Opening a can of worms, ( Hallett on Argyle finances)

harvetheslayer wrote:

Rickler wrote:

I'm not trying it on with anyone.  tbh..  I couldn't really give a feck what some of you think.

Yes and thats why this site as lost so many posters who are refusing to return until you're gone. Try and grasp that. People talk about Nool but frankly you're not far behind with your utterly deliberate trolling.

A hint.  Since you are especially stupid...

Rickler wrote:

 tbh..  I couldn't really give a feck what some of you think.

That bit applies to you, and most of your friends.

Coxside_Green wrote:

I don't want to be BFF's, getting to the top table has seriously never interested me.  All I want is a team on the pitch commensurate with attendances.  If we can't do that because Fleetwood, Scunthorpe etc all have wealthy owners then we best up our game and seek our own wealthy owner/investor.  They're obviously out there.

Yesterday I was the most dejected/frustrated/sickened/angry that I've walked away from the ground in years. Not sure that's relevant to this thread but hey-ho.

As far as investment goes, there'll always be a stumbling block. The problem - and it's an age-old decades long problem - is that those in the hot seat have never been willing to put the club before their own interests. There would need to be a clear concerted and targeted effort to go out and market the club to prospective investors if real investment were ever to seriously be sought. The issue has always been those in power wanting to keep their slice of the pie. The fact pissy-arsed clubs with attendances 50% or more below us are out there being bankrolled means that prospective investment is there - but only if the will is there to aggressively seek it.

Stapleton waited until things were desperate, and then simply went all-in on the wrong (Japanese) horse. Brent, having picked up the club for a song was never ever going to dilute his shareholding while there was still the faintest chance of a MK1 mankover killing to be made. He's now made his financial return on his shares sale to SH. But being the snake he is, he's still hanging around like a bad smell hoping his 30% can yield yet more personal profit - but only on the back of someone elses investment!

A bit like Coxside, I do find the 'community' stuff Hallett goes on about to be frustrating. Although I'm not entirely sure what 'community' means? Investing big in the Academy is without doubt a tick in the box and he's said in the past that that is an area that he's passionate about.

Given that SH now has 6-7 million tied up in the club he's obviously here for a while. But I live in hope that the circles he moves in will at some point lead to real tangible investment that enables us to compete equally with some of the dogshit nothing clubs who are bankrolled.

Rickler wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Rickler wrote:

I'm not trying it on with anyone.  tbh..  I couldn't really give a feck what some of you think.

Yes and thats why this site as lost so many posters who are refusing to return until you're gone. Try and grasp that. People talk about Nool but frankly you're not far behind with your utterly deliberate trolling.

A hint.  Since you are especially stupid...

Rickler wrote:

 tbh..  I couldn't really give a feck what some of you think.

That bit applies to you, and most of your friends.

There may be a few who don't post here because of Ricks but I guarantee there's many more who stopped posting here anymore because of clowns like Bob Crow and co.

Tis a broad church here, but constant trolling with accusations of constant trolling are tedious.

I personally doubt the income from the stand and conference facilities will even cover the mortgage repayments. I hope I am wrong.

harvetheslayer wrote:

Rickler wrote:

I'm not trying it on with anyone.  tbh..  I couldn't really give a feck what some of you think.

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Yes and thats why this site has lost so many posters who are refusing to return until you're gone. Try and grasp that. People talk about Nool but frankly you're not far behind with your utterly deliberate trolling.

i dont believe that for one moment.

seadog wrote:

Tis a broad church here, but constant trolling with accusations of constant trolling are  tedious.

I personally doubt the income from the stand and conference facilities will even cover the mortgage repayments. I hope I am wrong.

I think this is going to end up being wrong even if it appears to be right to start with.

The mortgage size and interest rate have been set in advance so the cost is set. At the same time inflation is not set and so ticket prices, the cost of a beer, how much we pay for a plate of food etc will all increase so even if we start off losing money, which might not happen anyway, we won't be losing it for long and once we move into profit there'll be no turning back.

Hallet is a massive upgrade on thirty % that is true but if you cant compete in the third division on gates of ten thousand with the extra money that goes with that level of support then what is the point of having a club ?
All we ask of Hallet is he gives the fans some sort of hope that argo wont be forever shit signing ten job seekers every summer because that sort of Village thinking is not sustainable for very long, ten thousnd fans will soon become five thousand Si, as the comunity get sick of it.

Angry wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:

i meet hallett today :O spoke to him for a few minutes aswell.

Didnt have breakfast with him which im annoyed about to be honest but seemed a nice chap none the less who unlike the reluctant one he actually likes football and argyle.

You met him ? or is that a quote from elsewhere?

i met him he was walking around the stands before kick off and stop by me and a few others and had a chat.

Sorry was a long day yesterday,

That assessment does sound promising, keep hearing similar as well.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Hallet is a massive upgrade on thirty % that is true but if you cant compete in the third division on gates of ten thousand with the extra money that goes with that level of support then what is the point of having a club ?
All we ask of Hallet is he gives the fans some sort of hope that argo wont be forever shit signing ten job seekers every summer because that sort of Village thinking is not sustainable for very long, ten thousnd fans will soon become five thousand Si, as the comunity get sick of it.

Agreed.

Although Mr H is far from perfect at least we have seen stuff happening which is more then what we can say about the squatter.

Mr Newell is still leg shagging and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the pioneers although of course I cant confirm or deny.

Punchdrunk wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Hallet is a massive upgrade on thirty % that is true but if you cant compete in the third division on gates of ten thousand with the extra money that goes with that level of support then what is the point of having a club ?
All we ask of Hallet is he gives the fans some sort of hope that argo wont be forever shit signing ten job seekers every summer because that sort of Village thinking is not sustainable for very long, ten thousnd fans will soon become five thousand Si, as the comunity get sick of it.

Agreed.

Although Mr H is far from perfect at least we have seen stuff happening which is more then what we can say about the squatter.

Mr Newell is still leg shagging and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the pioneers although of course I cant confirm or deny.

The Cornish Pie and Ear Janner, will be obtaining two Pand E's,one paid for by unknown sponsers so his devoted flock get the chance of the Prawn Sandwich experience! He is busy at the mo justifying how a bloke got who beaten up in front of his wife daughter and son,was the guilty party not the bunch of pricks who attacked the guy!Nool got a mysterious txt message from a member of the silent majority claiming the old Rovers fan attacked the boy scout argo fans who were just going about community business! Good to see you back posting Bhey!

I will continue to post my friend.

The crack-potted idea from mouldy that I was engaged in a conspiracy is ridiculous.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Graiser wrote:

I’m sure he might consider it if there were buyers jostling to buy us, haven’t heard of any, have you ?

Twelve thousand fans to watch third division relegation battlers who have had no investment on the pitch where it counts? i'm sure there would be people interested, the fans deserve better than Hallet and Brent.

Well where are they then ?

harvetheslayer wrote:

Graiser wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Graiser wrote:

I’m sure he might consider it if there were buyers jostling to buy us, haven’t heard of any, have you ?

Inaccurate as usual Graiser, Bent by his very own admission after 5 years in the hot seat admitted he received enquiries on average once a month for a club that was not up for sale and not marketed as such

I wonder where we be if indeed proper marketing was done. The Qatari's alone are queuing up to own

clubs

I’m wrong! That’s a bit rich coming from you of all people. I’m not fussed what happened 5 years ago, it’s the present and future that concerns me
So the Qataris are queuing up are they ? Well I’ve been called deluded but hell your Mr Deluded
You appear to be in the know Give the Sheikh a ring a remind him, you know just in case he forgot

lol chap I choose the first 5 years because Brent indicated he got an enquiry a month on average. He's probably had further enquiries since doubtless. So your claim of who wants the club and you dont see people knocking on the doors was indeed completely wrong.
Now if the club was marketed I have little doubt there would be a sight more than 1 enquiry a month ongoing. Where did I say that the Qatari's were queuing up to buy Argyle....you'll end up like Rickler bitter and despondant ole boy if you dont bother to read posts before jabbing at the keyboard

Your wriggling, we’re debating Argyle, you mention the Qatari’s but now you say not in relation to buying Argyle, so why mention them at all .
You also mention he’s PROBABLY had others knocking on his door, pure guesswork, you know nothing, your just another poster making it up as you go along because because it suits the “ let’s knock everything fecking thing about Argyle”

harvetheslayer wrote:

Rickler wrote:

I'm not trying it on with anyone.  tbh..  I couldn't really give a feck what some of you think.

.

Yes and thats why this site has lost so many posters who are refusing to return until you're gone. Try and grasp that. People talk about Nool but frankly you're not far behind with your utterly deliberate trolling.

I thought Rickler posts was a well thought out opinion with some equally well thought out responses until you pop along with your predictable replies, maybe those that are currently flouncing are maybe a bit irritated by you.

Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:

i meet hallett today :O spoke to him for a few minutes aswell.

Didnt have breakfast with him which im annoyed about to be honest but seemed a nice chap none the less who unlike the reluctant one he actually likes football and argyle.

You met him ? or is that a quote from elsewhere?

i met him he was walking around the stands before kick off and stop by me and a few others and had a chat.

Sorry was a long day yesterday,

That assessment does sound promising, keep hearing similar as well.

I saw and heard him 3 rows in front of me in block 11 having quite a long chat with a disabled person and his carer, seems to me he’s more of a people person than Brent could ever aspire to be.
I think I’d sooner assess him at the end of next season and give him a fair chance to do his stuff.

Hallett has to show he means business very very soon.......

After the fuckwittery with Brent. I think a fair old few fans are desperate for positivety, ambition, vision, forward thinking - to move on to something, 'anything' better. I believe SH's heart and intent is in the right place, but, is unable to deliver it fast enough to appease the pissed-off fan-base. I think he eventually will.

I'm not saying I haven't got my concerns re players budget etc, and to say I'm disappointed in the current mankover is somewhat of an understatement, but, along with thousands of other fans, I guess I'm a beaten man, conditioned and doomed to expect mediocrity and lower league football for ever, but, FFS, let's not forget Brent's cuntanology compared to how we've moved on in the first few months since SH has been in the captains chair.

P.O.I wrote:

After the fuckwittery with Brent. I think a fair old few fans are desperate for positivety, ambition, vision, forward thinking - to move on to something, 'anything' better. I believe SH's heart and intent is in the right place, but, is unable to deliver it fast enough to appease the pissed-off fan-base. I think he eventually will.

I'm not saying I haven't got my concerns re players budget etc, and to say I'm disappointed in the current mankover is somewhat of an understatement, but, along with thousands of other fans, I guess I'm a beaten man, conditioned and doomed to expect mediocrity and lower league football for ever, but, FFS, let's not forget Brent's cuntanology compared to how we've moved on in the first few months since SH has been in the captains chair.

This exactly,
Couldn't put it any better,

Would note myself though would be interesting to see what he could do without mr 30% in the board room,

Graiser wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:

i meet hallett today :O spoke to him for a few minutes aswell.

Didnt have breakfast with him which im annoyed about to be honest but seemed a nice chap none the less who unlike the reluctant one he actually likes football and argyle.

You met him ? or is that a quote from elsewhere?

i met him he was walking around the stands before kick off and stop by me and a few others and had a chat.

Sorry was a long day yesterday,

That assessment does sound promising, keep hearing similar as well.

I saw and heard him 3 rows in front of me in block 11 having quite a long chat with a disabled person and his carer, seems to me he’s more of a people person than Brent could ever aspire to be.
I think I’d sooner assess him at the end of next season and give him a fair chance to do his stuff.

Not assessing/judging him at all, but with 7 years of Brent, you have to be a bit sceptical that's all,