Plymouth Argyle vs. Oldham Athletic

Early days I know, but that is the kind of result yesterday that may prove to be the difference between automatics and playoffs come May.

Or on current form survival and relegation aka.

Sawyers been slow as feck for the past 4 seasons no idea how he's still here,

I think Sawyer is actually playing better this season and he looks fit and motivated, the issue is whether his overall game is good enough and tbf he is less prone to mistakes than the other two, but was a short sighted to give him yet another season.

Sawyer should have been gone pronto at the end of last season along with the rest of the defence.

We still don't know who actually did the retained list do we? Unless I missed it

Earwegoagain wrote:

Feck January think free agents we need someone now. It's not like we're a million miles a drift but it's frustrating that with a couple of solid defenders we'd piss the league.

Why is the answer to every problem signing yet another player?

I thought that coaches were supposed to do just that-coach players so that they are individually better or are more effective as a team?

I have my doubts that the Argyle coaching staff are able to do this-they seem to be following on from what they did at their previous club, building a big squad of largely average players, usually someone they've worked with before or are recommended by a mate. 

This season will tell if RL is indeed a good manager or just a one season wonder

Earwegoagain wrote:

Feck January think free agents we need someone now. It's not like we're a million miles a drift but it's frustrating that with a couple of solid defenders we'd piss the league.

Why is the answer to every problem signing yet another player?

I thought that coaches were supposed to do just that-coach players so that they are individually better or are more effective as a team?

I have my doubts that the Argyle coaching staff are able to do this-they seem to be following on from what they did at their previous club, building a big squad of largely average players, usually someone they've worked with before or are recommended by a mate. 

This season will tell if RL is indeed a good manager or just a one season wonder

in the case of caravan and wooton you can't polish turds

Ryan Lowe has told his Plymouth Argyle players they must ‘listen and learn very quickly’ or they will find themselves out of his team.

Lowe admitted he was frustrated by the Pilgrims’ performance in the 2-2 draw with Oldham Athletic at Home Park this afternoon.

It was a struggle from the start for Argyle, who were unable to find the fluency to their attacking play and went behind shortly before the half hour mark.

Defender Scott Wootton equalised with a header in the 31st minute and the Pilgrims seemed set for victory when striker Byron Moore netted in the 74th minute.

However, Oldham drew level at 2-2 with a header by defender David Wheater from a corner in the 77th minute.

The result leaves Argyle with a record of three wins, two draws and two defeats from their seven League Two gaes this season, and in eighth position in the table.

“As I have said, it’s a work in progress,” said Lowe. “There are certain areas that certain players can do better, and that’s what we will ask them to do.

“Is it taking time? Well, you can’t have too much time because they will find themselves out the team so they have got to listen and learn very quickly what we are doing.

“They have been outstanding for us from day one, I will always say that. They have been brilliant, with their attitude, the commitment and the application to everything we do.

“Are they taking that extra touch? Are they not finding that killer pass what we are asking them to do?

“Are they going back safe too much? Yeah, possibly at times. So there are a few things in there that we need to get better on.

“But the only way at getting better on that is on the training pitch and keep working them.”

He continued: “I think we looked a little bit leggy also, to be fair. I think all the games have caught up with us now.

“So the lads will have a couple of days’ recovery time and we will make sure we get them right back at it for next week (away to Port Vale on Saturday).”

Lowe was particularly disappointed that Argyle conceded an equaliser so soon after taking a 2-1 lead.

He said: “It was very frustrating, that’s what I don’t like.

I’m pulling my players over when we have scored to say ‘Do the right things, keep the ball now, move it forward, work on your patterns of play that we work on every day in training and if we have got the ball they can’t score.’

“Then we just do something stupid again and go through the middle of the pitch when we shouldn’t and then we give the ball away.

“The next thing you know the ball is up at the top end of the pitch, there is a corner and you lose your man.

“David Wheater has played for England. You can’t give him free headers in the box."

Lowe added: "We know we have to work for our goals and I don't think a lot of teams have to work for theirs against us at the moment."

Saturday was mixed. The train driver took a turn, and we were all put in taxis, which put a heavy dent in my pre-match drinking plans. I was underwhelmed by the team, and the new style of play. When we move the ball forwards, we scared the flip out of Oldham, and the second goal was corker. However, there's way too much fart-arsing about at the back, with some of our poorer footballers trying to play their way out, and getting caught in possession way too often. Both goals came about because of this, and a host of other chances too.

If we played in a different way, the current defensive lot might just be good enough for this league. As it stands, they are constantly having to defend while running back to their own goal, after giving the ball away in our half. Only very good defenders are comfortable doing that, and these are not very good defenders.

The Roam brewery taproom was very good. Dogs, bit of sunshine, friendly people and good beer - what's not to like?

Grovehill wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Feck January think free agents we need someone now. It's not like we're a million miles a drift but it's frustrating that with a couple of solid defenders we'd piss the league.

Why is the answer to every problem signing yet another player?

I thought that coaches were supposed to do just that-coach players so that they are individually better or are more effective as a team?

I have my doubts that the Argyle coaching staff are able to do this-they seem to be following on from what they did at their previous club, building a big squad of largely average players, usually someone they've worked with before or are recommended by a mate. 

This season will tell if RL is indeed a good manager or just a one season wonder

Come on Grovey the problem is more about retaining a defence that shipped eighty goals last season. Go back over my posts I've been bringing it up since before the end of last season. The defence is just not good enough. Using your logic we should still have a team with Stoney and Adams in it just coach them through their shiteness and old age.