Has this been mentioned ?

Brighton have the highest average attendance this season 28k i think, now then, i wonder when they planning the ground im sure the didnt take into account the average gates at the Goldstone Ground (let alone the withdean)- if they had then a 17k ground would have been built.

Having built a big ground they can at least have a 'chance' to get to the top flight.

Go and mention that on the FB site,pin your lugs back and wait for the abuse to be hurled back in your direction,most of these people really are beyond help.
If this is their feelings towards HHP then we really must have the thickest fan-base in the football league.
Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

Try doing it on pasoti, if your not banned that is...same end result

ive done it

Of course there were only 20,000 this night in League 1, yeah right, so at least 2,500 would've been locked out, or more like 10,000 in reality.

where were brizzles supporters that nite? i luv tommys 2nd goal

success on the pitch + ambition shown by the club off it = more fans turn up to games


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The notion that we have never had the gates and therefore increased capacity is a waste of money is bonkers.

Argyle has never, in recent years, been marketed properly to the region's football fans. And even if it had it wouldn't have been able to fully capitalise on any success. I couldn't get tickets to the League 1 QPR promotion game because there wasn't enough capacity. I would have taken at least two friends, both of which had or now have kids, who would no doubt have been attracted back by the atmosphere. Its no good simply preaching to the converted. If only those who would have gone anyway can get tickets to the big games then where do the new customers come from other than the familiies of existing fans. We all end up a little inbred as a fanbase.

gil. wrote:

The notion that we have never had the gates and therefore increased capacity is a waste of money is bonkers.

Argyle has never, in recent years, been marketed properly to the region's football fans. And even if it had it wouldn't have been able to fully capitalise on any success. I couldn't get tickets to the League 1 QPR promotion game because there wasn't enough capacity. I would have taken at least two friends, both of which had or now have kids, who would no doubt have been attracted back by the atmosphere. Its no good simply preaching to the converted. If only those who would have gone anyway can get tickets to the big games then where do the new customers come from other than the familiies of existing fans. We all end up a little inbred as a fanbase.

Agree totally, particularly your last sentence ............... but that is exactly what the Pasoti, self promoting control group want. The puppet master knows that if he makes them feel important and gives them a sniff of actually running the club, they will accept whatever he says and does.

Build it big with room to expand and the club will outgrow them. Keep it small, boxed in and they can run Avivafests and rattle buckets for evermore.

Plimuff Argiggle. The most village city club in England.

I saw on Facebook where Newell popped up a couple of tines to call us freaks who don't attend games that the attitude was very much "If youm a praaaper faaaan youm would buy a season ticket"

So Argyle aren't bothered about the floating fans or the people who can't afford to pay for a season ticket in one. No new fans needed thank you very much.

Actually the Plymouth Argyle Facebook page is quite an eye-opener! The access road is just a path, half of all the development money is going to the club, Brent has ploughed millions and millions into the club already, Home Park can easily be extended upwards and my personal favourite, Home Park can be extended to give an overall capacity of 30,000.

That's what we're dealing with. Fans who couldn't give a feck so they believe everything they're told.

Another gem was where the school is going will look much better now than if they were some boring seating area and the view from there would be crap anyway so why bother!

You couldn't make it up.

Also more of the usual if you dont like it feck off and support Man Utd, or Truro
I stand by what i said about the thickest fan-base in the football league.

That's the problem when you have someone that has such a small mind, is so small minded and has decades of blaming others for the Clubs failure even though attendances are well above other comparable clubs/cities and also has a self interest, helping to decide what capacity the stadium should have.

Thick, greedy, sycophant that lacks vision and intelligence.

£25 per person. That's the issue. We generally play on a Saturday afternoon. What else can you do for £25? There's loads to do on a Saturday afternoon with £25 in your pocket.

The Brighton thing is a bad comparison - it's an affluent part of the UK, they're at the top of the Championship with good players, a very good manager and they play proper, attractive football. We're at the arse end of League 2 and we all clap when Guy Branston heads the ball a long way. The best thing in the past 12 months was the Evening Herald pasty vote.

hairy j wrote:

£25 per person. That's the issue. We generally play on a Saturday afternoon. What else can you do for £25? There's loads to do on a Saturday afternoon with £25 in your pocket.

The Brighton thing is a bad comparison - it's an affluent part of the UK, they're at the top of the Championship with good players, a very good manager and they play proper, attractive football. We're at the arse end of League 2 and we all clap when Guy Branston heads the ball a long way. The best thing in the past 12 months was the Evening Herald pasty vote.

That's a very valid point, we had a full day at Morwellham Quay yesterday, cost per adult, £7.95, superb value.

Greenjock wrote:

I saw on Facebook where Newell popped up a couple of tines to call us freaks who don't attend games that the attitude was very much "If youm a praaaper faaaan youm would buy a season ticket"

So Argyle aren't bothered about the floating fans or the people who can't afford to pay for a season ticket in one. No new fans needed thank you very much.

Actually the Plymouth Argyle Facebook page is quite an eye-opener! The access road is just a path, half of all the development money is going to the club, Brent has ploughed millions and millions into the club already, Home Park can easily be extended upwards and my personal favourite, Home Park can be extended to give an overall capacity of 30,000.

That's what we're dealing with. Fans who couldn't give a feck so they believe everything they're told.

Another gem was where the school is going will look much better now than if they were some boring seating area and the view from there would be crap anyway so why bother!

You couldn't make it up.

The Argo f/b group is basically forza nerd kids, a few older dimwits and the likes of nool pulling the strings.

I've always argued that the prices are too high - certainly for many of my mates who aren't diehard supporters. Too high for myself as well. As a result I haven't been as much as I would have liked in recent years. I suppose if your interests in life are simply Argyle then there is not as much competition for your dosh. But as I said earlier - that won't grow the fanbase.

Also, the constant argument that prices have been reduced for select games and the crowds didn't come isn't very well thought out. I'm convinced that if prices in some sections of the ground were reduced consistently and it was well marketed and over time the word got around there would be a greater uptake. No one knows about the one offs other than the regulars. Momentum has to be built.

£25 a ticket, a couple of pints before the game, £6, a pasty £2.50, a couple of pints afterwards, £6. Almost £40. You can go to Tanners and have a three course meal and a glass of wine for that or buy a new release blu-ray and a couple of big pizzas. You can go to Paignton Zoo with the kids for not much more. You can go and watch a band and have a night out. It's a lot of cash and it's also a wasted afternoon is you sit through 90 minutes of terminal shite.

Young men don't often go in groups any more - we used to. I used to go with four others and more often than not, we were a group of eight - none of them go any longer.

£25 a ticket is way too much for a league two team

hairy j wrote:

£25 a ticket, a couple of pints before the game, £6, a pasty £2.50, a couple of pints afterwards, £6. Almost £40. You can go to Tanners and have a three course meal and a glass of wine for that or buy a new release blu-ray and a couple of big pizzas. You can go to Paignton Zoo with the kids for not much more. You can go and watch a band and have a night out. It's a lot of cash and it's also a wasted afternoon is you sit through 90 minutes of terminal shite.

Young men don't often go in groups any more - we used to. I used to go with four others and more often than not, we were a group of eight - none of them go any longer.

This is pretty spot on. I used to go on the train with around 20 mates for years and slowly it started to dwindle. We hired coaches ourselves for away games, which became a minibus and then a hire car.

In this climate if you want to compete with all of those other things then you have to offer something attractive. Argyle fans have now had 5 years of utter dross and all of a sudden there is the opportunity to turn things around and give the club something to be proud of for years to come and the fans have been shafted again by a rich man being greedy.

punchdrunk wrote:

Also more of the usual if you dont like it feck off and support Man Utd, or Truro
I stand by what i said about the thickest fan-base in the football league.

i thought i was, am a fik fuker, but argyle are overloaded with brain dead sheep fans, the likes of nool and webb would be laughed out by the supporters of any other club.

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:

Also more of the usual if you dont like it feck off and support Man Utd, or Truro
I stand by what i said about the thickest fan-base in the football league.

i thought i was, am a fik fuker, but argyle are overloaded with brain dead sheep fans, the likes of nool and webb would be laughed out by the supporters of any other club.

Thats what i mean...imagine suggesting to the Brighton fans a year before the left the Withdean that the 30k state of the art Amex was going to be replaced by a cruddy 17k stadium with no hope of expansion!! would they have just shrugged their shoulders and gone oh well "shaddap and be grateful" No theyd have dug their heels in big time.
So nauseatingly compliant

What about those of us who work weekends (like me)? I guess I'm not praaaaaapar then

Greenjock wrote:

So Argyle aren't bothered about the floating fans or the people who can't afford to pay for a season ticket in one. No new fans needed thank you very much.

Oh .. they want the floating fans alright, Jocko, but they just want us to buy a season ticket, and then it's only sixpence for each game apparently. I gave up arguing the toss over on the Baggo2 years ago on the merits of PAYG, POTD or whatever... a pointless exercise given the brain dead nature of so many respondents. And by the way, to Pepsi, I wasn't banned from there, I withdrew because of their worsening alarming culture as the cabal tightened their grip,or should I say his grip, and had to almost plead to have my account deleted as posters there are obviously not to be trusted with such an independent choice of their own.

I must have been the most loyal of POTD fans there was, along with a few friends, and it's never really mattered what league we were in as long as the entertainment was there. I DON'T LIKE having to join a club to buy something, and there are millions like me. Apart from the Co-op for political mutual reasons, I don't do all this loyalty card/ direct debit stuff. I'm a big walker ( yes, that's walker ) and there's an outdoor chain supermarket type place opened up near Faraday Mill. I went there once, never again. They wanted me to pay the most ludicrous price for something, but if I joined their CLUB and gave them all my details and gawd knows what, I could have that item and all items at half price .... I had a row with the manager and safe to say I won't be buying anything from them. This sort of the thing is the default business plan that is in vogue at the moment, everyone from the energy companies to your local sports centre wants a direct debit ( Jeez even the Life Centre is putting the screws on now they have a new build ) and we all know why. It's a bank version of BOGOF where you are encouraged to fill your boots more than you wish to. No wonder most of the main protagonists up at HP HQ look as they do. Have they never listened to the government health warnings of over indulging ? This culture can go whistle as far as I am concerned. The fad WILL pass as things get tighter and people go back to the older ways in an attempt to regain control over their spending and personal information. There WILL be a backlash.
In the meantime, thankfully google earth is free and I can find my way to Manchester.

hairy j wrote:

£25 a ticket, a couple of pints before the game, £6, a pasty £2.50, a couple of pints afterwards, £6. Almost £40. You can go to Tanners and have a three course meal and a glass of wine for that or buy a new release blu-ray and a couple of big pizzas. You can go to Paignton Zoo with the kids for not much more. You can go and watch a band and have a night out. It's a lot of cash and it's also a wasted afternoon is you sit through 90 minutes of terminal shite.

Young men don't often go in groups any more - we used to. I used to go with four others and more often than not, we were a group of eight - none of them go any longer.

but the lack of groups is down to the terraces being replaced by seats, seats restrict things more organisation is required to sit together,
as 'worried' says you need to give name and address for a ticket.

recently I went to cinema 3d film and It was orange 2 for 1 day took girlfriend and my daughter £22
22 quid I said - then I was asked how much a ticket at Rochdale had cost me.........

football is too expensive.

football is a very expensive past time.