Argyle v Rochdale

I don't think even Freathers would've had us lose 4 nil to this lot

RegGreen wrote:

Fancy us tonight to make amends after 2 consecutive league defeats with a little cheeky 3-0

boy where you wrong

Skating on thin ice now Lowe, if the home form goes you'll have to go too.

RegGreen wrote:

Fancy us tonight to make amends after 2 consecutive league defeats with a little cheeky 3-0

boy where you wrong

am i one of those "not a proper fan" as i got home saw it was 3-0 and wasnt interested at all in login in too watch the game from the start or indeed at all?

Turgid, can’t pass, can’t head, couldn’t do feck all right, absolute piss poor performance, their GK could have stayed home in Rochdale and we wouldn’t have scored, crap🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

So far I have been very supportive of Lowe, Shumacher and the team, but to be completely blown out of the water tactically twice in three games? Hmm.

definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different results... We know Wootton and Canavan are shit in this league and that wont change due to one season in a lower league yet Ryan kept BOTH! and not only that dropped Opoku and Aimson for them.. We should have never kept both that was poor business all round.
As for M. Cooper he is clearly talented with a bright future but he is not experienced enough yet to cope with the defensive aspect of this team being so bad and leaving him exposed much like Matt Macey couldnt cope. With those saying dropping Cooper will damage his confidence i disagree as im sure mike isnt that soft however playing him during this stint and exposing him to 4-0 defeats will do more harm than good and with the defence this bad it may need an experience head like McCormick coming in for a run and sorting them out giving mike an out before bringing him back.

Ryan if he ever wants to be this big time manager had better recognise and fast that he has to develop more than one way of playing football if his preferred route isnt working otherwise you get what happend tonight and the other games he hasnt got a plan b and its going to harm us and his career till he addresses that flaw. Its not good enough to just have your fingers in all areas of the club by having youth setup tailored to your liking aswell as the scouting and medical departments if your not doing your job right on the pitch.
I didnt think we would be in the play off hunt this season naturally as i am a realist but i did hope we would be in a healthy mid table position come May with something to build on for the following season. At the moment im seeing a relegation fight looming and with this defence its going to be painful.

akagreengull wrote:

So far I have been very supportive of Lowe, Shumacher and the team, but to be completely blown out of the water tactically twice in three games? Hmm.

About four or five games ago I was thinking it was the best I'd seen an Argyle team play in years, now the pre season doubts are starting to resurface. Lowe needs to shake things up a bit and fast.

Earwegoagain wrote:

akagreengull wrote:

So far I have been very supportive of Lowe, Shumacher and the team, but to be completely blown out of the water tactically twice in three games? Hmm.

About four or five games ago I was thinking it was the best I'd seen an Argyle team play in years, now the pre season doubts are starting to resurface. Lowe needs to shake things up a bit and fast.

Its the same scenario we faced under Del Bhey where we looked good going forward but utter shit in defence and even under a new manager we still struggle to do the attacking work and be solid at the back. I like Ryan and i hope he has some defenders in mind in January cause we need them.

Cooper has to go.
McCormick in immediately and for the rest of the season. Without an experienced (and superior quality) keeper in situ than we'll be skirting around the relegation zone before long

The biggest alarm bells ringing is Opoku and Aimson being on the bench and Lowe preferring Canavan and Wooton. Wtf is going through his head to make that decision?

The defending last night was beyond comical. I found myself actually laughing out loud at some of it. Add Danny Mayor’s absence to that and we were always in for a long night.


It crossed my mind during the Fleetwood debacle but I think our Ryan is angling to get sacked. Nice pay off and then he would still get a reasonable job back up north on the back of his two promotions.

Never trust a Scouser.

Depressing, as clueless a performance as I've seen in a long while. I just can't understand how we got to that.

This is a mediocre L2 standard team trying to play in L1 managed by someone who only has one game plan and no backup. If we're going to survive we need someone in to replace Lowe who can at least drill this team of shite players into a unit that is not so easy to beat. A Pulis type manager.

Freathy wrote:

This is a mediocre L2 standard team trying to play in L1 managed by someone who only has one game plan and no backup.  If we're going to survive we need someone in to replace Lowe who can at least drill this team of shite players into a unit that is not so easy to beat.  A Pulis type manager.

hopefully sunderland are stupid enough to pay for him and his coaching staff... Just dont let him snap up Jephcott or M Cooper without the serious money offered.

Czarcasm wrote:

The biggest alarm bells ringing is Opoku and Aimson being on the bench and Lowe preferring Canavan and Wooton. Wtf is going through his head to make that decision?

The defending last night was beyond comical. I found myself actually laughing out loud at some of it. Add Danny Mayor’s absence to that and we were always in for a long night.


It crossed my mind during the Fleetwood debacle but I think our Ryan is angling to get sacked. Nice pay off and then he would still get a reasonable job back up north on the back of his two promotions.

Never trust a Scouser.  

The 2 highlighted parts ... 1 million %

Terrible result, enough said.

Stout hearts fellas, we regroup and go again on sat. In Lowe we trust.

Aye he needs to come up with a plan b and recognise it can't just be the players at fault for shipping 9 goals in 2 games.

Get a defensive coach in to help him out, there's no weakness in asking for a hand and to learn from.

Utter shite, the match that is.

Pray spare us the 'highlights' Ivor.

Hallett has got to put a short time limit on these appalling performances and results before he presses the fire button. The business end of the season will be here in no time and then it will be too late and back to brent's basement we will go.

Angry wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

akagreengull wrote:

So far I have been very supportive of Lowe, Shumacher and the team, but to be completely blown out of the water tactically twice in three games? Hmm.

About four or five games ago I was thinking it was the best I'd seen an Argyle team play in years, now the pre season doubts are starting to resurface. Lowe needs to shake things up a bit and fast.

Its the same scenario we faced under Del Bhey where we looked good going forward but utter shit in defence and even under a new manager we still struggle to do the attacking work and be solid at the back. I like Ryan and i hope he has some defenders in mind in January cause we need them.

But Lowe has already signed 2 keepers, 3 CB's and three wing backs! What makes you think any future signings will be any better? And will we be lumbered with what's already here?

When he joined, I did question Lowe's tactical nous as he doesn't seem to have a Plan B. I think Managing at this level has caught him out.

He is the lower League Kevin Keegan, lots of talk, but thinks tactics is a box of mints.

Angry wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

Fancy us tonight to make amends after 2 consecutive league defeats with a little cheeky 3-0

boy where you wrong

wasn’t I just ..I was going on there form and tbf there not a good side should have been a comfortable 3points
Shocking defending defending from Cooper wooden wooton & static caravan if LMC is fit needs to be brought in for the big game against Ipswich lose that and that would be 4 league games on the bounce

Jesus H Christ...

The first rough patch Lowe has gone through and half of ATD suddenly wants him fired.

Get a grip.

Rickler wrote:

Jesus  H Christ...

The first rough patch Lowe has gone through and half of ATD suddenly wants him fired.

Get a grip.

Agreed. Hands up, I was a touch 'knee jerk' last night ... shell shock