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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:44 am | |
| Quote from Brent rag
DA “It can be used in different ways throughout the football club. It doesn’t just have to be spent on players.
“There are a lot of improvements needed throughout the football club and that money can go well to doing that.”
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:53 am | |
| Im sure the sheep will be on the herald to back this ridiculous statement from Del bhey ffs. Why isnt brent in investing in the club? where is the money from transfers going if not back into the team cause i dont think thoise cranes moving the shite shaqs cost over £100,000 to hire. That electronic board that will be outside the devonport endis going up soon. |
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Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:09 pm | |
| Argyle twitter very quiet today, mind you they were quiet last night |
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RegGreen
Posts : 6018 Join date : 2015-07-08
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:33 pm | |
| What his politely saying is brents give him F@ [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] all thats what iam reading between lines |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:41 pm | |
| He's excusing Brent. I'm afraid there's a few on here that need to re-evaluate their opinion of Adams if they are indeed as anti Brent as they purport to be. He appears to back up anything Brent wants from pinching massive sums of money from playing budgets to 12 montth player contracts, while he of course gets a 4 year contract. He's acting like a squire's estate manager, and it's not attractive.
It's a football manager's job to prise money away from the modern day property profiteers who often own clubs, and Adams is a far cry from Holloway, and not just in preferred playing philosophy, who made it perfectly clear he wasn't going to put up with the greedy property over playing routine. Adams clearly isn't prepared to do that. Brent out Adams out.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:44 pm | |
| Meaning of quote = James has spent an enormous amount of his own money supporting the club he loves and this extra bit will help in moving the club forward by providing a world class stand. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:49 pm | |
| I am of the opinion that although Del does the job on the pitch he is a yes man off it and is just happy to have a job.
Can you imagine Sturrock being happy to sell Stonebridge and told he wont be allowed to bring in a replacement? |
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sufferedsince 68
Posts : 6420 Join date : 2014-06-01 Location : Brentocabin
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:26 pm | |
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Jethro
Posts : 8363 Join date : 2013-01-03 Age : 34 Location : Dorset
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:14 pm | |
| - beesrus wrote:
- He's excusing Brent. I'm afraid there's a few on here that need to re-evaluate their opinion of Adams if they are indeed as anti Brent as they purport to be. He appears to back up anything Brent wants from pinching massive sums of money from playing budgets to 12 montth player contracts, while he of course gets a 4 year contract. He's acting like a squire's estate manager, and it's not attractive.
It's a football manager's job to prise money away from the modern day property profiteers who often own clubs, and Adams is a far cry from Holloway, and not just in preferred playing philosophy, who made it perfectly clear he wasn't going to put up with the greedy property over playing routine. Adams clearly isn't prepared to do that. Brent out Adams out. why walk away from a decent pay out if brent sacks him, Hollowords took the money from Leicester he could have spoke out before the shit hit the fan financially the guy is a grade a cnut hes is as bad as brent,todd and the like. |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:34 pm | |
| I have come to the conclusion that although Derek is a fairly decent manager ,he is also a yes man, can't really see the scenario where he tells Brent to stick the managers job up his arse - unfortunately. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:41 pm | |
| - akagreengull wrote:
- I have come to the conclusion that although Derek is a fairly decent manager ,he is also a yes man, can't
really see the scenario where he tells Brent to stick the managers job up his arse - unfortunately. Bit dumb too as Ross County Had to get his own father to spell it out to him that he was fired when he wouldnt take the p45 as a hint. |
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Greenskin
Posts : 6241 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:18 am | |
| - akagreengull wrote:
- I have come to the conclusion that although Derek is a fairly decent manager ,he is also a yes man, can't
really see the scenario where he tells Brent to stick the managers job up his arse - unfortunately. Sheridan didn't tell him to stick it either though and one description that I don't think could be applied to him was yes man. Managers have to be very careful in their relations with directors and what they say in public is not necessarily what they think in private-I do believe that some managers have clauses written into their contracts on the matter.When was the last time that any manager was seriously and openly critical in the press about his relationship with any given board of directors and their policies? You get rumblings and hints, as with Conte at Chelsea, but not much else-not many explosive outbursts a la Clough or Docherty. And for someone to put forward Holloway as an example of a principled man who leaves or will not take jobs and speaks up loudly about the policy or integrity of his employees, the fact that he worked for the Oystons at Blackpool would seem to contradict that theory. |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:28 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Sounds like even the faithful are questioning Brents motives. |
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Greenskin
Posts : 6241 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:59 am | |
| - akagreengull wrote:
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Sounds like even the faithful are questioning Brents motives. Respect for Errington suddenly zooms up, didnt think he had it in him. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:04 am | |
| - Greenskin wrote:
- akagreengull wrote:
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Sounds like even the faithful are questioning Brents motives. Respect for Errington suddenly zooms up, didnt think he had it in him. I don't think he has. His little outburst is nothing more than that. A few terse soundbites to give the impression he's a bit of a journalistic tiger. Grrrrr. He'll be back to cowering under Brent's desk next week. |
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Innocent Egbunike
Posts : 426 Join date : 2016-09-01
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:21 am | |
| - beesrus wrote:
It's a football manager's job to prise money away from the modern day property profiteers who often own clubs, and Adams is a far cry from Holloway, and not just in preferred playing philosophy, who made it perfectly clear he wasn't going to put up with the greedy property over playing routine. Adams clearly isn't prepared to do that. Brent out Adams out. It’s not though, is it? It’s a football manager’s job to win football matches - which Adams is largely doing. He might well be towing the line set by Brent et al but he is also quietly building his own stock and proving he can win with more limited resources than other managers. I liked Ian Holloway and the Holloway period but he can hardly be held up as a man of the people, fighting the corporate machine - he was very quick to walk when Mandaric offered to make him a millionaire! |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:55 pm | |
| - Greenskin wrote:
- akagreengull wrote:
- I have come to the conclusion that although Derek is a fairly decent manager ,he is also a yes man, can't
really see the scenario where he tells Brent to stick the managers job up his arse - unfortunately. Sheridan didn't tell him to stick it either Are you joking ? Of course he told him to stick it. How much clearer do you have to be than pereferring to be on the dole than take up further work under Brent. Actions speak words. And Holloway made it perfectly clear he was not happy with Stapletong doing a property deal rather than funding what was actually almost the biggest promotion push to the top flight in the club's history. He was very public in his condemnation. As for Adams quietly building his own stock, yes, that's exactly what he's doing and no fan should be happy with that. That's why he keeps saying money is tight and Brent has clocked this charater trait in Adams and plays along with it saying the manager likes to overperform small budgets. It's a classic situation where all individuals concerned are looking after their own interests over those of the club, and yet they both say they want to build a "club". It's a joke. It's not true. Most professionals when head hunted and offered vastly improved opportunites, will take them. Nothing wrong with that, but in the meantime, the best professionals put their heart and soul into where they are at the time and their "cause", which is probably why they're head hunted in the first place, and people like Adams and Sheridan remain journeymen following their dumb empolyer's bidding. Leaving aside the subsequent Oyston corruption and fraud, people should revisit the public coercing Holloway did to get funding from the reticent Blackpool owners in their promotion push. Little did he know the financial crap to come once he got them up. Pulis is another successful manager at the top level who took no crap from Stapleton when he arrived. He couldn't believe how amateur Argyle were and made very public his opinion that the board needed to get real. And guess what, Pulis was seen a doer, not some gorm just toeing the line and drawing a wage, and so was head hunted too. It's the manager's job to kick out the lethargy in boardrooms and tell them what football success is all about. Brian Clough made many unfavourable comments about football club owners. He certainly didn't take any nonsense from Leeds, and look what they missed out on. Best foot forward or get lost. It's only a game and life is too short to watch paint dry and bellies filled. |
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Grovehill
Posts : 2290 Join date : 2012-01-24
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:47 pm | |
| the fact that JJ signed for Luton on deadline day is irrelevant. Walsall had be after him before and it was only a question of when the buyout price would have met, although isn't it likely that had the buyout not been met Argyle would have done the deal for, say £100k.
The point being that with JJ's departure being on the cards, any reasonable Club would have earmarked a replacement who could come in to replace JJ.
the whole episode reminds me of when Ebanks Blake left for Wolves-the same excuses about the buyout clause, we can rebuild in the summer etc.
Brent has just confirmed that, under him PAFC are a selling club with no ambition |
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Jethro
Posts : 8363 Join date : 2013-01-03 Age : 34 Location : Dorset
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:52 pm | |
| - Greenskin wrote:
- akagreengull wrote:
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Sounds like even the faithful are questioning Brents motives. Respect for Errington suddenly zooms up, didnt think he had it in him. Bloody hell is he feeling alright ? |
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Jethro
Posts : 8363 Join date : 2013-01-03 Age : 34 Location : Dorset
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:54 pm | |
| - Innocent Egbunike wrote:
- beesrus wrote:
It's a football manager's job to prise money away from the modern day property profiteers who often own clubs, and Adams is a far cry from Holloway, and not just in preferred playing philosophy, who made it perfectly clear he wasn't going to put up with the greedy property over playing routine. Adams clearly isn't prepared to do that. Brent out Adams out. It’s not though, is it? It’s a football manager’s job to win football matches - which Adams is largely doing. He might well be towing the line set by Brent et al but he is also quietly building his own stock and proving he can win with more limited resources than other managers.
I liked Ian Holloway and the Holloway period but he can hardly be held up as a man of the people, fighting the corporate machine - he was very quick to walk when Mandaric offered to make him a millionaire! Which is why he is a cnut |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:24 pm | |
| - Jethro wrote:
- Greenskin wrote:
- akagreengull wrote:
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Sounds like even the faithful are questioning Brents motives. Respect for Errington suddenly zooms up, didnt think he had it in him. Bloody hell is he feeling alright ? "Argyle, for example, have the fifth highest average attendance in League One this season, behind only Bradford City, Portsmouth, Blackburn Rovers and Charlton Athletic. So supporters wonder why Argyle seem so restricted in what they spend on recruiting new players." In Erroringtons own words no less, good to see it's not just the freaks and weirdos asking the question. Where's the feckin money going Brent? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:39 pm | |
| Yes, but embeded in Errington's words is the inevitable plausible excuse for the establishment.... Argyle were caught hopping by a very late upped bid. that's patent nonsense as it's quite clear from Jervis' comments that he had hoped to move earlier in the Summer. The club would have known he was eager to move, and Adams' comments suggest he knew other players were contemplating moving "for more money" after the departure of Diagouraga. So, in the end it's still excusing Brent, and his 12 month insulting one-way contract routine, and below par wages that are clearly not fit for purpose in this league. A bit strange for a club of Argle's size, who actually own their own stadium, and try to imply they are debt free when it suits their purpose. Oh, and one more thing. In these times of expanding social media, Errington and the herald are but one voice in the community, one poster, one fan, just like all of us. And so I treat his views as such, because that is all they are, just like my views. |
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sufferedsince 68
Posts : 6420 Join date : 2014-06-01 Location : Brentocabin
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:49 pm | |
| - Grovehill wrote:
- the fact that JJ signed for Luton on deadline day is irrelevant. Walsall had be after him before and it was only a question of when the buyout price would have met, although isn't it likely that had the buyout not been met Argyle would have done the deal for, say £100k.
The point being that with JJ's departure being on the cards, any reasonable Club would have earmarked a replacement who could come in to replace JJ.
the whole episode reminds me of when Ebanks Blake left for Wolves-the same excuses about the buyout clause, we can rebuild in the summer etc.
Brent has just confirmed that, under him PAFC are a selling club with no ambition Under Akkeron Man, little Akkeron Argo cant compete with Fleetwood Luton and Walsall to name but a few, Brent has failed the ten thousand fans who pay top money to watch fourth division standard players, if argo dont go down this season it will be next. |
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Elias
Posts : 6006 Join date : 2011-12-05 Location : brent out
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:53 pm | |
| - Greenskin wrote:
- akagreengull wrote:
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Sounds like even the faithful are questioning Brents motives. Respect for Errington suddenly zooms up, didnt think he had it in him. Hardly burning effigies |
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Elias
Posts : 6006 Join date : 2011-12-05 Location : brent out
| Subject: Re: Money not for players Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 pm | |
| - Jethro wrote:
- Innocent Egbunike wrote:
- beesrus wrote:
It's a football manager's job to prise money away from the modern day property profiteers who often own clubs, and Adams is a far cry from Holloway, and not just in preferred playing philosophy, who made it perfectly clear he wasn't going to put up with the greedy property over playing routine. Adams clearly isn't prepared to do that. Brent out Adams out. It’s not though, is it? It’s a football manager’s job to win football matches - which Adams is largely doing. He might well be towing the line set by Brent et al but he is also quietly building his own stock and proving he can win with more limited resources than other managers.
I liked Ian Holloway and the Holloway period but he can hardly be held up as a man of the people, fighting the corporate machine - he was very quick to walk when Mandaric offered to make him a millionaire! Which is why he is a cnut If someone wanted to make you a millionaire you'd be persuaded to move. |
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