The future of car parking at Home Park

UP-Date on motorcycle parking

From a Darren Stoneman

The car park is licenced for use by pafc on match day but not sole use, the car park is available for anyone to use, whether they are going to the park, Lifecentre etc. I did advise a few months ago that I was looking at motorcycle parking and have agreed today that for a trial period motorcycle parking will be provided on the hatch areas next to the old hut in the top car park, this is only on match day and will be signed accordingly. We will review in terms of use and safety to inform a permanent decision later in the season. I hope that this will help all supporters in some way. I will engage with the supporters trust and padsa to discuss any findings in 2018

Tgwu wrote:

IS THIS BRENTS ANSWER FOR PARKING TROUBLE BECAUSE OF HIS DEVELOPMENTS

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the sleazy fecker will try anything to better his hand,

Although the cost has gone up from £1 return to £2.50 the evening service is an improvement if it actually offers a return, the old service used to stop at 9pm.
As for the OP then yes this probably is Brent's solution to selling the car park and one that would probably get accepted by the planners, whether they can be led to believe that 200 office workers and 800 corporate customers will use it too will be the big question.

Have you seen the condition of Target travels rolling stock? Appalling, should have their license revoked.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Although the cost has gone up from £1 return to £2.50 the evening service is an improvement if it actually offers a return, the old service used to stop at 9pm.
As for the OP then yes this probably is Brent's solution to selling the car park and one that would probably get accepted by the planners, whether they can be led to believe that 200 office workers and 800 corporate customers will use it too will be the big question.

This bus is only for match days,

Tgwu wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Although the cost has gone up from £1 return to £2.50 the evening service is an improvement if it actually offers a return, the old service used to stop at 9pm.
As for the OP then yes this probably is Brent's solution to selling the car park and one that would probably get accepted by the planners, whether they can be led to believe that 200 office workers and 800 corporate customers will use it too will be the big question.

This bus is only for match days,

But match days are all that matters, apparently. Brent doesn't live in Plymouth, Jones doesn't live in Plymouth (as far as I'm aware), Newell's retired and Webb doesn't live in Plymouth. So none of them could give a flying one about the people of Plymouth who need to get to work, hospital, study etc. every day.

I can see it now:

Brent: "That's a big bit of empty land. Hmm - what does that mean, park and ride?"

The kind of people Brent talks to: "Oh, nothing, m'lud. It's just a bit of land the plebs use sometimes. I'm sure they won't mind if you take it over. You could make out you're doing council tax payers a favour by taking it off their hands"

Brent: "You mean I'd have to [gasps] pay for it?"

The kind of people Brent talks to: "Oh, no, m'lud, no, not at all. Just submit some plans without enough parking spaces but assume you can use the park and ride as overflow. I'm sure everything will be ok. Your highness."

[The kind of people Brent talks to exit the room walking backwards and bowing.]

Oh that's good Peggy

Thanks, Cornish.

I see another statutory consultee (Public Protection, AKA PCC Environmental Health) have submitted their response today. Amongst their concerns (which also include air quality and potential noise from energy plant, something an ice rink in particular will use to the max) they've highlighted the lack of provision for taxis and private hire vehicles / minicabs - there's no cab rank and no pick up /drop off area for minicabs. The response specifically states that this should be made a planning condition "to allow vulnerable and disabled visitors suitable access to the facilities (stadium, hotel, ice rink, veterinary practice)".

Anybody would think that nobody thought anything through when they put the application together. Or at the very least that nobody remembered that there are such things as vulnerable and disabled people

who wants all these private hire vehicles / minicabs driving in the pedestrian zones, They are there so parents and children can walk safely to the life centre car park. I notice that minicabs are coming in through the no entry way now.

Lets remember we're all vulnerable when a car hits us, disabled, young, old or thriving. We're all pedestrians when we're a pieds, and we all get distracted. We all know the new accepted car/pedestrian routine with no kerbs etc in the city centre that clearly must have passed planning. It's a relatively new philosophy and seems to work, with vehicles knowingly deferring to pedestrians in all cases, rather than scooting down a "road" with little regard to anything but themselves.
I just have a feeling that these things are sadly small potatoes, probably thrown in to give a couple of minor victories to the enemy, but easily sorted by Brent if he has half a brain.

It's using HHP as the site for an office block that is the real outrage, not how cars and pedestrians co-exist.

Given the fake history that Brent and his fellow inferabuck cronies have recently been spreading about the history of the park and it's intended use, nibbling away at usage is the real problem with these plans, and that's before we even get to the council depot and cricket pitch, and Brent wanting to put up private property notices on yet another 3 fields in the park.

Yes, it's the office block that's the problem - in all sorts of ways - but the parking and traffic issues could well be what brings it tumbling down.

(See what I did there?)

More news on Manadon roundabout because of The Range

The multi-million-pound scheme - to be rolled out over 3.69 hectares east of Tavistock Road next to Future Inns - is set to create 500 jobs.

Four-hundred staff would be recruited for the headquarters, with the remainder being spread out across the new shop.

A superstore, office space, cafe and 350-space car park are all proposed in the mega deal - which planning bosses hope will kick-start the 'future delivery' of development around the Seaton Barrack site.

But Highways England is concerned that nearby Manadon Junction is already 'at capacity' - and recommends that a section of the entire development is not complete until the congestion-busting Forder Valley Link Road is created.

Traffic officials say the Range development will lead to 70 extra car journeys in the morning peak and a further 301 in the evening.

Addressing traffic issues in a report to be put before Plymouth City Council's planning committee next Thursday says: "The impact of these on the Manadon Junction it is a busy constrained junction and the percentage increase in flows identified of 10% could be significant additional volume."

Council officers have recommended that the plans are approved, subject to conditions - mainly that Range officials cough up £100,000 for traffic improvements - cash developers pay towards local projects in a deal known as a Section 106 Agreement.