Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds

harvetheslayer wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

A couple different friends of mine had booked Majorca and Tenerife. As it stands they won’t be able to go mainly due to not having an employer soft enough to still pay them for two weeks quarantine.

The issue they’ve got though is that they’ll lose their whole payment because the Foreign Office are only advising against all but essential travel to the Spanish mainland, not the Canaries or Balearics,  so they can’t claim on travel insurance.

They've added the Canaries and Balearics as well now

They have yeah. Instead of caving in and giving quarantine air bridges to the Islands, they’ve gone the other way and tightened it.

It’ll cripple the travel industry, but the alternative ain’t palatable. Catch 22 in’umm.

Czarcasm wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

A couple different friends of mine had booked Majorca and Tenerife. As it stands they won’t be able to go mainly due to not having an employer soft enough to still pay them for two weeks quarantine.

The issue they’ve got though is that they’ll lose their whole payment because the Foreign Office are only advising against all but essential travel to the Spanish mainland, not the Canaries or Balearics,  so they can’t claim on travel insurance.

They've added the Canaries and Balearics as well now

They have yeah. Instead of caving in and giving quarantine air bridges to the Islands, they’ve gone the other way and tightened it.

It’ll cripple the travel industry, but the alternative ain’t palatable. Catch 22 in’umm.

Gov is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. I'm pretty sure the gov realise they will get a kicking sooner or later for not dealing with the Italy returnees in an appropriate manner back in February so are covering their arses. Also if you look at the skyline in the Costas and the islands you can just see what sort of holidays are being taken, packages in large hotel/apartment blocks shared dining facilities, bars and pools plus crowded minibuses and coaches from the airports. It's an accident waiting to happen and should never have been allowed in the first place.

These are the reported covid-19 cases within Europe.

United Kingdom (300 111)
Spain (278 782)
Italy (246 286)
Germany (206 242),
France (183 079)
Sweden (79 395)
Belgium (66 335)
Netherlands (53 151)
Portugal (50 299)
Romania (45 902)
Poland (43 402)
Ireland (25 892)
Austria (20 550)
Czechia (15 516)
Denmark (13 547)
Bulgaria (10 621)
Norway (9 117)
Finland (7 398)
Luxembourg (6 321)
Croatia (4 881)
Hungary (4 456)
Greece (4 227)
Slovakia (2 181)
Slovenia (2 087)
Estonia (2 038)
Lithuania (2 019)
Iceland (1 854)
Latvia (1 220)
Cyprus (1 060)
Malta (701)
Liechtenstein (87)

VillageGreen wrote:

These are the current covid-19 cases within Europe.

United Kingdom (300 111)
Spain (278 782)
Italy (246 286)
Germany (206 242),
France (183 079)
Sweden (79 395)
Belgium (66 335)
Netherlands (53 151)
Portugal (50 299)
Romania (45 902)
Poland (43 402)
Ireland (25 892)
Austria (20 550)
Czechia (15 516)
Denmark (13 547)
Bulgaria (10 621)
Norway (9 117)
Finland (7 398)
Luxembourg (6 321)
Croatia (4 881)
Hungary (4 456)
Greece (4 227)
Slovakia (2 181)
Slovenia (2 087)
Estonia (2 038)
Lithuania (2 019)
Iceland (1 854)
Latvia (1 220)
Cyprus (1 060)
Malta (701)
Liechtenstein (87)

Shorely that’s historical data? Not ‘current’?

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This info is given out every day here in Portugal. The number above is Mondays count.

Stay safe.

Those figures are total number of cases.
Far more comprehensive data available daily for every country on Worldometers.info

Czarcasm wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

These are the current covid-19 cases within Europe.

United Kingdom (300 111)
Spain (278 782)
Italy (246 286)
Germany (206 242),
France (183 079)
Sweden (79 395)
Belgium (66 335)
Netherlands (53 151)
Portugal (50 299)
Romania (45 902)
Poland (43 402)
Ireland (25 892)
Austria (20 550)
Czechia (15 516)
Denmark (13 547)
Bulgaria (10 621)
Norway (9 117)
Finland (7 398)
Luxembourg (6 321)
Croatia (4 881)
Hungary (4 456)
Greece (4 227)
Slovakia (2 181)
Slovenia (2 087)
Estonia (2 038)
Lithuania (2 019)
Iceland (1 854)
Latvia (1 220)
Cyprus (1 060)
Malta (701)
Liechtenstein (87)

Shorely that’s historical data? Not ‘current’?

Twas taken from here

Changed the opening now.

Historical data it is. My error has been corrected and the hole i've dug is sufficient now.

Lord Melbury wrote:

Those figures are total number of cases.
Far more comprehensive data available daily for every country on Worldometers.info

That was assumption later after i posted.

Belgium and Luxembourg could be next on the list due to rises there.

Lord Melbury wrote:

Those figures are total number of cases.
Far more comprehensive data available daily for every country on Worldometers.info

Cheers for that link, much better info.

I was following the worldometers table avidly throughout March and into April. It all got a bit too depressing then so haven’t studied it that much since.

R Rate back to 1.03 in South West

According to Gov.uk R rate in SW is 0.7 to 1.0 putting us almost exactly the same as rest of uk who are all between 0.7 and 1.0. The worrying thing is that we were lower than rest of country now we've caught up.

Earwegoagain wrote:

According to Gov.uk R rate in SW is 0.7 to 1.0 putting us almost exactly the same as rest of uk who are all between 0.7 and 1.0. The worrying thing is that we were lower than rest of country now we've caught up.

According to one medical expert, we are two to three weeks away from a second wave here ?

The self isolation period is to be raised to ten days instead of seven.

VillageGreen wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

According to Gov.uk R rate in SW is 0.7 to 1.0 putting us almost exactly the same as rest of uk who are all between 0.7 and 1.0. The worrying thing is that we were lower than rest of country now we've caught up.

According to one medical expert, we are two to three weeks away from a second wave here ?

The self isolation period is to be raised to ten days instead of seven.

Regional figures can be misleading, my point is in the South West do we have spikes in small towns or is it Bristol and Burnham? It would be good to know, my fear is that they don't want to publish any more detail in case it affects the tourist industry down here.

Earwegoagain wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

According to Gov.uk R rate in SW is 0.7 to 1.0 putting us almost exactly the same as rest of uk who are all between 0.7 and 1.0. The worrying thing is that we were lower than rest of country now we've caught up.

According to one medical expert, we are two to three weeks away from a second wave here ?

The self isolation period is to be raised to ten days instead of seven.

Regional figures can be misleading, my point is in the South West do we have spikes in small towns or is it Bristol and Burnham? It would be good to know, my fear is that they don't want to publish any more detail in case it affects the tourist industry down here.

I did read last week that Brizzle have had one or two rises recently, and of course Burnham some weeks ago.

Oldham, Blackburn and Leicester still in a spot of bother. Oldham have introduced some measures to avoid a lockdown.

According  to the local rag, there have been small rises in Plymouth

Twas always going to happen once lock-down restrictions were eased. The problem is that certain sections of society seem to think the virus is done and dusted, and it's carry on as normal.

We'll be playing wack-a-mole with spikes for a good 18 months I reckon!

Not sure how this time Hancock, Johnson and the Rat Faced weasel Cummings are going to talk themselves out of the brutal ONS report today over excess deaths with England the worst in Europe bar none

Doubtless Cummings is compiling a jingoistic slogan to absolve this criminal Government of blame.

Hancock is just comedy Gold. Inept beyond even Johnson

I wonder if older members remember "Blott on the Landscape" from the BBC in 1986 with Simon Cadell playing "Dundridge" a Government minister responsible for "manoeuvres" so inept it was utterly comical.... Hancock is a spitting image of the character literally facially and in actions...Hapless

Completed my ipsos mori Covid test and survey this morning apart from nearly spewing when I swabbed my throat it was pretty easy. Hardest thing was making the box up was all a bit Blue Peter including sticky back plastic. It will be interesting to see whether they send me an antibody test as I ticked the box that says I think I've had it which was back in December.

lol Johnson so quick to get back to his boozing he forget the conference microphone was still on.

POI wrote:

Twas always going to happen once lock-down restrictions were eased. The problem is that certain sections of society seem to think the virus is done and dusted, and it's carry on as normal.

We'll be playing wack-a-mole with spikes for a good 18 months I reckon!

Leicester coming out of restrictions so I hear. Pubs and restaurants can open very-very soon.

A firm in Avonmouth have reported a load of cases. That is local-ish to us.

Cornwall have seen rises, albeit small ones. Plymouth have five and those that have caught it could well have caught it off someone who may be asymptomatic ?. That is the scary thing about this virus, people not knowing that they have it and spread randomly.

Four million up north got to change plans hastily. A few in the Muslim communities are suggesting that they are being picked on.

Just seen on Sky News that scientific advisors are not confident that the R- rate is below 1, even though it is has been stated that it is between 0.8 - 0.9.

According to one of the rags, infections have risen 63% in two weeks and BJ is warning he could role out what is happening in the north to the wider country.

VillageGreen wrote:

POI wrote:

Twas always going to happen once lock-down restrictions were eased. The problem is that certain sections of society seem to think the virus is done and dusted, and it's carry on as normal.

We'll be playing wack-a-mole with spikes for a good 18 months I reckon!

Leicester coming out of restrictions so I hear.

A firm in Avonmouth has reported a load of cases.

Four million up north got to change plans hastily. A few in the Muslim communities are suggesting that they are being picked on.

The truth of the matter is if you look at chart of where the spikes are happening ( not generalising like Greater Manchester) in local communities, then those spikes show a seriously disproportionate rise in Asian communities. It isn’t racist to state that. It is actual fact. It may be that these communities are more susceptible. It may be that they are ignoring the basic rules. If I were a betting man I’d say it’s probably a combo of both.

Czarcasm wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

POI wrote:

Twas always going to happen once lock-down restrictions were eased. The problem is that certain sections of society seem to think the virus is done and dusted, and it's carry on as normal.

We'll be playing wack-a-mole with spikes for a good 18 months I reckon!

Leicester coming out of restrictions so I hear.

A firm in Avonmouth has reported a load of cases.

Four million up north got to change plans hastily. A few in the Muslim communities are suggesting that they are being picked on.

The truth of the matter is if you look at chart of where the spikes are happening ( not generalising like Greater Manchester) in local communities, then those spikes show a seriously disproportionate rise in Asian communities. It isn’t racist to state that. It is actual fact. It may be that these communities are more susceptible. It may be that they are ignoring the basic rules. If I were a betting man I’d say it’s probably a combo of both.

Did a lot of work and training in High Wycombe years ago for dry rot treatment. Loads of the customers were Asians and they were a dry rot treaters dream, generally they lived in very crowded houses usually with three generations all together, always had steaming pots on the stove and never opened their windows.

Just seen elsewhere that Birmingham have had big rises in cases in the last 14 days.

Walsall also seeing rises, as is Swindon.

The three above on a list of ten.