Alex Fletcher to Torquay

On a Months loan with option to extended.

Good move for him he needs competitive games to aide his development. However i Hope this isnt the start of yet another highly rated youngster on the slide and on the way out in the summer or next year.

As you say a good move for him and a chance for him to get regular football at a decent level. If he's a success we keep him, if not then he moves on.

Coxside_Green wrote:

As you say a good move for him and a chance for him to get regular football at a decent level.  If he's a success we keep him, if not then he moves on.

but does it not ring alarm bells within our youth academy that something is going very wrong when a few in recent years are coming up highly rated make a few cameo appearances make a splash then fade away get loaned out then gone. Something is going wrong here and it needs addressing.

Looking at where Harvey and Rooney are now I'd say successive managers have called it right. They might've been the best of the crop we've produced but not up to the standard we've required. It doesn't help when our 1st team has been short and we've been unable to loan our youngsters out because they're needed to sit on our bench. Maybe Fletch will get more loan time, if so the ball is in his court to make the most of it.

Coxside_Green wrote:

Looking at where Harvey and Rooney are now I'd say successive managers have called it right.  They might've been the best of the crop we've produced but not up to the standard we've required.   It doesn't help when our 1st team has been short and we've been unable to loan our youngsters out because they're needed to sit on our bench.  Maybe Fletch will get more loan time, if so the ball is in his court to make the most of it.

which is why i say something is going wrong and the reluctant one needs to investigate. Tony Pulis managed to bring about change perhaps its time for del bhey to publicly out the regime.

This must hint that we have a striker on the way, surely?

Hardly over-subscribed for forwards are we?

Angry wrote:

Coxside_Green wrote:

Looking at where Harvey and Rooney are now I'd say successive managers have called it right.  They might've been the best of the crop we've produced but not up to the standard we've required.   It doesn't help when our 1st team has been short and we've been unable to loan our youngsters out because they're needed to sit on our bench.  Maybe Fletch will get more loan time, if so the ball is in his court to make the most of it.

which is why i say something is going wrong and the reluctant one needs to investigate. Tony Pulis managed to bring about change perhaps its time for del bhey to publicly out the regime.

That was back when we had a 2nd tier income with Stapleton hoping to get his hands on some more property. The only way the current owners will invest into the youth is if they squeeze the already tight 1st team budget. A case of be careful what you wish for right now?

Well, apparently the American investment manager turned born again football fanatic late in life wants to invest in youth for some reason, and by all accounts the club want to "lease" (put out of bounds) another 3 fields in the park. Now, one could read that desire as the first steps in an expanded youth policy/academy, or yet another football cover story to prepare for another land grab in the park by the heavenly twins in the medium term. My nose tells me the later with much noise and trumpet of a new "academy".

not much of a park, nothing to do, nothing to buy, just a few dog walkers, not even a Nandos.......

Not even any USB charging points, Pat. Bleddy sodden wilderness that needs to be put to good use.

beesrus wrote:

Well, apparently the American investment manager turned born again football fanatic late in life wants to invest in youth for some reason, and by all accounts the club want to "lease" (put out of bounds) another 3 fields in the park. Now, one could read that desire as the first steps in an expanded youth policy/academy, or yet another football cover story to prepare for another land grab in the park by the heavenly twins in the medium term. My nose tells me the later with much noise and trumpet of a new "academy".

out of those 2 choices bees i know which one i believe

Angry wrote:

Coxside_Green wrote:

Looking at where Harvey and Rooney are now I'd say successive managers have called it right.  They might've been the best of the crop we've produced but not up to the standard we've required.   It doesn't help when our 1st team has been short and we've been unable to loan our youngsters out because they're needed to sit on our bench.  Maybe Fletch will get more loan time, if so the ball is in his court to make the most of it.

which is why i say something is going wrong and the reluctant one needs to investigate. Tony Pulis managed to bring about change perhaps its time for del bhey to publicly out the regime.

Distinctly remember Pulis slagging off the youth team manager [Gibson?] in the match programme, which I thought was wrong in principle but probably right in terms of commenting on non-productivity. It may have been Pulis or Holloway who brought in Mike Pejic as youth coach and that certainly seemed to work for a while, some decent players like Sawyer, Reid, Mason, Stephens etc emerged over a period of time. Not sure if the current youth team results are anything to go by, possibly not going by past experience, hopefully some players will be produced which will be of obvious benefit in several different ways.

Anyway, good luck to Alex Fletcher, seems to have something about him and this should provide a decent opportunity for him to prove himself.

What do you expect no investment whatsoever in the academy from brent if there is its very minamal ..i have that on good grounds its left to bucket rattling and generous parents whos kids are in the acadmey who have been stumping up for them..shocking really as a most custonians/owners/chairman back all there teams from the 1st team all the way down to the under 10s teams shocking how its run like a charity when its a privite run company

why invest ones own money when grateful Janners will pay it for you? Brents laughing at them....

Aint that the truth pat..pissing himself laughing once he found out how gullible they really are

beesrus wrote:

Well, apparently the American investment manager turned born again football fanatic late in life wants to invest in youth for some reason, and by all accounts the club want to "lease" (put out of bounds) another 3 fields in the park. Now, one could read that desire as the first steps in an expanded youth policy/academy, or yet another football cover story to prepare for another land grab in the park by the heavenly twins in the medium term. My nose tells me the later with much noise and trumpet of a new "academy".

They corporation (hallet and brent) wont stop till every inch of central park is built on

nailed on to become a Privately Owned Public Place, goodbye Central Park......

I hope it goes well for young Fletch, but it may be an uncomfortable environment to come into with Torquay at the bottom, 10 points adrift of safety.

Are they going to steal it from the landowner then ?

Soon be Christmas.

Graiser wrote:

Are they going to steal it from the landowner then ?

No, it will be given to them eventually under some weird wording.
Corruption has many facets and disguises.
I believe the council's euphemism in this case up at the park is zero cost budgeting.
They've even offered to "give" us our allotments there. We've refused.

Sutton Harbour didn't "steal" the airport, just obtained a very long lease, and look what their game has been ever since.

Good move for Alex, he definitely has some ability and the Gulls need all the help they can get at the moment, from what I hear from some of my Gulls friends it is pretty negative up at Plainmorg at the moment.
So Alex may find himself in a downcast dressing room, still as they say it should be character building, I'm sure Adams, Brewster and Wotton will keep a close eye on him. Now Alex is up there will definitely get up the road very soon  to cheer on the Gulls.
A Gulls mate tells me it's £15 for the Popside at the moment and that Luke Young is by far and away Torquay's best player.
Looking pretty grim at the moment for the Gulls , there is only so many times a team can avoid the trapdoor, personally don't think they will this time after winning their last three games of the season last campaign under Kevin Nicholson to avoid the drop.
Come on You Gulls.

akagreengull wrote:

Good move for Alex, he definitely has some ability and the Gulls need all the help they can get at the moment, from what I hear from some of my Gulls friends it is pretty negative up at Plainmorg at the moment.
So Alex may find himself in a downcast dressing room, still as they say it should be character building, I'm sure Adams, Brewster and Wotton will keep a close eye on him. Now Alex is up there will definitely get up the road very soon  to cheer on the Gulls.
A Gulls mate tells me it's £15 for the Popside at the moment and that Luke Young is by far and away Torquay's best player.
Looking pretty grim at the moment for the Gulls , there is only so many times a team can avoid the trapdoor, personally don't think they will this time after winning their last three games of the season last campaign under Kevin Nicholson to avoid the drop.
Come on You Gulls.

Lets lend Turkey United Sangster too. I would rather they played in a competitive league like the vanarama premiership then playing the likes of Buckland who's standard of players with all due respect are no where near as good as what we want our YTS stars to eventually play at.

Angry wrote:

akagreengull wrote:

Good move for Alex, he definitely has some ability and the Gulls need all the help they can get at the moment, from what I hear from some of my Gulls friends it is pretty negative up at Plainmorg at the moment.
So Alex may find himself in a downcast dressing room, still as they say it should be character building, I'm sure Adams, Brewster and Wotton will keep a close eye on him. Now Alex is up there will definitely get up the road very soon  to cheer on the Gulls.
A Gulls mate tells me it's £15 for the Popside at the moment and that Luke Young is by far and away Torquay's best player.
Looking pretty grim at the moment for the Gulls , there is only so many times a team can avoid the trapdoor, personally don't think they will this time after winning their last three games of the season last campaign under Kevin Nicholson to avoid the drop.
Come on You Gulls.

Lets lend Turkey United Sangster too. I would rather they played in a competitive league like the vanarama premiership then playing the likes of Buckland who's standard of players with all due respect are no where near as good as what we want our YTS stars to eventually play at.

Totally agree, Angry, but from a Torquay angle it's a good deal, my main concern is that the lad is going into a very negative situation on and off the pitch , but maybe given he is a Newton boy and it's all very local is an attraction for him.
Yes over the last few seasons Argyle have used the likes of Torquay, Weston S M, Truro, Weymouth as a convenient way of getting the up and comers games, e.g Tyler Harvey to Truro.
Take your point all a bit easy and convenient, but then the Akkeron Argyle set up is pervaded by a a distinct lack of ambition and blinkered thinking as we all know.

Greenskin wrote:

Angry wrote:

Coxside_Green wrote:

Looking at where Harvey and Rooney are now I'd say successive managers have called it right.  They might've been the best of the crop we've produced but not up to the standard we've required.   It doesn't help when our 1st team has been short and we've been unable to loan our youngsters out because they're needed to sit on our bench.  Maybe Fletch will get more loan time, if so the ball is in his court to make the most of it.

which is why i say something is going wrong and the reluctant one needs to investigate. Tony Pulis managed to bring about change perhaps its time for del bhey to publicly out the regime.

Distinctly remember Pulis slagging off the youth team manager [Gibson?] in the match programme, which I thought was wrong in principle but probably right in terms of commenting on non-productivity. It may have been Pulis or Holloway who brought in Mike Pejic as youth coach and that certainly seemed to work for a while, some decent players like Sawyer, Reid, Mason, Stephens etc emerged over a period of time. Not sure if the current youth team results are anything to go by, possibly not going by past experience, hopefully some players will be produced which will be of obvious benefit in several different ways.

Anyway, good luck to Alex Fletcher, seems to have something about him and this should provide a decent opportunity for him to prove himself.

Sawyer, Reid, McCormick and Gosling all came through under Gibson. Pulis has gone on record saying he would rather pay a million pound for a player than invest a similar figure in a youth academy