbull wrote:

GOB wrote:

Cobi, I'm curious, where did you get your figures from for your comments on pasoti?

BBC radio 1 from last week, a debate on Muslim grooming, I believe they are online somewhere, will try and find them by tonight.

Thanks Cobi, can you remember who it was on the BBC that quoted those figures?

I can't remember no, I will find those stats later. For now I can post this:

Child protection agency Ceop report states:

Identified 2,083 victims and 2,379 offenders since the start of 2008.

This particular report showed that, half of the perpetrators have not been identified due to insufficient evidence. The other half show that 38 percent were unknown, 30 percent were white, 28 percent were Asians mostly from a Pakistani Muslim background, 3 percent were black and 0.16 percent were Chinese.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

How would execution deter people like these people?

It's not about deterrence, it's about vengeance, these nutbags wont stop until either we are all dead or they are, I wouldn't give them the option to become recidivists or waste the millions to keep them banged up.

RIP Lee Rigby,killed by fanatical loons.
Islam as barbaric today as it was when formed in the 7 century.
Saudi A, all ready this year executed 12 women by beheading,another 22 waiting the sword.

downthetrack wrote:

RIP Lee Rigby,killed by fanatical loons.
Islam as barbaric today as it was when formed in the 7 century.
Saudi A, all ready this year executed 12 women by beheading,another 22 waiting the sword.

good post tracky unfortunatley the liberal loons on this thread are to busy condeming the bnp edl and the like rather than condeming murdering religeous fanatics that hacked to death a young british soldier, the bnp edl are racist pricks however, i have never heard of them hacking anyone to death yet.

knecht wrote:

Ooooh, Tis. I love it when you talk dirty.

Maybe we can agree that THIS was extreme heroism.

As with most acts of "heroism" she just did what she thought was right in the circumstances, on this occasion she was right, the nutbag was just a lonely, misunderstood little boy who needed his mommy, I wonder how her people would have felt had he continued with his slice and dice approach to the day?

Anyone interested in Islam should follow @pulpark on twitter.For an unbiased view.
See for yourself what Islam is like around the world,you'd be very shocked

Haven't got time to respond to your racist crap other than to state that's what it is.