Today's Chip Paper

Dougie wrote:

One thing I never understand is that if you ask questions then you don't support the club. I'm a season ticket holder of many years and attend a goodly number of away games nothing that happens on here or the questions that are asked affects that. On Saturday I was louder than Loud (give me my own murial) and definitely louder than The President. The only place this stuff seems to come up on a game day is at the fan fest or on the GT coach. Go figure.

I could be sitting/standing next to Greenman, Iddesleigh Green, Ponty, Lee/Leigh and I wouldn't have a clue who they were. I can assure I'd out sing the lot of them (without the need for any Forza twattery).

You don't know who I am? Or what I look like? I'm off for a flounce!

I don't sing at games if I'm honest, I enjoy atmosphere.

Mrrapson wrote:

Mods. - I don't feel jock has given me any undue abuse. I was merely making a point.

Jock - I don't know for a fact that Chris and Ian lied. I've never been told Sean was greenman, I wasn't privy to the conversation. In all honesty I've never asked who green was, the only name that ever sprang to my mind was Paul Thomas, it's the low sort of thing he'd do, but then again he can be quite a witty chap.
Without those pm's nothing can be proved, all the banging in and shouting does nothing and means nothing. I believe you were threatened, it's sick that you were threatened, I believe lee's reason for sending the letter, lets face it you can be a hard one to deal with at times, and it was felt that this was a good way to deal with it. I don't know how the pi was.

I do I know that threats aren't Chris style, at all in any way shape or form. Chris is the sort of person that people gravitate to because he is charismatic, the same way in which graham is and Jim Benton Evans before him.

For every bit of pain you feel Chris feels it to because he's getting the same abuse you claimed to have had. This petty Internet hatred needs to stop before it spills into the "real" world.

I know people think you're a little unhinged at times jock but I actually quite like you, you're funny and articulate when you want to be, it's just a shame that you play up to certain characters on here.

I am a little unhinged, and proud of it.

I know what you're saying Leigh, the public face of Chris Webb is so great that his shit doesn't stink, but I know that he lies constantly as do the ATD mods. He claimed recently that the club had gagged Newell from posting on forums for instance, or are you calling Frank a liar?

I'll leave it there. I no longer give a feck about the club I have supported for just about 30 years, because I know what Webb, Newell, Jameson, Jones and almost certainly Hooper have said and done, and these people represent the club.

Nothing is too low for them. Using the death of his father frequently is bad, as is the use of his son Connor when it suits him and his friends, yes Newell Connor, I said it so send me a white feather you fat bastard, or get your scumbag son to "Quote some lines from movies" that's if he's not lying in some gutter again, covered in his own piss and puke after spunking all his money away again in Casino's and bookies, bad enough to have to be bought out of the RAF by his wanker father

Pasoti, the breeding ground for these scum, where the mods post as dead people, where the anonymous accounts are forged, where the Argyle director is able to abuse fans while the club are sat at the bottom of Division 4 and on the cusp of non-league status yet can afford to tell fans to piss off, where slimy bastards like Lee Jameson can be given passwords by mods to attack people like John Lloyd, and where private investigators can be hired to get disabled pensioners home address and then this can be shared out on the GT's coach. Where the club president is allowed to post under feck knows how many different names and let others take the rap for him for weeks on end because he's mates with the mods, yet anyone who merely offers a differing opinion or comes close to uncovering the lies and deceit of others gets banned?

I don't know how you can speak to these wankers Leigh, seriously I don't. I don't know how you can sit drinking with these scumbags, but you're welcome to it.

I ask you one last thing Leigh. If everything I have posted is bullshit or lies, why haven't Webb or Newell sued me? Why haven't Hooper and Jameson gone to the Police? I think you know the reason why.

Jock, I didn't say you were unhinged, I said that's how you can be peercieved.

I don't drink with them. I haven't seen Chris in yonks and rarely speak to any of them except Wozzer.

Fwiw, I text Chris on Sunday night asking him to post a response to the allegations about multis. He did and look what's happened! I wish I hadn't bothered now.

If it's lies that Webb has had multi accounts on here then why is it that the day the IP address of "the spooner" was banned did Chris Webb contact the mods asking why his home IP address had been banned?

Nobody else had an IP ban issued in the time around it so that means the spooner was posting from the same IP as Chris Webb's home IP.

Yea Man wrote:

If it's lies that Webb has had multi accounts on here then why is it that the day the IP address of "the spooner" was banned did Chris Webb contact the mods asking why his home IP address had been banned?

Nobody else had an IP ban issued in the time around it so that means the spooner was posting from the same IP as Chris Webb's home IP.

Careful Yea Man, logic like that could get you into trouble

Chris will be swearing on his son's life next

Mrrapson wrote:

Dougie wrote:

One thing I never understand is that if you ask questions then you don't support the club. I'm a season ticket holder of many years and attend a goodly number of away games nothing that happens on here or the questions that are asked affects that. On Saturday I was louder than Loud (give me my own murial) and definitely louder than The President. The only place this stuff seems to come up on a game day is at the fan fest or on the GT coach. Go figure.

I could be sitting/standing next to Greenman, Iddesleigh Green, Ponty, Lee/Leigh and I wouldn't have a clue who they were. I can assure I'd out sing the lot of them (without the need for any Forza twattery).

You don't know who I am? Or what I look like? I'm off for a flounce!

I don't sing at games if I'm honest, I enjoy atmosphere.

But I know what you look like.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Engraver-bucking-trend-West-End/story-16235880-detail/story.html#axzz2Kc6hMR6M

lawnmowerman wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Dougie wrote:

One thing I never understand is that if you ask questions then you don't support the club. I'm a season ticket holder of many years and attend a goodly number of away games nothing that happens on here or the questions that are asked affects that. On Saturday I was louder than Loud (give me my own murial) and definitely louder than The President. The only place this stuff seems to come up on a game day is at the fan fest or on the GT coach. Go figure.

I could be sitting/standing next to Greenman, Iddesleigh Green, Ponty, Lee/Leigh and I wouldn't have a clue who they were. I can assure I'd out sing the lot of them (without the need for any Forza twattery).

You don't know who I am? Or what I look like? I'm off for a flounce!

I don't sing at games if I'm honest, I enjoy atmosphere.

But I know what you look like.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Engraver-bucking-trend-West-End/story-16235880-detail/story.html#axzz2Kc6hMR6M

Bleddy Ell, Leighs minted

Greenjock wrote:

lawnmowerman wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Dougie wrote:

One thing I never understand is that if you ask questions then you don't support the club. I'm a season ticket holder of many years and attend a goodly number of away games nothing that happens on here or the questions that are asked affects that. On Saturday I was louder than Loud (give me my own murial) and definitely louder than The President. The only place this stuff seems to come up on a game day is at the fan fest or on the GT coach. Go figure.

I could be sitting/standing next to Greenman, Iddesleigh Green, Ponty, Lee/Leigh and I wouldn't have a clue who they were. I can assure I'd out sing the lot of them (without the need for any Forza twattery).

You don't know who I am? Or what I look like? I'm off for a flounce!

I don't sing at games if I'm honest, I enjoy atmosphere.

But I know what you look like.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Engraver-bucking-trend-West-End/story-16235880-detail/story.html#axzz2Kc6hMR6M

Bleddy Ell, Leighs minted

Haha, I wish mate. It ain't that profitable! It's growing though and should do us alright over the next five years.

Mrrapson wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

lawnmowerman wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Dougie wrote:

One thing I never understand is that if you ask questions then you don't support the club. I'm a season ticket holder of many years and attend a goodly number of away games nothing that happens on here or the questions that are asked affects that. On Saturday I was louder than Loud (give me my own murial) and definitely louder than The President. The only place this stuff seems to come up on a game day is at the fan fest or on the GT coach. Go figure.

I could be sitting/standing next to Greenman, Iddesleigh Green, Ponty, Lee/Leigh and I wouldn't have a clue who they were. I can assure I'd out sing the lot of them (without the need for any Forza twattery).

You don't know who I am? Or what I look like? I'm off for a flounce!

I don't sing at games if I'm honest, I enjoy atmosphere.

But I know what you look like.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Engraver-bucking-trend-West-End/story-16235880-detail/story.html#axzz2Kc6hMR6M

Bleddy Ell, Leighs minted

Haha, I wish mate. It ain't that profitable! It's growing though and should do us alright over the next five years.

We could hold our own auctions and you could be our version of nikkk

Rapson looks like the character Steve off Corrie

So Chris Webb has once again categorically denied being Greenman on ATD - if he isn't lying which coward could it possibly be?

Mike Searle wrote:

So Chris Webb has once again categorically denied being Greenman on ATD - if he isn't lying which coward could it possibly be?

And he never lies

Chemical Ali wrote:

It's all ATD's fault (another Windsor boy post)-


As I said in my post yesterday I was damned if I did and damned if I didn’t. I knew full well that coming out and answering the questions would not satisfy some. Because to be quite frank the only thing that would appease the obsessed few is Ian Newells head on a platter, me kicked out and James Brent replaced with a Russian Billionaire. None of those things will be happening so it’s a safe bet that the vile, foul language abuse on other internet forums will continue.

I did say that I wouldn’t comment further but I rethought that for two reasons. One I actually enjoy pasoti, the banter and have met some great people via this website but secondly in a desperate attempt to continue the abuse I am now being linked elsewhere with accounts that have abused other posters. I can categorically state that at no time have I used an alternative account other than my own on any other site. On top of this to accuse me of threatening people just proves that these characters no nothing about me nor have ever met me. It isn’t my style. I am all for confrontation within the boundaries of fairness (out in the open) but threatening isn’t my style. It also strikes me as more than a little ironic that this accusation comes from a website that allows such abuse to take place every single day of the week.

I have, like many posters questioned the mods on pasoti. They can’t get anything right and it’s a hard job. It is, though, laughable for them to be judged by mods that allow foul language, print private emails, reproduce mod data in the public arena, link to inappropriate websites and allow their friends into the mod rooms. I think the saying starts.. people in glass houses.

As I have said, it is hard for me at the moment because a very, very emotive issue hangs over my association with the internet (not pasoti) and quite frankly I think the majority of Argyle fans would be appalled if they knew what emotional damage has been caused to my family. I don’t want to inflame things though. I am not obsessed with others so I keep it in and will continue to do so.

I just cannot get my head around some of the behaviour.

I attacked the trust? Absolute rubbish. I made 2 or 3 posts backing up wozzers character as he has confirmed. I have and always will support the trust model. My issues with the trust have been raised in person or at AGMs etc – the right way.

The constant foul language, the drive to ‘bring him down’. I just can’t, in my head work out how you could get so obsessed and so angry about somebody that you have never met or don’t even know. People who do not attend games and some that don’t live in the UK posting at 0600 or 2300 proving that Ian Newell, myself or other people are their first and last thought. It is not natural. It is not the behaviour of a balanced human being. It is horrible, it is aggressive and it is unwarranted.

I won’t be posting on these petty infighting issues again that’s for sure but I will be concentrating on the 99.99999% of Argyle fans that want this Club to succeed and those focus is where it should be – on the pitch.

What I will do those is pop into the local drinking establishment, with my Son, where some of the more vigorous and aggressive posters frequent on Saturday pre-match. That way they can ask me any questions that they wish and then I can ask them why they (some not all) feel it is OK to verbally abuse and plot against somebody they don’t even know. I think that’s a fair approach and one which any normal adult would adopt in a situation where an issue has arisen. That will hopefully give those present some closure and allow them to judge me as a person in person.

Can’t we get back to talking about how good/bad our football team is? When the new grandstand plans will be displayed? How many we are going to hammer Exeter by? The things that unite us should be stronger than anything that separates us – for any true Argyle fan.

I fancy a 3-2 win on Saturday!.....

Chris

Errrrrrm.......... I think agreeing to a lie detector test might be a better method of confirming the truth .

Otherwise, it will be 'Hi fellas, fancy a beer ? Say hello to the nice gentlemen son. Now what do you want to ask me ?

Several questions follow to which the answer is, 'Of course not, it wasn't me.

Everyone happy and real mates now?'

Lie detector fest now. Prove your innocence, otherwise the evidence is compelling. Maybe you'd like to follow up your threats to sue , if you're so sure of yourself ?

Lie detector tests? Christ some of you lot have been watching far too much Jeremy Kyle!

Mrrapson wrote:

Lie detector tests? Christ some of you lot have been watching far too much Jeremy Kyle!

Maybe Jeremy would like to do a 'special' ? The security guys would certainly be busy when the results are presented.

You're up early on ATD Leigh. It's 9 am here and I've done the dishes, made breakfast, driven the girls to work, exercised the dog and settled down to catch up on last night's fun and games.
One question, do you really believe that Jock would 'play up' to the more 'extreme' posters on here ?

Mrrapson wrote:

Lie detector tests? Christ some of you lot have been watching far too much Jeremy Kyle!

I know! It's like James Bond with private investigators, fake websites, proxy Ip addresses, planting computer viruses, threats of violence, pseudonyms, clandestine meetings in hotels, photographs and addresses of the enemy saved, medical historys, back stabbing and infiltration.

These ATD people are nutcases with such vivid imaginations!

Looks like Grumpy's intelligence and persistence is proving too much for the Pasoti mods.

Wait for the 'one trick pony' tag following his banning.

For 'new Pasoti' read 'Same old thought control'............. move along. Only now, Grumpy has another, growing platform from which to ask questions they don't want to answer, even though the burning topic has been moved to terraces, had its title changed in an attempt to devalue the subject content and is proving too difficult to bury.

The Grumpy Loyal
Post subject: Re: Yesterday's chip paperPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:37 pm


Joined: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:07 pm
In the interests of transparency, can I ask the Moderator who has issued me with a unilateral warning about my future conduct for "concentrating my posts on one particular subject", if I'm allowed to comment further on this thread?

I had a question removed yesterday which was removed, but since been reinstated, and even repeated by another Moderator. That question has been answered by Chris Webb.

Telling me that I can "feel free to talk about football", but not the current subject on this particular thread could easily be construed as censorship, couldn't it?

I'm asking this question in good faith.

Greenjock wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Lie detector tests? Christ some of you lot have been watching far too much Jeremy Kyle!

I know! It's like James Bond with private investigators, fake websites, proxy Ip addresses, planting computer viruses, threats of violence, pseudonyms, clandestine meetings in hotels, photographs and addresses of the enemy saved, medical historys, back stabbing and infiltration.

These ATD people are nutcases with such vivid imaginations!

Well on when phrased like that....

Mrrapson wrote:

Well ok when phrased like that....

Well.... How else could you possibly phrase it?

Tringreen wrote:

Looks like Grumpy's intelligence and persistence is proving too much for the Pasoti mods.

Wait for the 'one trick pony' tag following his banning.

For 'new Pasoti' read 'Same old thought control'............. move along. Only now, Grumpy has another, growing platform from which to ask questions they don't want to answer, even though the burning topic has been moved to terraces, had its title changed in an attempt to devalue the subject content and is proving too difficult to bury.

The Grumpy Loyal
Post subject: Re: Yesterday's chip paperPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:37 pm


Joined: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:07 pm
In the interests of transparency, can I ask the Moderator who has issued me with a unilateral warning about my future conduct for "concentrating my posts on one particular subject", if I'm allowed to comment further on this thread?

I had a question removed yesterday which was removed, but since been reinstated, and even repeated by another Moderator. That question has been answered by Chris Webb.

Telling me that I can "feel free to talk about football", but not the current subject on this particular thread could easily be construed as censorship, couldn't it?

I'm asking this question in good faith.

Classic! I love Pasoti

Greenjock wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

So Chris Webb has once again categorically denied being Greenman on ATD - if he isn't lying which coward could it possibly be?

And he never lies

"I can categorically state that at no time have I used an alternative account other than my own on any other site."

If Greenman was his own account then he hasnt lied.

Chancellor wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

So Chris Webb has once again categorically denied being Greenman on ATD - if he isn't lying which coward could it possibly be?

And he never lies

"I can categorically state that at no time have I used an alternative account other than my own on any other site."

If Greenman was his own account then he hasnt lied.

Good point.

I see Nool has urged the ATD mods to pass Greenman's IP address to the pasoti mods. Sorry but we did that once before when we tried to help identity greenandy1981 (the bloke who put false bids of about £5k against Nikkk- who turned out to be nool's mate mike trigger) and the pasoti mods fecked us over.

We agreed then that we couldn't trust the pasoti mods with such info ever again.

Thus it's now the turn of the pasoti mods to give us (ATD) IP details of Chris Webb/ windsor boy/ dogger so we can compare.

Chemical Ali wrote:

I see Nool has urged the ATD mods to pass Greenman's IP address to the pasoti mods. Sorry but we did that once before when we tried to help identity greenandy1981 (the bloke who put false bids of about £5k against Nikkk- who turned out to be nool's mate mike trigger) and the pasoti mods fecked us over.

We agreed then that we couldn't trust the pasoti mods with such info ever again.

Thus it's now the turn of the pasoti mods to give us (ATD) IP details of Chris Webb/ windsor boy/ dogger so we can compare.

I for one will not be holding my breath.

Liedetectorfest now ! What a show it would be

He is actually in total denial

IJN
Post subject: Re: Yesterday's chip paperPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:02 am


Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:15 pm
Get over yourself Grumpy.

I received a similar waning, and all they are trying to do is to calm down the ATD v Pasoti thing.

Perhaps if the ATD 'Mods' and apparently there is at least two them, could pass the IP address of Greenman to a Pasoti mod, this could all be sorted.

Will it happen? Of course it won't, as that be too easy and of course the lies and the campaign against Chris Webb would have to cease wouldn't it?

Stop playing the mature role mate, it's a bit sad if I'm honest!

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The Grumpy Loyal
Post subject: Re: Yesterday's chip paperPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:15 am


Joined: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:07 pm
If I wanted to play the mature role, as you put it, I'd have reported your abusive "rhymes with hunt" PM you sent me to the Moderators. That would actually have been worthy of giving you a ban.

What I am interested in, is getting to the bottom of some of the underhand goings on concerning one or two people who really ought to know better. Am I being purposely antagonistic or disruptive? No. Am I asking the odd question that will be awkward for one or two people? Absolutely yes.