The Mankover all action Thread.

That Oddball on the Farm really gets up Newells nose on yesterdays GOS thread
Keep it up Odders....

I've been quite impressed overall but anyone looking as a third party at photo 89 would ask was the architect pissed. The lopsided effect is more noticeable now. Surely some extended blockwork at the Devonport end could have been added with appropriate seats to balance it all out...Whats this seats missing about top left behind the "A" all about  ??

Piss stinking odders

harvetheslayer wrote:

That Oddball on the Farm really gets up Newells nose on yesterdays GOS thread
Keep it up Odders....

I've been quite impressed overall but anyone looking as a third party at photo 89 would ask was the architect pissed. The lopsided effect is more noticeable now. Surely some extended blockwork at the Devonport end could have been added with appropriate seats to balance it all out...Whats this seats missing about top left behind the "A" all about  ??

It isn’t seats needed at the Devonport to balance it out. If there was to be symmetry, the Grandstand at the Barn Park end would have needed to be extended.

The whole thing looks ludicrous.  More importantly the whole of the lower mayflower will effectively be unusable for much of the time due to the almost permanent rainfall we get through the autumn and winter months.  From recent GoS images, the 'roof' doesn't provide any cover at all for any of the seats in the lower tier.

Freathy wrote:

The whole thing looks ludicrous.  More importantly the whole of the lower mayflower will effectively be unusable for much of the time due to the almost permanent rainfall we get through the autumn and winter months.  From recent GoS images, the 'roof' doesn't provide any cover at all for any of the seats in the lower tier.

It looks what it is and what it is, is a lop sided lash up. Whoever decided to put the padded seats on the lower tier and open to the elements is stupid.

I see the temporary dug outs are currently being dismantled.

Czarcasm wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

That Oddball on the Farm really gets up Newells nose on yesterdays GOS thread
Keep it up Odders....

I've been quite impressed overall but anyone looking as a third party at photo 89 would ask was the architect pissed. The lopsided effect is more noticeable now. Surely some extended blockwork at the Devonport end could have been added with appropriate seats to balance it all out...Whats this seats missing about top left behind the "A" all about  ??

It isn’t seats needed at the Devonport to balance it out. If there was to be symmetry, the Grandstand at the Barn Park end would have needed to be extended.

Yes fair play....

Czarcasm wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

That Oddball on the Farm really gets up Newells nose on yesterdays GOS thread
Keep it up Odders....

I've been quite impressed overall but anyone looking as a third party at photo 89 would ask was the architect pissed. The lopsided effect is more noticeable now. Surely some extended blockwork at the Devonport end could have been added with appropriate seats to balance it all out...Whats this seats missing about top left behind the "A" all about  ??

It isn’t seats needed at the Devonport to balance it out. If there was to be symmetry, the Grandstand at the Barn Park end would have needed to be extended.

Yes, yes - this^ My OCD would be once and for all cured of such lopsided Argo fuckwittery with a full length GS.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Freathy wrote:

The whole thing looks ludicrous.  More importantly the whole of the lower mayflower will effectively be unusable for much of the time due to the almost permanent rainfall we get through the autumn and winter months.  From recent GoS images, the 'roof' doesn't provide any cover at all for any of the seats in the lower tier.

It looks what it is and  what it is, is a lop sided lash up. Whoever decided to put the padded seats on the lower tier and open to the elements is stupid.

I see the temporary dug outs are currently being dismantled.

Opportunity missed!!!!!!!

The old AstroTurf going

I feel for Hallett as this was too far into planning and timing for a proper attempt at a legacy - although on the face of it it looks ok, the first big game in the rain he might want to cover his eyes as it will come home to roost the basic problems. Even if the lower teir is half full the musical chairs in the rain will be comical as punters snuggle up to the plush seats on the bank rows. Just have to wait and see!!

ARGYLE season-ticket holders have less than five weeks before they will be able watch the Pilgrims from the plush new surroundings of the Mayflower Grandstand.

The eagerly anticipated official grand opening of the £8m-plus, 18-month major renovation of the magnificent main stand at Home Park will be on New Year’s Day, when Swindon Town visit for the first Sky Bet League Two match of 2020.

However, part of the Mayflower – enough to host all season-ticket holders that will be moving back to the stand after a year and a half away – will be opening for the first time on Saturday, December 14, when former manager Derek Adams brings his Morecambe team to face the Pilgrims.

Letters from Argyle Chief Executive Andrew Parkinson go out on Tuesday to Argyle supporters who held a season-ticket for the 2017-18 season, offering them the chance to relocate to the Mayflower Grandstand to a seat as close as possible to the one that they vacated.

Supporters are unlikely to be given an identical seat number to the one that they previously held – one of the first changes that fans will notice about the grandstand seat numbering is that it runs the opposite way to before: i.e. Seat No.1 is at the Devonport End of the grandstand.

A team of Argyle staff members is on hand and ready to assist supporters with their relocation queries, and the club has set up a dedicated email address – [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] – to help make the process as smooth as possible.

Supporters can also call 01752 907700 or visit the Home Park Ticket Office to discuss their seat migration.

AstroTurf should be finish by next Wednesday, There are plans to renew all the AstroTurf in the ground but money is the problem.

I see the solar panels in the centre spell P.A.F.C. looks ok tbh

Tgwu wrote:

AstroTurf should be finish by next Wednesday, There are plans to renew all the AstroTurf in the ground but money is the problem.

How can money be an issue for what must a very small outlay compared to the touted £8-£9 million for the mankover

harvetheslayer wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

AstroTurf should be finish by next Wednesday, There are plans to renew all the AstroTurf in the ground but money is the problem.

How can money be an issue for what must a very small outlay compared to the touted £8-£9 million for the mankover

Simple maths mate, budget £7m spend £8-9m equals overspend of £1-2m. Money don't grow on trees and the speed of the build should have tipped everybody off that cash flow has been an issue all the way though the build.

Must be getting mightily close to what a new build would have cost.

After all according to Brent, his primary reason for going down the makeover route was the risk of finding unexploded WWII ordinance that had magically penetrated the footings of the Mayflower 12 plus years after they were dropped (if any)

Bob Crow wrote:

Must be getting mightily close to what a new build would have cost.

Wonder if a large single teir stand all joined up would have been cheaper and more impressive?

Bandwagon wrote:

Bob Crow wrote:

Must be getting mightily close to what a new build would have cost.

Wonder if a large single teir stand all joined up would have been cheaper and more impressive?

When Exeter's cost £1.5 million, it wouldn't take someone even with a U in maths to work it out at £3 million for a basic single tier ths same size the length of the pitch (same length as Mayflower)
Add on the cost of the conference and hot fork facilities which are say £3 million and there you have your figures.
Brent initial figure was £5 million for the mankover so it's pretty obvious he was after saving a million plus knowing the farm dwellers will believe his pig shit about their being WWII ordinance under the Mayflower as being the reason for a money saving mankover opposed to an ever so slightly more expensive new build.

Bob Crow wrote:

Bandwagon wrote:

Bob Crow wrote:

Must be getting mightily close to what a new build would have cost.

Wonder if a large single teir stand all joined up would have been cheaper and more impressive?

When Exeter's cost £1.5 million, it wouldn't take someone even with a U in maths to work it out at £3 million for a basic single tier ths same size the length of the pitch (same length as Mayflower)
Add on the cost of the conference and hot fork facilities which are say £3 million and there you have your figures.
Brent initial figure was £5 million for the mankover so it's pretty obvious he was after saving a million plus knowing the farm dwellers will believe his pig shit about their being WWII ordinance under the Mayflower as being the reason for a money saving mankover opposed to an ever so slightly more expensive new build.

I'm sure that Brent's tin pot and undersized cow shed of a new stand was going to cost £12m whether that included all Brent's private retail units I don't know but knowing the man they probably did. Tbf I reckon a brand new stand would be north of £30m.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Bob Crow wrote:

Bandwagon wrote:

Bob Crow wrote:

Must be getting mightily close to what a new build would have cost.

Wonder if a large single teir stand all joined up would have been cheaper and more impressive?

When Exeter's cost £1.5 million, it wouldn't take someone even with a U in maths to work it out at £3 million for a basic single tier ths same size the length of the pitch (same length as Mayflower)
Add on the cost of the conference and hot fork facilities which are say £3 million and there you have your figures.
Brent initial figure was £5 million for the mankover so it's pretty obvious he was after saving a million plus knowing the farm dwellers will believe his pig shit about their being WWII ordinance under the Mayflower as being the reason for a money saving mankover opposed to an ever so slightly more expensive new build.

I'm sure that Brent's tin pot and undersized cow shed of a new stand was going to cost £12m whether that included all Brent's private retail units I don't know but knowing the man they probably did. Tbf I reckon a brand new stand would be north of £30m.

You really think that much?
Though not everyone's cup of tea, I can't have seen something simple such as extending the horseshoe round to enclose the whole stadium or even the same design without the corners would have cost close to that. Even allowing for the build of the conference facilities.
Would be very easy to incorporate boxes at the back of the stand too that could interlink with the conference facilities at ths rear.
My estimate was purely based on the £1.5 million cost of Exeter's main stand scaled up to run the same length as the Mayflower.

Exeter’s 1,600 capacity stand, extended full length would still only house about 2,500. I know our mankover is underwhelming, but that really would be setting our sights at rock bottom.

Czarcasm wrote:

Exeter’s 1,600 capacity stand, extended full length would still only house about 2,500. I know our mankover is underwhelming, but that really would be setting our sights at rock bottom.

The lower tier will end up mothballed 90% of the time except for in times that the average life long die hard Janner wants to dump his Liverpool or Man Poo shirt for the afternoon for the once in 10 odd years we fluke it into R3 of the cup.
We'll look even more shit when the tv cameras film our league games against the back drop of the empty lower tier.

the stand looks shit and no amount of PR and lies about this being a sign of ambition is going to convince me to think different.

The corners will never be built one certainly never will be given the fact the GT bar has to have a view of the pitch ffs.

Angry wrote:

the stand looks shit and no amount of PR and lies about this being a sign of ambition is going to convince me to think different.

The corners will never be built one certainly never will be given the fact the GT bar has to have a view of the pitch ffs.

And to think that there's still farm dwellers, dribbles, Brentophiles ect that think the corners will still be filled in, despite the GT's gloryhole in the corner. Unbelievable Jeff.