Director of Football Wanted

If brent is so keen on Fletcher why not do what the M7 did with Mariner and move him down to assistant and bring in a real manager.

Only not peter reid as he was shocking also even with all the probs

Looks like we've got another owner that thinks he's gonna do business in a "more professional" manner ( AKA football naive twerp ). It also comes across as a very political decision ... that's twice now Fletcher has failed miserably on his own.

Maybe Fletcher is part of a little war bunch that have all been promised a lot more than their fair shot at things, and is almost part of the non fiscal debt we're still paying off. almost some sort of karma. And maybe Fletcher, has some understanding in bagging himself a three year option on this so called rolling contract.

To be honest, Romain, as well, has got off lightly in all this. Just what is his role ? .. I thought it was billed as some sort of double act ... we surely haven't got a dedicated goalkeeping coach in L2 ... surely not.
Every question I ask myself, I can only answer with "jobs for the boys, mates is mates"

penz - think you got a point there.

is brent grateful to fletcher in the same way some are 'just grateful' to have a club?

after all the strike engineered by (?) helped to get rid of reid and thus secure the club on more favourable terms than with reid at the helm.......

what other 'manager' in brents firm would get a mentor twice having failed miserably............

Or loyalty, trust and support of an employee? That, at least, has to be acknowledged. In the 'old way' of doing things Fletcher would have to go. If they genuinely believe that he will come good, good luck to them. As I've said for some time, he may become a good manager in the future but in our present position we can't afford to be a learning ground.

I am bothered that as evidence of the claim that he will come good is his "passion & commitment" as described by the new man, Sexstone. It is oh so easy to convey passion & commitment. It is much harder to translate that into achievement. If passion & commitment were the qualification then Noddy would have made the best Argyle manager we've ever had.

Penzance wrote:

Looks like we've got another owner that thinks he's gonna do business in a "more professional" manner ( AKA football naive twerp ). It also comes across as a very political decision ... that's twice now Fletcher has failed miserably on his own.

Maybe Fletcher is part of a little war bunch that have all been promised a lot more than their fair shot at things, and is almost part of the non fiscal debt we're still paying off. almost some sort of karma. And maybe Fletcher, has some understanding in bagging himself a three year option on this so called rolling contract.

To be honest, Romain, as well, has got off lightly in all this. Just what is his role ? .. I thought it was billed as some sort of double act ... we surely haven't got a dedicated goalkeeping coach in L2 ... surely not.
Every question I ask myself, I can only answer with "jobs for the boys, mates is mates"

I read on the O/S an interview with ooooooooooooooooooooooo rene gilmartin that the youth team gk coach Rhys Wilmot works with all the keepers at the club including the first team lot so i take ffrom that Romain doesnt have much input with the coaching of the keepers which i find shocking given his trade.

James Brent is nothing but obstinate. He was despite the clamour over the Gasboard election and set up. And he's at it again. He doesn't suffer fools gladly I presume and football fans are very much fools. Why else would they still be handing over their hard earned.

Fletcher is getting a touch of the Steve Kean untouchableness. I suppose it's hard to turn against a striking hero of administration (proudest moment and all that). Someones who's own wife is retweeted by the club president in his defence. Where dissent in drummed out and pulled down. Where the narrative is that Brent is hurting as much as everyone else, who is there watching home and away with his kids, that he enjoys a pint with the great unwashed and that they by email and letter have told them how much they agree with him anyway.

It's the last throw of the dice at we go into Christmas without a couple of loan signings and the New Year when traditionally the club has always found it hard to push on.

Dougie wrote:

James Brent is nothing but obstinate. He was despite the clamour over the Gasboard election and set up. And he's at it again. He doesn't suffer fools gladly I presume and football fans are very much fools. Why else would they still be handing over their hard earned.

Fletcher is getting a touch of the Steve Kean untouchableness. I suppose it's hard to turn against a striking hero of administration (proudest moment and all that). Someones who's own wife is retweeted by the club president in his defence. Where dissent in drummed out and pulled down. Where the narrative is that Brent is hurting as much as everyone else, who is there watching home and away with his kids, that he enjoys a pint with the great unwashed and that they by email and letter have told them how much they agree with him anyway.

It's the last throw of the dice at we go into Christmas without a couple of loan signings and the New Year when traditionally the club has always found it hard to push on.

That's they'm bloody Exeter fans

What a waste of money, get rid of the donkey and get a proper manager in!!

this cub is such a joke

May i be the first to say for director of football in his dreams

F*** OFF BRENT!

Wake me up when this nightmare is over

If brent can afford a DOF to babysit clueless, he can afford a decent manager who wont need babysitting and do want the fans want for a change, (the sane ones not the space cadets from crownhill) and sack the master of disaster clueless.

Schlumberger wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Also, doesnt appointing a director of football now weaken carl fletcher's position? after all if results improve it will be down to his influence not carl!

just had that thought does anyone agree with it at all?

I agree. I think it's the beginning of a shuffling exercise to move Fletch sideways, albeit via stealth mode. If, 'IF' the DoF's input is any good and results pick-up, it will highlight Fletch's woeful tactical bollockness and it will conveniantly trigger Brent to 'appear' to have some balls and sack Fletch.

Smoke, Mirrors, black capes and top-hats spring to mind.

Shite, rotten and amateur from top to bottom. In the imortal words of Duncan Bannatyne, Hilary Devey, Theo Paphitis, Deborah Meaden and Peter Jones, I'm out.

Absolutely.For me,the key wording was that the DoF would be appointed until the end of the season "initially".OK so Gary Dowie comes in and Argyle get some results between now and the end of the season.What kind of a cleft stick would that leave Fletcher in? He couldn't possibly be appointed as manager on his own again after failing twice and needing the help of a more experienced and competent man-how could the fanbase and, more importantly,the players have confidence in a manager under those circumstances? Unless some sort of joint managership is envisaged with Fletcher being the understudy to the new guy in the medium term or longer [an arrangement fraught with dangers in itself regarding blurred responsibilities ],then i think Fletcher is a lame duck and can't possibly continue as Argyle manager,either now or in the future.Complete balls up IMHO,just pay him up and get the new guy in right away-this is Argyle's very future at stake here and some people need to wake up to that fact very quickly.

The problem for Fletch is that if Argyle do well, once the DoF is installed, it is due to the DoF. If we continue to lose he (Clueless) will be blamed.

Fletch is in a Lose: lose situation (although gets paid £2k per week for the privilege)

So last season we are struggling, we appoint Deehan as DoF and our performance improves. His contract isn't renewed and then, despite bringing new players in, our performance deteriorates again Now we are employing a DoF again!

I suppose the issue is 1) what exact role will the DoF will have, all the article refers to is 'football experience' 2) whether CF is really happy with a DoF being appointed (his statement at the end of the article has a hint of 'gritted teeth' about it, but that might just be my reading of it).

At least it is some acknowledgement that things need to change, but if the DoF role is back-office technical stuff that isn't where the main issue is. The main issue is with the results on the pitch, and surely under any structure that is the manager's remit.

Chemical Ali wrote:

The problem for Fletch is that if Argyle do well, once the DoF is installed, it is due to the DoF. If we continue to lose he (Clueless) will be blamed.

Fletch is in a Lose: lose situation (although gets paid £2k per week for the privilege)

2k is More then most get in a month.....time to put the viloins away,put sentiment aside and show this arrogant pr*ck the door once and for all..if he fancies management so much let him start where Lee Hodges had to start...we dont owe him feck all.

This club is ran by friggin madmen.

GreenWhiteBlack wrote:

this cub is such a joke

I have certainly found it hard to 'bear' over the years.

There is an old Mexican saying, "that when god wishes to punish us he gives us what we want", be careful what you wish for would seem to be its maxim. Hard as it is to argue that my cat couldn't do a better job than Fletch, the grass is not always greener, especially when you have to pay for it this time.

Gotta dash, haven't sent today's quota of supportive emails.

Still at least the the 23 other managers in this great league are probably happy that our promising young manager will be staying for the time being. Gives them chance to look at what ageing injury prone players surplus to requirements they can offload to good old Argo. They must be circling their fixtures with us right now on their calendars in red ink with 3 pts to us written in large letters.
I'm afraid I can only try and make light of this bollocks up at H.P.

So how long to get someone in or is it already a done deal with negotiations going on over the past few weeks since say Dorchester. Has to in place in the next couple of weeks downtime League wise to get things moving for Christmas fixtures and January transfer window.

Where's the PASB when you need them?

Dougie wrote:

So how long to get someone in or is it already a done deal with negotiations going on over the past few weeks since say Dorchester. Has to in place in the next couple of weeks downtime League wise to get things moving for Christmas fixtures and January transfer window.

I suspect that someone's already lined up, that it's probably someone who has worked with Sextone before, and like Driscoll, doesn't want the "Manager, PAFC" tag tying him to Home Park in case something better comes along.

Flat_Track_Bully wrote:

So last season we are struggling, we appoint Deehan as DoF and our performance improves. His contract isn't renewed and then, despite bringing new players in, our performance deteriorates again Now we are employing a DoF again!

I suppose the issue is 1) what exact role will the DoF will have, all the article refers to is 'football experience' 2) whether CF is really happy with a DoF being appointed (his statement at the end of the article has a hint of 'gritted teeth' about it, but that might just be my reading of it).

At least it is some acknowledgement that things need to change, but if the DoF role is back-office technical stuff that isn't where the main issue is. The main issue is with the results on the pitch, and surely under any structure that is the manager's remit.

Zackly. If performances do improve again under a DOF, then it would strongly suggest it should have been Deehan retained instead of Fletcher, and whoever the new guy is, he could help turn it around but then what? Fletcher says he doesn't need any more help again?

You don't need a DOF if you have an experienced manager. If Fletcher is so feckin incredible why are we so shite? And it means that Brent and Sextone don't think Fletcher is up to the job.

Get rid Brent. This is more fannying about that means at the end of the season no-one knows who kept us up?

That's if we stay up.

Oh dear.