EXETER RELEGATION THREAD UPDATED.

Just saw the goals again, Excretia looked even worse, never mind they tonked us 4-0 and that was season over for them

The game is being re-shown on the Sky Sports Football channel- Just kicked off.

Retained list:
Exeter City confirm that nine players have left the club

Dean Moxey, Craig Woodman, Aaron Martin, Lee Martin, Gary Warren, Brennan Dickenson, Lee Holmes, Jared Thompson and Jayden Richardson depart

Tgwu wrote:

Retained list:
Exeter City confirm that nine players have left the club

Dean Moxey, Craig Woodman, Aaron Martin, Lee Martin, Gary Warren, Brennan Dickenson, Lee Holmes, Jared Thompson and Jayden Richardson depart

no one there takes my fancy barr randall williams who has a year left now i think. If he wants to leave which im sure he will and as Exeter are letting backroom staff go too as they binned their goalie coach. they may want to cash in.

How old is Moxey? I seem to remember him playing for them for years.

He left for Derby 10 or so years ago, did the rounds of a few championship clubs before coming back couple of years ago.

The ‘feck me is he still there’ player for me is Craig Woodman. He must have signed on when God was a lad. He was deemed old slow and shit when Tisdale used to religiously pick him to the absolute bewilderment of their support,

Where’s Geezer these days, I seem to remember an open bet on league positions with Graiser which is being dodged. Perhaps his forfeit should be a day of being Graisers manservant .

Geezer Butler.

Thank you, thank you you’ve been a wonderful audience.

Very good Clodagh.

Exeter City set to utilise the loan market if finances can allow it "Unfortunately, even in the modern climate, the top clubs will expect money for their young players."

Exeter City manager Matt Taylor is keen to utilise the loan market again next season, but says ‘money talks’ when recruiting a player from another club.

The Grecians have enjoyed great success in taking young players from Championship clubs in recent seasons and their exposure to lower league football has stood them in great stead when returning to their parent club.


Kyle Edwards and Dara O’Shea are both in the West Bromwich Albion first team squad now, while 19-year-old Jayden Richardson returns to Nottingham Forest a better and stronger player after a year in Devon that saw him make 28 appearances and scoring twice.

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

their youth academy we could learn alot from as they dont seem to have problems finding kids and turning them into premiership standard raking in the profits along the way.

A good number of their yts players make the first team a good number of ours end up with truro or parkway.

Angry wrote:

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

their youth academy we could learn alot from as they dont seem to have problems finding kids and turning them into premiership standard raking in the profits along the way.

A good number of their yts players make the first team  a good number of ours end up with truro or parkway.

We used to have a very good acadamey in Stapes days. Brent decided to change the setup so we just sold footy courses to kids in the holidays. Let's hope that the new announced intake is a sign that Si will be taking youth development seriously.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

their youth academy we could learn alot from as they dont seem to have problems finding kids and turning them into premiership standard raking in the profits along the way.

A good number of their yts players make the first team  a good number of ours end up with truro or parkway.

We used to have a very good acadamey in Stapes days. Brent decided to change the setup so we just sold footy courses to kids in the holidays. Let's hope that the new announced intake is a sign that Si will be taking youth development seriously.

it wasn't that good back then at all bar a handful of youngsters who made the grade compared the several more that made a few appearances only to fail and end up in non league just like under brent. The only one that broke out of that mould after he didn't make it here was Issac Vassell no one else i can remember of the top of my head. I recall Tony Pulis absolutely tore the youth set up a new one in his programme notes on how bad it was under stapleton. Thankfully he made some changes in personnel but its still behind exeter in terms of recruitment and development.

Angry wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

their youth academy we could learn alot from as they dont seem to have problems finding kids and turning them into premiership standard raking in the profits along the way.

A good number of their yts players make the first team  a good number of ours end up with truro or parkway.

We used to have a very good acadamey in Stapes days. Brent decided to change the setup so we just sold footy courses to kids in the holidays. Let's hope that the new announced intake is a sign that Si will be taking youth development seriously.

it wasn't that good back then at all bar a handful of youngsters who made the grade compared the several more that made a few appearances only to fail and end up in non league just like under brent. The only one that broke out of that mould after he didn't make it here was Issac Vassell no  one else i can remember of the top of my head. I recall Tony Pulis absolutely tore the youth set up a new one in his programme notes on how bad it was under stapleton. Thankfully he made some changes in personnel but its still behind exeter in terms of recruitment and development.

We were way ahead of city at that time and bar Southampton were the only SW academy really. Joe Mason and Mcormick were a product of that setup I believe? City overtook us under Brent.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

their youth academy we could learn alot from as they dont seem to have problems finding kids and turning them into premiership standard raking in the profits along the way.

A good number of their yts players make the first team  a good number of ours end up with truro or parkway.

We used to have a very good acadamey in Stapes days. Brent decided to change the setup so we just sold footy courses to kids in the holidays. Let's hope that the new announced intake is a sign that Si will be taking youth development seriously.

it wasn't that good back then at all bar a handful of youngsters who made the grade compared the several more that made a few appearances only to fail and end up in non league just like under brent. The only one that broke out of that mould after he didn't make it here was Issac Vassell no  one else i can remember of the top of my head. I recall Tony Pulis absolutely tore the youth set up a new one in his programme notes on how bad it was under stapleton. Thankfully he made some changes in personnel but its still behind exeter in terms of recruitment and development.

We were way ahead of city at that time and bar Southampton were the only SW academy really. Joe Mason and Mcormick were a product of that setup I believe? City overtook us under Brent.

they were still turning out kids who were snapped up by prem teams even under the reign of staplewallet Where a few gems yes did breakthrough as they should have done regardless otherwise whats the point in having an academy for a professional club? Mason came along after the great revolution concerning the youth academy sparked by pulis where stuart gibson the head at the time got very upset about.
The ratio alone of kids here coming through the ranks and making their mark at Argyle and/or another pro club at a higher level compared to those who break through make a few appearances get hailed the second coming of this and that and then fail to evolve their games to be part of the latter, fall from grace and end up either out of football entirely or end up at non league clubs its not good at all.

the club need to either promote less, train harder or really look at their development program once they get their pro deals as this academy of ours is a lifeblood and an income source so it needs addressing especially recruitment which i believe they have no started looking at finally.

Angry wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:

There’ll get a sell percentage on Ollie Watkins if Brentford don’t go up that’ll see them right. Someone like Watford for 8 million. He’ll stink the league out but it will fund our erstwhile rivals another year of nearly winning promotion out of the 4th division.

their youth academy we could learn alot from as they dont seem to have problems finding kids and turning them into premiership standard raking in the profits along the way.

A good number of their yts players make the first team  a good number of ours end up with truro or parkway.

We used to have a very good acadamey in Stapes days. Brent decided to change the setup so we just sold footy courses to kids in the holidays. Let's hope that the new announced intake is a sign that Si will be taking youth development seriously.

it wasn't that good back then at all bar a handful of youngsters who made the grade compared the several more that made a few appearances only to fail and end up in non league just like under brent. The only one that broke out of that mould after he didn't make it here was Issac Vassell no  one else i can remember of the top of my head. I recall Tony Pulis absolutely tore the youth set up a new one in his programme notes on how bad it was under stapleton. Thankfully he made some changes in personnel but its still behind exeter in terms of recruitment and development.

We were way ahead of city at that time and bar Southampton were the only SW academy really. Joe Mason and Mcormick were a product of that setup I believe? City overtook us under Brent.

they were still turning out kids who were snapped up by prem teams even under the reign of staplewallet Where a few gems yes did breakthrough as they should have done regardless otherwise whats the point in having an academy for a professional club? Mason came along after the great revolution concerning the youth academy sparked by pulis where stuart gibson the head at the time got very upset about.
The ratio alone of kids here coming through the ranks and making their mark at Argyle and/or another pro club at a higher level  compared to those who break through make a few appearances get hailed the second coming of this and that and then fail to evolve their games to be part of the latter, fall from grace and end up either out of football entirely or end up at non league clubs its not good at all.

the club need to either promote less, train harder or really look at their development program once they get their pro deals as this academy of ours is a lifeblood and an income source so it needs addressing especially recruitment which i believe they have no started looking at finally.

I think we can both agree Argyle need to do better.

Watching the playoff games, Exeter look to have another decent player in Archie Collins, and Sparkes the LB looked good as well. But for all the money they made on Grimes, Watkins, Ampadu, Stockley (I know he wasn't their youth product, but they made a good profit on him) and a CB who went to Preston, they seem to do little to improve their playing side. Where's all the money gone? In that stand they bought from Barnet? Sid James park is still non-league standard so are their directors/ management creaming decent bonuses?

Lowe obviously recognised our youth set up was poor, so shipped out Hodges and a couple of others and brought in Dewsnip and Phil Stokes. We might start seeing results from this in 3 years?

Chemical Ali wrote:

Watching the playoff games, Exeter look to have another decent player in Archie Collins, and Sparkes the LB looked good as well. But for all the money they made on Grimes, Watkins, Ampadu, Stockley (I know he wasn't their youth product, but they made a good profit on him) and a CB who went to Preston, they seem to do little to improve their playing side. Where's all the money gone? In that stand they bought from Barnet? Sid James park is still non-league standard so are their directors/ management creaming decent bonuses?

Lowe obviously recognised our youth set up was poor, so shipped out Hodges and a couple of others and brought in Dewsnip and Phil Stokes. We might start seeing results from this in 3 years?

this is when having an exeter fan or two on here would help answer these lol   from what i gather they pay bills and reinvest it back into the academy as they have no income streams other than sponsorships and fans coughing up (sounds familiar)

that stadium of theirs surely the time has to come when they realise they have to move out and build a new one which would be cheaper and probably more rewarding income wise than doing up that stadium that they cant do anything else with beyond what they have done already given its location

i see that randall Williams is off.

the club should pull out all the stops to bag him if they can feck mcfadzean.

Exeter City could be set for a cash windfall in the coming days, if Brentford are victorious. £500,000

Tgwu wrote:

Exeter City could be set for a cash windfall in the coming days, if Brentford are victorious. £500,000

There academy really is the only income source they have and when they get potential payoffs like this it makes it all worthwhile.

Angry wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Exeter City could be set for a cash windfall in the coming days, if Brentford are victorious. £500,000

There academy really is the only income source they have and when they get potential payoffs like this it makes it all worthwhile.

It does make you wonder how some clubs are ever going to survive. Hallett has just put in £3.5m to keep us ticking over. How the fcuk do teams that don’t have that investment carry on?

Czarcasm wrote:

Angry wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Exeter City could be set for a cash windfall in the coming days, if Brentford are victorious. £500,000

There academy really is the only income source they have and when they get potential payoffs like this it makes it all worthwhile.

It does make you wonder how some clubs are ever going to survive. Hallett has just put in £3.5m to keep us ticking over. How the fcuk do teams that don’t have that investment carry on?

city is a mystery in terms of income as sponsors and fans bring in the bulk along with future pay day on potential deals involving their ex academy players but i dont think their fans care about going anywhere but league two as no club with ambitions would ever want to stay at sid james park with its full capacity being one of our lowest drawing games.

I think the clock is ticking if its not about to go off already that they are going to have to look at bringing in outsider investors as we see with portsmouth owning a club is one thing running it with no money is another.

Czarcasm wrote:

Angry wrote:

Tgwu wrote:

Exeter City could be set for a cash windfall in the coming days, if Brentford are victorious. £500,000

There academy really is the only income source they have and when they get potential payoffs like this it makes it all worthwhile.

It does make you wonder how some clubs are ever going to survive. Hallett has just put in £3.5m to keep us ticking over. How the fcuk do teams that don’t have that investment carry on?

There's three scenarios that would explain why Si chucked in another £3.5m.
1) we are losing between £1m and £2m a year (which with our crowds seems quite unbelievable).
2) under Brent we had quite frankly massive debts for a club our size and that is what was needed to bring the balance sheet level.
3) the mankover went over budget by that amount.

I'm torn between two and three, maybe it's a mix of the two? I'd love to hear from Si the real Brent takeover story, he's been very careful not to mention it too much other than to thank Brent for his stewardship but I reckon there's a good book there one day.

I think City are hoping Brentford go up as they get a windfall from the Watkins deal. They also have a decent sell on % for him also.