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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 10:48 am

harvetheslayer wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
Trouble is, that if the miracle escape is performed, the end of season pay/contract talks will likely lead to the departure of key players and more poundshop rebuilding......... and repeat.

Exactly...

That might well be true but i’m prepared to give Hallett a pass for the moment and see what happens.

Whatever your take on the rebuild, it’s imperative we stay in League Onento take full advantage of it - assuming it gets finished, of course.

Avoiding relegation is all that matters right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 11:03 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Really like Innocent's precis. It sounds very like the impression I got from commentary which is very rare.

This may sound daft but ASB at RB puts him in is best position and Sawyer while no world beater is well steady at LB.

If we can get our CBs sorted we'll be fine.

Cheers SFD. Smith-Brown played really well and is clearly growing in confidence. Does seem to be genuinely two-footed.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 11:09 am

Stats don't always tell the full tale.
Good win, we haven't won there since 2001?.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 11:13 am

Who here said their 2nd was a 35 yarder lol. Their player was 5 metres inside his own half
Some slick movements there from Argyle for sure
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 12:01 pm

Just looked at the highlights. Looks like both defences were very poor (do Southend CB's not understand the offside law?) As for conceding a goal from the other team's own half, you'd see better defending at Staddiscombe PF, the lad that scored isn't exactly Beckham or Rooney
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 12:25 pm

Greenskin wrote:
Angry wrote:
looking at the stats of the game im struggling to understand del bhey bigging up our performance as if we totally out played southend. We won which the most important thing at the end of the day but just for once can he stop bullshitting.

Sounds as if Innocent must have been bullshitting as well then.

if the stats are anything to go by then yes he has been hyping it. Which of course he is entitled too do so if he so wishes but it came across as a midfield battle and southends lack of talent going forward.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 12:28 pm

That was a close call then. Cracking second goal for Southend.



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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 12:36 pm

Hopefully, Adams isn't thick-headed enough to think let's go forward with this motley bunch,
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 2:12 pm

Elias wrote:
Stats don't always tell the full tale.
Good win, we haven't won there since 2001?.


Southend...0-2...Argyle...19th March 2013.

Since 2001 away.......W2...D3...L2......That's not bad away from home.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 2:41 pm

I've always said that we would stay up.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 2:55 pm

zyph wrote:
Elias wrote:
Stats don't always tell the full tale.
Good win, we haven't won there since 2001?.


Southend...0-2...Argyle...19th March 2013.

Since 2001 away.......W2...D3...L2......That's not bad away from home.

Forgot that one Embarassed

Prior to 2001 think we lost 4, seem to recall a dismal 3 nil hammering in the Jones era on s Tuesday night.
Abysmal affair.

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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 3:28 pm

Elias wrote:
zyph wrote:
Elias wrote:
Stats don't always tell the full tale.
Good win, we haven't won there since 2001?.


Southend...0-2...Argyle...19th March 2013.

Since 2001 away.......W2...D3...L2......That's not bad away from home.

Forgot that one Embarassed

Prior to 2001 think we lost 4, seem to recall a dismal 3 nil hammering in the Jones era on s Tuesday night.
Abysmal affair.



Tues 24th Feb 1998.....Southend...3-0...Argyle,.... Relegated....Jones was sacked 4 months later and replaced with Kevin Hodges.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 4:42 pm

Angry wrote:
Greenskin wrote:
Angry wrote:
looking at the stats of the game im struggling to understand del bhey bigging up our performance as if we totally out played southend. We won which the most important thing at the end of the day but just for once can he stop bullshitting.

Sounds as if Innocent must have been bullshitting as well then.

if the stats are anything to go by then yes he has been hyping it. Which of course he is entitled too do so if he so wishes but it came across as a midfield battle and southends lack of talent going forward.

It doesn't compare to watching it yourself, but speaking to people whose opinion you trust that were there, will always trump any stat analysis.

A few mates were up there and they all said the performance was up there with the best so far this season.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 4:47 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
Angry wrote:
Greenskin wrote:
Angry wrote:
looking at the stats of the game im struggling to understand del bhey bigging up our performance as if we totally out played southend. We won which the most important thing at the end of the day but just for once can he stop bullshitting.

Sounds as if Innocent must have been bullshitting as well then.

if the stats are anything to go by then yes he has been hyping it. Which of course he is entitled too do so if he so wishes but it came across as a midfield battle and southends lack of talent going forward.

It doesn't compare to watching it yourself, but speaking to people whose opinion you trust that were there, will always trump any stat analysis.

A few mates were up there and they all said the performance was up there with the best so far this season.

i go to games aswell season ticket holder for many years so i do know how we play the vast majority of the time when some on here are claiming we where fantastic when we were average at best and the stats would be a fair reflection on how we actually did to how a fan wwith bias ees nd high on emotion rates us in this game having listen along aswell.

we won which is the main thing and thats the important fact but lets be honest we would still have been hammered againt a team with better attacking options.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 4:54 pm

Angry wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
Angry wrote:
Greenskin wrote:
Angry wrote:
looking at the stats of the game im struggling to understand del bhey bigging up our performance as if we totally out played southend. We won which the most important thing at the end of the day but just for once can he stop bullshitting.

Sounds as if Innocent must have been bullshitting as well then.

if the stats are anything to go by then yes he has been hyping it. Which of course he is entitled too do so if he so wishes but it came across as a midfield battle and southends lack of talent going forward.

It doesn't compare to watching it yourself, but speaking to people whose opinion you trust that were there, will always trump any stat analysis.

A few mates were up there and they all said the performance was up there with the best so far this season.

i go to games aswell season ticket holder for many years so i do know how we play the vast majority of the time when some on here are claiming we where fantastic when we were average at best and the stats would be a fair reflection on how we actually did to how a fan wwith bias ees nd high on emotion rates us in this game having listen along aswell.

we won which is the main thing and thats the important fact but lets be honest we would still have been hammered againt a team with better attacking options.

Well yeah, there are quite a few on here that would bemoan a 7-0 win because it should have been 8. The point I'm making is I trust the judgement and knowledge of the mates I know and who went to the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 13, 2019 5:48 pm

Graiser wrote:
Innocent Egbunike wrote:
To anyone being negative....I understand, but that was a really good attacking performance. At times, in the 2nd half, we were unplayable. Make no mistake, Argyle deserved this win. We showed grit, determination and no little skill in going 3-0 up. The team are completely together.

2-3 flatters Southend. Questionable penalty (from the far end view) and a speculative punt, where Letheren was possibly a bit sleepy. We were fun to watch and Lameiras was off the scale, enjoying himself and making the Southend defenders look bang average.

Lots to be positive about. The whole team did well but big props for Sarcevic, Ladapo, Lameiras and Carey. Smith-Brown too. Southend were awful but we didn’t look like a team going down...and that following Wimbledon on Boxing Day when I fancied we were doomed.

Lameiras firing takes the pressure off Carey, meaning League One defences have two really talented forwards to manage at once. Think it might well be as simple as that.




IE Thanks for that breakdown of the match, good to know how we really played, we’re always ready to have a pop at Argyle when we play crap and generally, as has been the case this season, lose, but it should work the other way as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Southend 15:00 Plymouth   Southend 15:00 Plymouth - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 am

Czarcasm wrote:
Angry wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
Angry wrote:
Greenskin wrote:
Angry wrote:
looking at the stats of the game im struggling to understand del bhey bigging up our performance as if we totally out played southend. We won which the most important thing at the end of the day but just for once can he stop bullshitting.

Sounds as if Innocent must have been bullshitting as well then.

if the stats are anything to go by then yes he has been hyping it. Which of course he is entitled too do so if he so wishes but it came across as a midfield battle and southends lack of talent going forward.

It doesn't compare to watching it yourself, but speaking to people whose opinion you trust that were there, will always trump any stat analysis.

A few mates were up there and they all said the performance was up there with the best so far this season.

i go to games aswell season ticket holder for many years so i do know how we play the vast majority of the time when some on here are claiming we where fantastic when we were average at best and the stats would be a fair reflection on how we actually did to how a fan wwith bias ees nd high on emotion rates us in this game having listen along aswell.

we won which is the main thing and thats the important fact but lets be honest we would still have been hammered againt a team with better attacking options.

Well yeah, there are quite a few on here that would bemoan a 7-0 win because it should have been 8. The point I'm making is I trust the judgement and knowledge of the mates I know and who went to the game.  

Yeah, ditto. From what I've heard from a Southend mate, we were comfortably the better side over 90mins, and then made it difficult for ourselves with two late errors.
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