EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit.

Bent unelected beaurocrats on pensions of £90k p/a after just four years lining their own nests?

seadog wrote:

straight bananas etc, etc, etc.

Wonky fruit. FFS.

Johnson wants to get involved in a fishing war with France and trash an already fvcked economy? what a prick.

WTF? Remainers cause chaos!!

Sorry about it being the Scum but I didn't want to be tarred with the Harve brush by using the Grauniad one.

Just listening to Tory Tobias Elwood  (ex defence minister) on Sky saying 98% of the deal is agreed and urging Johnson to sign off whats been achieved and sort the fish etc in the new year

Nobody could possibly argue the point on all sides of the house
Seriously is this egomaniac Johnson going to be "allowed" to cause further crippling devastation without his entire party screaming at him from all quarters today

If he does than we know exactly the real reason.....huge hedge fund bets. Simply no other explanation. Ears will come back with leave means leave doubtless at which point any sensible person will retort with then why have we been agreeing a deal for the last four and a half years

All about the money. Whats Johnsons cut of £1 Billion...

Bollocks he's simply doing what the majority of the country including you asked him to do four years ago. We didn't vote for a deal we voted to leave.

harvetheslayer wrote:

Just listening to Tory Tobias Elwood  (ex defence minister) on Sky saying 98% of the deal is agreed and urging Johnson to sign off whats been achieved and sort the fish etc in the new year

Nobody could possibly argue the point on all sides of the house
Seriously is this egomaniac Johnson going to be "allowed" to cause further crippling devastation without his entire party screaming at him from all quarters today

If he does than we know exactly the real reason.....huge hedge fund bets. Simply no other explanation. Ears will come back with leave means leave doubtless at which point any sensible person will retort with then why have we been agreeing a deal for the last four and a half years

All about the money. Whats Johnsons cut of £1 Billion...

That would be the sensible thing to do but Bozo is stupid and unhinged. In fact I think he's actually insane.  Seriously. He actually thinks he's Churchill.  But Churchill would never in a million years cause such willful and totally unnecessary catastrophic long term, even permanent, damage to the country's economy as this idiot seems hell bent on doing.   Churchill would have nothing but utter contempt for Bozo. Even Margaret Thatcher would never have been stupid enough to even contemplate leaving the EU single market.  No serious politician would.

There will be no winners here whatsoever, Brexiteers and Remainers alike will all suffer the long lasting fallout from this biggest mistake any country will make ever.

Bojo didn't ask us whether we wanted to stay in the EU Cameron did. Bojos just trying to honour the referendum and so he should.

lol

Earwegoagain wrote:

Bojo didn't ask us whether we wanted to stay in the EU Cameron did. Bojos just trying to honour the referendum and so he should.

Yes the naive and gormless Cameron is ultimately responsible - no other EU leader would ever have been so stupid. But Bozo is making it 100 times worse by forcing his utterly wreckless and disasterous no-deal on the country. And all at a time when the country is already on it's knees after his criminally incompetent handling of COVID crisis. Bozo is single handedly destroying the country. Plain and simple.

Cans been kicked down the road....last few minutes
Ears you're absolutely clueless fella

Freathy wrote:

Bozo is single handedly destroying the country.

No. The EU have done that over the past 45 years, systematically asset stripping everything we had. Time to start rebuilding now.

Lord Melbury wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Bozo is single handedly destroying the country.

No. The EU have done that over the past 45 years, systematically asset stripping everything we had. Time to start rebuilding now.

Nonsense. Leaving aside all the benefits from EU Environmental standards and workers rights etc. UK businesses have benefitted massively by having access to the single market. That's why businesses were worried about Brexit but are absolutely terrified of a no-deal. The country has benefitted massively from the EU's inward investment such as European Regional Development Funding for the country's poorest regions, including Plymouth and Cornwall. Then there's the many billions for UK science and technology R&D, including money for SMEs. Where is all this funding going to come from now. Not Bozo's tories that's for sure.

Brexiters seem to want to recapture a time when Britain had an empire. But instead they made sure the UK will break apart and what's left of it will be an isolated and irrelevant out post off the NW of Europe. Biden's US will want a trade deal the EU not what's left of the UK.

Give it up Freathers, little england will rise again like a garlic naan and rule the waves. If we can build warships that can go to sea, and employ enough crew.

I look forward to making humble apologies on here next year, begging forgiveness for ever doubting the valiant Winston Johnston and his band of fearless disaster capitalists doing the "will of the people" lol.

Soon be free.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Lord Melbury wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Bozo is single handedly destroying the country.

No. The EU have done that over the past 45 years, systematically asset stripping everything we had. Time to start rebuilding now.

Nonsense. Leaving aside all the benefits from EU Environmental standards and workers rights etc. UK businesses have benefitted massively by having access to the single market.  That's why businesses were worried about Brexit but are absolutely terrified of a no-deal.  The country has benefitted massively from the EU's inward investment such as European Regional Development Funding for the country's poorest regions, including Plymouth and Cornwall.  Then there's the many billions for UK science and technology R&D, including money for SMEs.  Where is all this funding going to come from now.  Not Bozo's tories that's for sure.

Brexiters seem to want to recapture a time when Britain had an empire.  But instead they made sure the UK will break apart and what's left of it will be an isolated and irrelevant out post off the NW of Europe.  Biden's US will want a trade deal the EU not what's left of the UK.

Yet again you are rewriting history and ignoring the facts, the EU didn't "Give Plymouth and Cornwall" money we gave the EU money they kept about half of it and gave the rest back. It was always our money and as it said on the side of the bus it's a feck of a lot, but again remainers will deny it all day long.

Yes of course all Member States pay the EU money that's how it works. And funding is invested back into the Member States in a proper and fair way by the European Commission, through the various programmes such as the EU's Multiannual Financial Framework. The poorest regions like Cornwall and Plymouth have benefited from investment through schemes like ERDF and ESIF which create infrastructure and jobs. And the billions (I think over 13 billion over the past 6 years) has been invested in science and technology in the UK - and when this stops it will adversely affect our standing and there will be an exodus of UK research scientists and engineers. And we pay to have access to the biggest single market in the world which UK companies greatly benefit from and this creates jobs and wealth for the UK. And then there's all the co-operation with European partners on security, crime, intelligence sharing etc. which again benefits the UK and all has to be paid for. Brexiteers believed liars Farage and Bozo that we pay 250 million per week (pathological liar Bozo of course lied it was 350 million a week on that bus) to the EU and get very little back. Yes, we won't have to pay into the EU anymore but make no mistake, the UK (or what's left of it) will be vastly poorer as a result. And if it's Bozo's no deal brexit then the last one to leave the UK please switch off the lights.

Now we give Serco and all of Doris's mates more than that each week for feck all. Plymouth and Cornwall are not rich enough to get any of this money.

Just watching that smirking evil Johnson on Sky

There are still these Brexiteer buffoons screaming walk away completely disregarding that 98% of the deal has been agreed. Absolute clowns

Perhaps these roasters can tell us all here to whom we're actually going to sell all these fish to !

Nuclear agreements, Security information shared etc etc all thrown in the bin for some mackeral that the Brits rarely eat in the first place is just pure insanity

Quite comical reading a Spanish forum with people literally crying that roaming will be ended. I'm sat there thinking these people have no idea of whats coming in the real world if they think mobile roaming is important in the overall picture

Johnsons simple message to every World leader.....what a shambles. His outrageous slur against Angela Merkel was vile and reprehensible

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Mind boggling just utter mind boggling and this is 600 Lorries NOT 10,000. Beyond comprehension unless you're about to get a multi million bonus from Hedge Fund players.

In a perverse sense this could well become comical unless the smirking clown comes to his senses

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I have a feeling Dover might just have slightly more processing capacity than a tiny outpost on the Latvia/Russia border.

From the business page of our very own Plymouth Live - Bristol Port issues statement as concern grows over UK shipping delays.

Sounds scary doesn't it, but wait, first para of the article - Bristol Port says it is “more than able” to cope with an increase in demand as concern grows around congestion at a number of major UK ports.


It's how they tell 'em...

Those french ferries that run to Bristol can heave a sigh of relief.

Czarcasm wrote:

I have a feeling Dover might just have slightly more processing capacity than a tiny outpost on the Latvia/Russia border.

Or is it just more EU red tape causing the problems?