Argyle V Chesterfield

Penzance wrote:

You're wasting your breath, greenskin, and your money. They aren't for turning ... the sycophants, management and new owners have a boys' own 'blood brothers in arms' pact, and they would rather drop out of the league rather than admit the horse they backed and the not very pleasant culture they have created is doomed..... might see a scorched earth attitude soon if things get worse. Some of them have blindly painted themselves into a corner, and haven't the wit to get out of it.

As for banners, football clubs have always pulled "out" banners fropm fans. there's only one thing they don't understand and can't handle ..... just don't go.... rip up season tickets if it's that bad .... that WILL change their minds ... always has.
5,700 ? ... that will include the 4 season ticket holders I know that didn't go ?

Unfortunately i've already wasted my money,Penz.Frankly i was astonished when the 5700 figure was given out after the match-my estimate would have been 4500 tops.According to someone on PASOTI,the season ticket holders who don't go are included in the overall figure,so yes it looks like your friends would have helped to make up the 5700.Also according to PASOTI,the guy with the drum deliberately tried to drown out the Fletcher out chants because "Fletch is his favourite manager".Oh dear,on more than one level.

We should lower our expectations. Don't you ingrates realise that we've only been out of Administration for a year? How can we possibly expect to be competitive in this league when it was only 12 months ago that we were rattling buckets to ensure that the staff had a bit of money. I mean, it's not as if a team currently in Administration could possibly be challenging in second place at the top of League 2, is it?

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Carl Fletcher's post match response - have a guess what he said

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Tragically he really seems to believe what he's saying.

Today though we actually did play well for over an hour, just dreadful finishing let us down. The bigger picture though is atrocious. It's a disgrace that we are 19th in League 2, an absolute disgrace. The blame shifts more towards Brent every day he refuses to make the change that needs to be made. This incompetent manager cannot be allowed to continue or we may well go down, something I didn't think was likely even under this woeful management team until this week. Fletcher out now.

Warny wrote:

Carl Fletcher's post match response - have a guess what he said

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Tragically he really seems to believe what he's saying.

Shut the f*** up clueless!!! No-one, well apart from 'charlie' the drummer apparently , gives a flying f*** what you think or say! You're a f***ing idiot! Get the f*** out of my club you clueless chump!

Freathy wrote:

Warny wrote:

Carl Fletcher's post match response - have a guess what he said

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Tragically he really seems to believe what he's saying.

Shut the f*** up clueless!!! No-one, well apart from 'charlie' the drummer apparently , gives a flying f*** what you think or say! You're a f***ing idiot! Get the f*** out of my club you clueless chump!

Mark Freathy down as being in the "Fletcher Out" camp please.



Christ on a bike, why am I lol ing. The slow, painful, agonising death of my club is so sad.

PAFC - the graveyard of ambition with Brent as head groundsman and Webb and Newell as grave diggers in chief.

Warny wrote:

Carl Fletcher's post match response - have a guess what he said

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Tragically he really seems to believe what he's saying.

Perhaps more poignant, his boss believes what he's saying!

greensam wrote:

Unfortunately i've already wasted my money,Penz.Frankly i was astonished when the 5700 figure was given out after the match-my estimate would have been 4500 tops.According to someone on PASOTI,the season ticket holders who don't go are included in the overall figure,so yes it looks like your friends would have helped to make up the 5700.Also according to PASOTI,the guy with the drum deliberately tried to drown out the Fletcher out chants because "Fletch is his favourite manager".Oh dear,on more than one level.

Sam, by many accounts, the method of publishing attendance figures changed under the old regime ( from bodies attending to tickets sold .. with the obvious non attending ST issue ) under the logic of marketing the club, and many fans' accurate weekly estimation of crowds at HP went out the window when compared to Ridsdale's figures ... doesn't take much working out. I readjusted my estimates at HP by 750 to 1000, and I was then back on the mark as I had been for 40 years.
Funnily enough, while not the same thing, somewhat related matters have hit the headlines recently with Hewlet Packard accusing Autonomy of portraying a dodgy sales history and hence the company to be far more healthy than it actually was when it was purchased ... all a bit Kagami and who can forget stapes' "selling club" routine. Not much selling input into the P and L ac these days, Paul. Bullshit.

Many dodgy misrepresentations have become de rigeur in a morally bankrupt Western capitalist system and have landed us in the mes we're in... the whole world is at it now ... it's disgusting. Analysts call that particular sales inflating "stuffing the channel" when businesses are up for sale.

I see Mackie scored at old Trafford today and usually I would be moaning about the players we've lost recently but now I realise those days are long over and I can accept that grudgingly, but this has nothing to do with how far we've fallen, we're a big club, get good support etc this is about being 1 point off relegation into the BSP again.

It's not good enough for any club, big, small, big crowds, tiny crowds. This is the basement league and we're at the bottom. Every club would sack their management after a year of this.

Get that clown out now.

Penzance wrote:

greensam wrote:

Unfortunately i've already wasted my money,Penz.Frankly i was astonished when the 5700 figure was given out after the match-my estimate would have been 4500 tops.According to someone on PASOTI,the season ticket holders who don't go are included in the overall figure,so yes it looks like your friends would have helped to make up the 5700.Also according to PASOTI,the guy with the drum deliberately tried to drown out the Fletcher out chants because "Fletch is his favourite manager".Oh dear,on more than one level.

Sam, by many accounts, the method of publishing attendance figures changed under the old regime ( from bodies attending to tickets sold .. with the obvious non attending ST issue ) under the logic of marketing the club, and many fans' accurate weekly estimation of crowds at HP went out the window when compared to Ridsdale's figures ... doesn't take much working out. I readjusted my estimates at HP by 750 to 1000, and I was then back on the mark as I had been for 40 years.
Funnily enough, while not the same thing, somewhat related matters have hit the headlines recently with Hewlet Packard accusing Autonomy of portraying a dodgy sales history and hence the company to be far more healthy than it actually was when it was purchased ... all a bit Kagami and who can forget stapes' "selling club" routine. Not much selling input into the P and L ac these days, Paul. Bullshit.

Many dodgy misrepresentations have become de rigeur in a morally bankrupt Western capitalist system and have landed us in the mes we're in... the whole world is at it now ... it's disgusting. Analysts call that particular sales inflating "stuffing the channel" when businesses are up for sale.

Hang on. Quoting error I think there PP. It wasn't me who posted that quote.

GreenSam wrote:

Penzance wrote:

greensam wrote:

Unfortunately i've already wasted my money,Penz.Frankly i was astonished when the 5700 figure was given out after the match-my estimate would have been 4500 tops.According to someone on PASOTI,the season ticket holders who don't go are included in the overall figure,so yes it looks like your friends would have helped to make up the 5700.Also according to PASOTI,the guy with the drum deliberately tried to drown out the Fletcher out chants because "Fletch is his favourite manager".Oh dear,on more than one level.

Sam, by many accounts, the method of publishing attendance figures changed under the old regime ( from bodies attending to tickets sold .. with the obvious non attending ST issue ) under the logic of marketing the club, and many fans' accurate weekly estimation of crowds at HP went out the window when compared to Ridsdale's figures ... doesn't take much working out. I readjusted my estimates at HP by 750 to 1000, and I was then back on the mark as I had been for 40 years.
Funnily enough, while not the same thing, somewhat related matters have hit the headlines recently with Hewlet Packard accusing Autonomy of portraying a dodgy sales history and hence the company to be far more healthy than it actually was when it was purchased ... all a bit Kagami and who can forget stapes' "selling club" routine. Not much selling input into the P and L ac these days, Paul. Bullshit.

Many dodgy misrepresentations have become de rigeur in a morally bankrupt Western capitalist system and have landed us in the mes we're in... the whole world is at it now ... it's disgusting. Analysts call that particular sales inflating "stuffing the channel" when businesses are up for sale.

Hang on. Quoting error I think there PP. It wasn't me who posted that quote.

It were me.

The only thing that amazes me is that anyone has taken so long to realise the club is being run by self promoting dimwits and what is now transpiring was inevitable once that culture took hold.
Brent and his jamboys

Crowd no where near 5.7k, complete and utter lie, they must take how ever many 'memberships' weve sold (4k?) and add that to the odd 1000 that paid on the gate, i would say the attendance was nearer 4.5k