Lowe OUT.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I have to say if I had a criticism of Hallet, then not having Nigel the nipples in a position of authority at the club would be it.

Luckily he can be found on Twitter @ BIG CORNISH HAIRY NIPPLE LOVER. Enjoy !

What is twitter? Is it porn?

Angry wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Lowe has bought over a dozen players to the Club since the end of last season, so:

a)Hallett has really backed Lowe, in terms of transfer, loan, signing on and agents fees.

b) Hallett must be wondering if a) was a wise move.

Jeez Wept...  A)  How many times do you need to be told that figure was capped at 2.6 million by the EFL last season (give or take a couple of small exceptions).  How that figure was spent, was up to Lowe.  

Do you have a problem remembering things?  We've been over this several times and yet you seem to ignore reality?


and..  B)  There was no other move Hallett could make, except sack Lowe.   ...and that was never ever going to happen.  Except in 'Freathyworld'.

there is no point falling for the trap groovy sets cause he knows the score hes just trolling now much like harve does with the covid and boris johnson shit.

Fella dont make your problem become my problem in relation to your level of intelligence....not all of us work pay cheque to pay cheque as you do.
If you want to post on the Corrupt thread (not mine) than do.....If you want to post on the Covid thread (not mine) than do

In the interim feck off or better still take it to PM......

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I have to say if I had a criticism of Hallet, then not having Nigel the nipples in a position of authority at the club would be it.

Luckily he can be found on Twitter @ BIG CORNISH HAIRY NIPPLE LOVER. Enjoy !

What is twitter? Is it porn?

I was going to put a sarcastic response but then I'd be accused of doing an "Angry"

PP.....No I dont think anyone expected us to be challenging near the top but the lack of consistency has been pretty appalling
Lowe hasn't a clue who is best 11 are or what positions to play them in.

If an offer comes in for Jepchott in the close season we'd do well to take it. He's no Tynan in hindsight

Complete new team required on top of existing contracted players. Cooper yet again at fault yesterday with first and third but thats no secret to Lowe.

Yeah he'll get another season but as the Angry character says if we're struggling at the end of October than look out

This season has been utterly forgettable - for a plethora of reasons. But it’s done now.

What is clear to all but the terminally dimwitted is that Lowe will be given another go next year. What is also desperately clear, is that the Lowe/Shumacher/Dairy Farmer coaching axis have no clue whatsoever how to marshall and coach a defensive unit.

Scouse pride needs to be swallowed and there has to be a conversation between Lowe and the Board about bringing in a dedicated competent defensive coach this summer.

I cannot remember a season where so many goals conceded have been entirely down to our own defensive calamities.

Wholesale changes at the back and a proper defensive coach, or it’s another painful season next year.

Czarcasm wrote:

This season has been utterly forgettable - for a plethora of reasons. But it’s done now.

What is clear to all but the terminally dimwitted is that Lowe will be given another go next year. What is also desperately clear, is that the Lowe/Shumacher/Dairy Farmer coaching axis have no clue whatsoever how to marshall and coach a defensive unit.

Scouse pride needs to be swallowed and there has to be a conversation between Lowe and the Board about bringing in a dedicated competent defensive coach this summer.

I cannot remember a season where so many goals conceded have been entirely down to our own defensive calamities.

Wholesale changes at the back and a proper defensive coach, or it’s another painful season next year.

This with bells on...

Except there were periods of the season that were great fun to watch. They have just dimmed in the memory with recent results.

Czarcasm wrote:

This season has been utterly forgettable - for a plethora of reasons. But it’s done now.

What is clear to all but the terminally dimwitted is that Lowe will be given another go next year. What is also desperately clear, is that the Lowe/Shumacher/Dairy Farmer coaching axis have no clue whatsoever how to marshall and coach a defensive unit.

Scouse pride needs to be swallowed and there has to be a conversation between Lowe and the Board about bringing in a dedicated competent defensive coach this summer.

I cannot remember a season where so many goals conceded have been entirely down to our own defensive calamities.

Wholesale changes at the back and a proper defensive coach, or it’s another painful season next year.

At last some common sense

Czarcasm wrote:

This season has been utterly forgettable - for a plethora of reasons. But it’s done now.

What is clear to all but the terminally dimwitted is that Lowe will be given another go next year. What is also desperately clear, is that the Lowe/Shumacher/Dairy Farmer coaching axis have no clue whatsoever how to marshall and coach a defensive unit.

Scouse pride needs to be swallowed and there has to be a conversation between Lowe and the Board about bringing in a dedicated competent defensive coach this summer.

I cannot remember a season where so many goals conceded have been entirely down to our own defensive calamities.

Wholesale changes at the back and a proper defensive coach, or it’s another painful season next year.

Actually this makes a lot of sense. This season will not last in anyone's memory, most of all because apart from a few brief autumnal weeks no one was actually there to see it. Football nostalgia in the most part is not born through crappy internet streams nor local radio commentators. It's about actually being there and we weren't, we haven't really missed anything. Far better to be kept out through a season like this. Imagine being a fan of Hull or Peterborough. Or perennial struggles Cheltenham and Morecambe. Missing out on the resurgance at Bolton. Being from the blue side of Glasgow. Even being a Wycombe fan...

In hindsisght we've been lucky, this season has been weird for the obvious reasons and while we should be angry with the performances and our absolutely shoddy defence it's crossed with a whole lot of meh. Part of still feels we're lucky to be in this division anyway (but that's another story).

And my cynical side says finishing where we will (probably 19th) works on a whole other level. We stay up and whatever win bonuses (are these still in contracts) there are will be minimal for that reward which given the lack of income makes sound financial sense. It's one way of keeping costs down. There's no poisonous match day atmosphere, it's like giving Lowe a free hit at being a third division manager without the pressure. When they have their post season review if he shows he hasn't learnt anything then Hallett should act fast as there won't be any second chances next season.

Steep learning curve for Lowe next season, he will continue to play passing open football, no doubt which at times as Rickler pointed out has been good to watch and exciting.
But clearly, the style and consistent Lowe formations has been sussed out some time ago by more experienced managers.
So Lowe has to find a way of avoiding that, so recruitment is absolutely key.
We do have a decent nucleus of players to move forward so I'mfairly convinced we will have much better season in 21/22.
If there is no obvious sign of that, I believe Hallett will pull the trigger on Lowe and Shumacher, and so he should.
No second chances next season.

harvetheslayer wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I have to say if I had a criticism of Hallet, then not having Nigel the nipples in a position of authority at the club would be it.

Luckily he can be found on Twitter @ BIG CORNISH HAIRY NIPPLE LOVER. Enjoy !

What is twitter? Is it porn?

I was going to put a sarcastic response but then I'd be accused of doing an "Angry"

PP.....No I dont think anyone expected us to be challenging near the top but the lack of consistency has been pretty appalling
Lowe hasn't a clue who is best 11 are or what positions to play them in.

If an offer comes in for Jepchott in the close season we'd do well to take it. He's no Tynan in hindsight

Complete new team required on top of existing contracted players. Cooper yet again at fault yesterday with first and third but thats no secret to Lowe.

Yeah he'll get another season but as the Angry character says if we're struggling at the end of October than look out

Three possible replies to that statement;

a.You're on a wind up

b.You don't know much about football and goalkeeping in particular

c.You made up your mind about the bloke early on and will come to any conclusion,however left field it seems to others, to justify your opinion

If you took a poll of 100 ex professional goalkeepers,then i can guarantee you 100 percent that not one of them would have faulted Cooper for those goals,not one.If option a is the reality,then congratulations,you've partially succeeded.If option b or c-you're entitled to your opinion of course but wouldn't have thought that it has much credibility with many people.

As I've said many times this season I don't think Hallett will sack Lowe but in recent weeks I've come to the conclusion that he should as I've lost all confidence in his player selection and coaching ability. I do love a bit of loyalty but FFS the last couple of months has seen some of the worst football it's been my misfortune to watch in my fifty odd year Argyle career and that really is saying something.

Aye we stayed up which is more than Swindon did, unless something drastic happens with the defence coaching then we'll be down next season.

An interesting stat I saw yesterday was the keeper with the most saves in league 1 at 141 is Cooper. I would say most of those would be down to the crap defenders in front of him not doing what they are supposed to do and deal with the opposition attacks.

Everyone gets a tonking now and then but we've been hit for 4,5 and 6 this season, can't blame the keeper for all of them. Lowe needs to bring in decent defenders asap. I know he's learning his trade so we'll see if lessons have been learnt

Ryan truly needs to be ruthless with his own coaching staff by bringing in a coach who has defence experience who can work with the new guys coming in and advise Ryan on best to defend a lead as thats something he simply cant do. If has to to offload either his assistant or nance to bring that guy in then he has to do it for the greater good.

Results and performances have been completely unacceptable this season and as the person responsible I think he should be sacked. I accept he won't be sacked - and that will mean another season of struggle next season and very probably relegation. If crowds are back in 21/22 he'll deffo get a very sharp dose of reality with the horror shows he's been regularly putting out this season. Not many other clubs' fans would put with Lowe as manager for very long.

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Lowe has bought over a dozen players to the Club since the end of last season, so:

a)Hallett has really backed Lowe, in terms of transfer, loan, signing on and agents fees.

b) Hallett must be wondering if a) was a wise move.

Jeez Wept...  A)  How many times do you need to be told that figure was capped at 2.6 million by the EFL last season (give or take a couple of small exceptions).  How that figure was spent, was up to Lowe.  

Do you have a problem remembering things?  We've been over this several times and yet you seem to ignore reality?


and..  B)  There was no other move Hallett could make, except sack Lowe.   ...and that was never ever going to happen.  Except in 'Freathyworld'.

Total spend on player salaries was capped, I've not mentioned salaries

Transfer fees, loan fees and agent's fees were never capped. That's all optional spending-Hallett could have said "Don't buy anyone, don't pay any loan fees, re sign players to reduce agent's fees. He didn't

Yes they were

“League One and Two Clubs are also going to continue discussions towards the introduction of additional measures aimed at addressing Club financial sustainability.

When calculating total salary spending, the ‘cap’ includes:

Basic Wages;

Taxes;

Bonuses;

Image rights;

Agents’ fees and;

Other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to all registered players.

Payments directly linked to a Club’s progression in cup competitions or promotion are excluded from the Cap, while any income generated from players going out on loan is deducted from the Club’s Salary Cap calculation.”

But those discussions never got anywhere. There's no cap on fees paid to agents by clubs, a condition of getting a PL bailout payment was that those in receipt didn't pay any transfer fees in January , and even the salary cap has now been scrapped.

Anyone who thinks a Manager signs a dozen players without the support of the Chairman is mistaken. Argyle did this last summer and it's not seen much (if any) improvement in the squad

Grovehill wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Lowe has bought over a dozen players to the Club since the end of last season, so:

a)Hallett has really backed Lowe, in terms of transfer, loan, signing on and agents fees.

b) Hallett must be wondering if a) was a wise move.

Jeez Wept...  A)  How many times do you need to be told that figure was capped at 2.6 million by the EFL last season (give or take a couple of small exceptions).  How that figure was spent, was up to Lowe.  

Do you have a problem remembering things?  We've been over this several times and yet you seem to ignore reality?


and..  B)  There was no other move Hallett could make, except sack Lowe.   ...and that was never ever going to happen.  Except in 'Freathyworld'.

Total spend on player salaries was capped, I've not mentioned salaries

Transfer fees, loan fees and agent's fees were never capped. That's all optional spending-Hallett could have said "Don't buy anyone, don't pay any loan fees, re sign players to reduce agent's fees. He didn't

Yes they were

“League One and Two Clubs are also going to continue discussions towards the introduction of additional measures aimed at addressing Club financial sustainability.

When calculating total salary spending, the ‘cap’ includes:

Basic Wages;

Taxes;

Bonuses;

Image rights;

Agents’ fees and;

Other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to all registered players.

Payments directly linked to a Club’s progression in cup competitions or promotion are excluded from the Cap, while any income generated from players going out on loan is deducted from the Club’s Salary Cap calculation.”

But those discussions never got anywhere. There's no cap on fees paid to agents by clubs, a condition of getting a PL bailout payment was that those in receipt didn't pay any transfer fees in January , and even the salary cap has now been scrapped.

Anyone who thinks a Manager signs a dozen players without the support of the Chairman is mistaken. Argyle did this last summer and it's not seen much (if any) improvement in the squad

As I said earlier...  

Rickler wrote:

and next week...  He'll be back still saying the same thing and claiming it's true.  

A refusal to accept reality.

Seriously...  There is no hope for you.

Mook wrote:

Everyone gets a tonking now and then but we've been hit for 4,5 and 6 this season, can't blame the keeper for all of them. Lowe needs to bring in decent defenders asap. I know he's learning his trade so we'll see if lessons have been learnt

Verdict from Errington.
Mike Cooper 8 STAR MAN - Despite Argyle's dismal goals against record their 21-year-old keeper should not take that to heart. He has still produced some good performances behind a shaky defence, such as the one against Oxford.

akagreengull wrote:

Mook wrote:

Everyone gets a tonking now and then but we've been hit for 4,5 and 6 this season, can't blame the keeper for all of them. Lowe needs to bring in decent defenders asap. I know he's learning his trade so we'll see if lessons have been learnt

Verdict from Errington.
Mike Cooper 8 STAR MAN - Despite Argyle's dismal goals against record their 21-year-old keeper should not take that to heart. He has still produced some good performances behind a shaky defence, such as the one against Oxford.

to be honest his raitings are suspect as he never calls a player out for playing shit and will just give them 4 never lower and would hype an ok performance as something outstanding by over rating them.

I pay as much attention to Erringtons opinion as I do Dickler and the other happy clappers.

Earwegoagain wrote:

I pay as much attention to Erringtons opinion as I do Dickler and the other happy clappers.

..and therein lies your big problem. Thick as a brick.

Earwegoagain wrote:

I pay as much attention to Erringtons opinion as I do Dickler and the other happy clappers.

Just making a point about Cooper, yep agree about Errorington - been writing green tinted bollox for years.

its ok panic over we have a secret weapon for next season to improve results in the form of a new sponsor.... Turmeric...

Ive heard it works wonders for health lets see how it does with a shit defence.

Rickler wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

I pay as much attention to Erringtons opinion as I do Dickler and the other happy clappers.

..and therein lies your big problem.  Thick as a brick.

And that sums up your posting on this site to a tee, you never post an opinion you just call anybody a thick moron who doesn't lick arse as hard as you do. The nearest you have come to posting anything about the actual players or the games was last week when you posted "ouch!" Briefest of synopsis ever.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

I pay as much attention to Erringtons opinion as I do Dickler and the other happy clappers.

..and therein lies your big problem.  Thick as a brick.

And that sums up your posting on this site to a tee, you never post an opinion you just call anybody a thick moron who doesn't lick arse as hard as you do. The nearest you have come to posting anything about the actual players or the games was last week when you posted "ouch!" Briefest of synopsis ever.

I said more in one word than you manage in a million. You could post to the end of eternity and every word would be worthless.