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Grovehill wrote:

It's going to be a long, quiet coach trip back for the players. Most of them will pass the time by texting their agent "get me a move"

Only if the agent knows ASDA are recruiting will any of those Donkeys get a move!

Adams must know he's gone refusing to speak to the Press and breaking EFL Rules....

Will he be gone this time tomorrow.......

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lol that trapdoor was somewhat smaller where I nicked it from....

I think this might be the most embarrassing and woeful season/relegation in Argyle's history. Perhaps Adams would like to slap that on his CV alongside the 'over success' of his previous 3 seasons.

Poor budget? Yes. Relegation budget? Unlikely. We needed to win 1, maybe 2 games out of 10 and look like failing. That's unforgivable and the buck stops with the manager.

He should be sacked tonight. It will make no difference to the final game and might just give the squad a boost. It would also mean a new manager can be brought in soonest to attempt to sort out the shit - whether we're in League 1 or 2.

Despite our humiliating record in the last couple of months, we go into the last game needing to beat an equally shocking team and hoping Sunderland can get a point at Southend, which should happen. That's far more than we deserve.

Innocent Egbunike wrote:

I think this might be the most embarrassing and woeful season/relegation in Argyle's history. Perhaps Adams would like to slap that on his CV alongside the 'over success' of his previous 3 seasons.

Poor budget? Yes. Relegation budget? Unlikely. We needed to win 1, maybe 2 games out of 10 and look like failing. That's unforgivable and the buck stops with the manager.

He should be sacked tonight. It will make no difference to the final game and might just give the squad a boost. It would also mean a new manager can be brought in soonest to attempt to sort out the shit - whether we're in League 1 or 2.

Despite our humiliating record in the last couple of months, we go into the last game needing to beat an equally shocking team and hoping Sunderland can get a point at Southend, which should happen. That's far more than we deserve.

He should have gone last week to give the team a boost

Unlikely, but Exeter could still go up...

Derek Adams refused to carry out any post-match interviews following the 5-1 drubbing by Accrington Stanley at the Wham Stadium.

No member of the Pilgrims' management staff or players were made available to the media, which is in breach of EFL regulations.

Plymouth Live football editor Chris Errington and other reporters from organisations such as BBC Radio Devon and Sky Sports had waited until shortly before 5.30pm to question Adams.

That was when they were informed by Rick Cowdery, Argyle's head of communications, that there would be no interviews, which also applied to the club's own media staff.

Plymouth Live have not been able to talk to Adams, outside of his post-match Press conferences, over recent weeks.

Adams took that decision because he was unhappy with our coverage of Argyle, although players have still been made available.

Argyle dropped into the League One relegation zone after their hammering by Accrington.

There were so many questions to ask of Derek Adams after Plymouth Argyle’s 5-1 thrashing by Accrington Stanley at the Wham Stadium.

The Pilgrims have dropped into the League One relegation zone and their fate is now out of their own control.

Adams, his backroom staff and players all received a very rough ride from some furious Argyle fans as they left the pitch after the final whistle.

The manager was a particular target for those supporters, who had stood on an open terrace in heavy rain all afternoon and seen their side crumble before their own eyes.

It will have been a very hurtful experience for Adams, who no-one can dispute has worked so hard since becoming manager in 2015 and has achieved success on a tight budget.

However, all Argyle supporters, both those who travelled to Lancashire and those who did not, deserved to at least hear what he had to say.

Adams decided, in what I would consider a public relations own goal for the club, not to carry out any post-match media interviews.

That was not just with Plymouth Live, but also BBC Radio Devon and Sky Sports.

It meant Adams could not be asked about why his team had played so poorly in such an important match.

He could also not be questioned on why Freddie Ladapo and Ruben Lameiras, Argyle’s top two scorers this season, started the game on the substitutes’ bench.

Presumably, it was because of Ladapo was not fully fit after an injury and that the muddy pitch at the Wham Stadium would not have suited Lameiras.

But that is only supposition on my part. It was certainly a hot topic for debate among the Green Army, both before and after the match.

Adams could not be asked why he went with midfielder Jamie Ness in the starting line-up in favour of Lameiras, or what the injury was that ruled out goalkeeper Kyle Letheren.

The shot-stopper did not even make the trip to Lancashire, with first-year professional on the bench as cover for Matt Macey.

The media blackout from Adams meant he could not be questioned about how Argyle conceded two more goals after trailing 3-0 at half-time.

Or how he felt about the fans’ angry reaction at full-time, or how much responsibility he felt for the Pilgrims’ very worrying league position with one match to play.

Of course, it would not have been easy for Adams to have to face the media after such a dreadful performance.

He must have been fuming with his players, but it is part and parcel of his job, even if it is one aspect of it he does not enjoy.

Instead, by refusing to talk to the media – and, by extension, to the fans – he created unnecessary controversy just at a time when Argyle need all the support they can get.

Year after year, one year contracts for average players. There's about 15 due to be out of work next week. I blame that for underperformance more than anything else. Add a few loan players into the mix, who gives a s**t. Wembley was a classic example , Adams out please.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

It's going to be a long, quiet coach trip back for the players. Most of them will pass the time by texting their agent "get me a move"

Only if the agent knows ASDA are recruiting will any of those Donkeys get a move!

Perhaps hoping to join the Johnson revolution at Plainmoor

Thinking about it, could we do a swap deal? The first team squad in exchange for Gary J ?  TUFC would probably want cash as well LOL

Grovehill wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

It's going to be a long, quiet coach trip back for the players. Most of them will pass the time by texting their agent "get me a move"

Only if the agent knows ASDA are recruiting will any of those Donkeys get a move!

Perhaps hoping to join the Johnson revolution at Plainmoor

Thinking about it, could we do a swap deal? The first team squad in exchange for Gary J ?  TUFC would probably want cash as well LOL

I have taken sympathy to the Turks plight and even attented matches but it seems on their forums they are jizzing their pants at our demise.

Wont never get any kindness from me again.

Pitch looked awful, seems our players were like weedy kids that don't like the rain.

PatDunne wrote:

Unlikely, but Exeter could still go up...

That would be the icing on the cake for this season if that happened.

Adams must be given the boot this week if we stand any chance. WTF is he doing not starting Lamerias ffs
The fact we are playing Scunthorpe who will be fired up for this fame as they fight for their lives will not make live easy fr us nor does it if walsall and wimbledon do well.

Big summer coming up and boy have the board got to get their priorities right and they can begin with appointing the right manager to replace adams whether we stay up or not he cant stay.

lol

Anyone fancy meeting the team bus tonight? Nothing nasty nothing abusive just to make sure they know how we feel?

Aware it’s late but just a suggestion.

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Our season starts now COYG

If I wasn’t on my sunbed in the Med, I’d be apoplectic with fuckin rage. Thankfully, I’ll still be here next week and won’t have to endure that shitstorm.

Despite all talk about budget etc. this total capitulation from top half a few weeks ago, to bottom four and nailed on for division four.... that’s Adams work. Geddon Del you utter wanker.

Derek, you’re a fuckin cnut, and no mistake.

And Hallett, you can fuckin poke for my season ticket renewal if Adams is still here in a fortnight.

Taken a walk to my local to see if this is just a bad dream and you can drink the pain of being an argyle fan away

Czarcasm wrote:

And Hallett, you can fuckin poke for my season ticket renewal if Adams is still here in a fortnight.

Czar and thats why he's a dead man walking. Season ticket sales even a month ago could have been expected to be 20% down but retaining Adams now to a money man like Hallett would be criminal negligence to see 40% down.
Nope hes gone either tomorrow morning or monday week

Holloway is my man if he can be tempted.

harvetheslayer wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

And Hallett, you can fuckin poke for my season ticket renewal if Adams is still here in a fortnight.

Czar and thats why he's a dead man walking. Season ticket sales even a month ago could have been expected to be 20% down but retaining Adams now to a money man like Hallett would be criminal negligence to see 40% down.
Nope hes gone either tomorrow morning or monday week

Holloway is my man if he can be tempted.

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He is now a rugby coach - apparently.

11 hours ago
BillWein


It might have been better if he refused to talk to his players. They might have done better.

Series of screenshots on twitter that look like converstations between fans and Hallett.
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harvetheslayer wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

And Hallett, you can fuckin poke for my season ticket renewal if Adams is still here in a fortnight.

Czar and thats why he's a dead man walking. Season ticket sales even a month ago could have been expected to be 20% down but retaining Adams now to a money man like Hallett would be criminal negligence to see 40% down.
Nope hes gone either tomorrow morning or monday week

Holloway is my man if he can be tempted.

Yep a plunge in season ticket sales is certain if Adams remains, that has sealed his fate with the money boyz, he's a dead man walking as far as the managers job goes.

And you wonder why the Argyle twitter is bollocks, guys deluded, You can block me if you like as Well p Rick.

Rick Cowdery

@Only1Argyle

Accrington Stanley 5
Kee pen 20, McConville 36, 43, 51, Armstrong 66

Argyle 1
Rodgers og 90

WITH one match of the Sky Bet League One season to go, we know at least two things about Argyle’s destiny: it is still to be decided, and it is no longer entirely in their own hands.

Defeat at the Wham Stadium, where they were initially undone by two set-piece strikes – a penalty by Billy Kee and a deflected free-kick from Sean McConville – leaves them inside the bottom four relegation places going into next Saturday’s home game with Scunthorpe United, who also need to win that contest to have a chance of surviving the drop.

Because of Argyle’s large negative goal-difference, realistically, three other clubs remain in the dogfight to avoid the drop – AFC Wimbleon, Southend and Walsall – and only two can extricate themselves from it. There are many permutations remaining but Argyle will have to look after themselves on May 4 and hope their rivals at the wrong end of the table do them a favour.

The Pilgrims arrived at the Wham Stadium in good heart but troubled by injuries, including to some in the starting 11 who have been playing through the pain barrier for some time.

The score, which did nothing for the Pilgrims’ goal-difference, was somewhat freakish, based on the balance of play, but Accrington made the most of their breaks for the first two goals to kick on. McConville added two more sweet counter-attack goals, either side of half-time, to complete his hat-trick, and Luke Armstrong joined the party midway through the second half.

An injury-time own goal for the Pilgrims by Harvey Rodgers was the absolute definition of ‘meaningless consolation.'

Argyle had made two changes to their starting 11 from the side that lost 3-0 to Barnsley at Home Park on Easter Monday, with Matt Macey and Jamie Ness returning to the starting 11.

Goalkeeper Macey, who made his EFL debut during a four-game loan spell at Accrington in 2015, replaced the injured Kyle Letheren, with first-year professional Mike Cooper coming on to the bench.

Ness took over from Ruben Lameiras in midfield, with the boggy state of the Wham Stadium pitch almost certainly a contributory factor in the selection.

Striker Freddie Ladapo, who had trained only lightly in the days leading up to the game, returned from injury as substitute, leaving Ryan Taylor as the Pilgrims’ main option up front.

Accrington, whose surprise 2-1 win at Doncaster the previous Tuesday had all but guaranteed League One safety, made one change, up front, where Armstrong replaced one of the goalscorers at the Keepmoat, Paul Smyth.

Veteran Tony Warner, goalkeeping coach at the Wham Stadium these days, was again named as replacement custodian.

Argyle, with Fox withdrawn behind a four-man midfield, elected to play up the slope and against the wind in the first half and it soon became clear this was not a day for too much football of finesse.

There may have been nerves on the terraces and back home in the Westcountry but, on the pitch, Argyle settled to their task and created the first chance of note when Ness teased his way to the bye-line and crossed for Yann Songo’o to head just over.

Ness enjoyed a storming start to the game, rampaging forward in a manner redolent of David Friio in his pomp, and came close to making a breakthrough when he seized on Taylor’s flick-on to drive into the box, brush off a challenge and fire off a shot that forced a save out of goalkeeper Jonny Maxted.

Accrington had offered no threat when they were handed an opportunity to take the lead after former Argyle trialist Jordan Clark was a fraction of a second quicker than Ness to a ball played into the penalty area. After the inevitable collision, referee Craig Hicks awarded a penalty that Kee converted.

The concession seemed to knock Argyle out of their stride, for they were certainly and suddenly on the back foot as Accrington, aided by the considerable wind at their backs, worth an extra 10-20 yards, sought a second.

Argyle almost got back into it after half an hour, with Songo’o and Graham Carey both sending in shots on Maxted’s goal that cleared the bar.

Immediately, Accrington extended their lead in not dissimilar circumstances. Gary Sawyer was penalised for a foul on McConville on the edge of the penalty area after being beaten to the ball by a fraction of a second. McConville’s free-kick took a massive deflection off the defensive wall, wrong-footing the unlucky Macey.

Accrington’s third arrived just before half-time, and a lovely goal it was, too, as they took advantage of Argyle pushing up to sweep quickly from their defensive end to Argyle’s penalty area, with McConville finishing off the move.

The Pilgrims showed enough heart to create an opportunity before half-time, with Carey crossing to the far-post, where Oscar Threlkeld’s header was blocked on its way to goal.

Needing to chase the game and then some, Argyle introduced Lameiras and Ladapo at half-time, withdrawing David Fox and Ness, and immediately went on the attack. After winning a corner, Carey’s delivery found Songo’o at the far post for an on-target header that Maxted pouched.

Just like the first half, Argyle had plenty of the ball and looked threatening, only to be undone the first time that Accrington ventured forward, McConville, making the most of the space afforded him, sent in a perfect curled shot past Macey for a third goal in 14 minutes.

Still the Pilgrims did not lie down and Carey came close to mimicking McConville’s hat-trick goal with a shot that drifted just wide of the post. Meanwhile, at the back, there was no little passion shown as bodies went on the line to keep Accrington at arm’s length.

The strange pattern of the match continued, with Argyle dominating possession and field-placing but being picked off ruthlessly by the home side, such as when Armstrong added a fifth midway through the second half.

Like Weebles, Argyle bounced up, and Ryan Edwards saw his powerful downward header cleared off the goal-line; Carey saw a free-kick saved by Maxted; and Ladapo had a shot deflected off target.

Then, in injury-time, something – small, and inconsequential – to celebrate for the 800-plus Green Army at the Wham Stadium, an own goal by substitute Rodgers.

Accrington Stanley (4-4-2): 1 Jonny Maxted; 4 Janoi Donacien (12 Danny Williams 80), 15 Ross Sykes (18 Harvey Rodgers half-time), 3 Mark Hughes, 5 Ben Richards-Everton; 7 Jordan Clark, 26 Daniel Barlaser, 28 Seamus Conneely (capt), 11 Sean McConville; 39 Luke Armstrong, 29 Billy Kee (38 Paul Smyth 79). Substitutes (not used): 6 Liam Nolan, 9 Offrande Zanzala, 17 Erico Sousa, 34 Tony Warner (gk).

Booked:

Argyle (4-1-4-1): 1 Matt Macey; 26 Oscar Threlkeld, 5 Ryan Edwards, 20 Lloyd Jones, 3 Gary Sawyer (capt); 8 David Fox (19 Freddie Ladapo, half-time); 7 Antoni Sarcevic, 4 Yann Songo’o, 6 Jamie Ness (11 Ruben Lameiras half-time), 10 Graham Carey; 9 Ryan Taylor (29 Alex Fletcher 85). Substitutes (not used): 14 Niall Canavan, 13 Paul Anderson, 23 Ashley Smith-Brown, 31 Mike Cooper (gk).

Booked:

Referee: Craig Hicks.

Attendance: 3,134 (825 away).