Accrington manager view of the game

Their match report

Stanley were once again made to rue missed chances as league leaders Plymouth grabbed the win at the Wham Stadium.

The Reds found Argyle keeper Luke McCormick in top form and were denied by the woodwork as they just couldn’t grab the vital opener.

And then they were hit by a sucker punch on 76 minutes when sub Craig Tanner saw his shot sneak through Elliot Parish’s legs to send them back to the top of the table

Stanley started well with both Zak Vyner and Jordan Clark playing dangerous balls into the Plymouth box.

John O’Sullivan was lively on the wing as the Reds looked for the all-important opening goal.

However the league leaders were always likely to be a threat and a quick break on 20 minutes saw Graham Carey set up Jordan Slew with Slew’s final shot just wide of the far post.

Coleman’s men were enjoying plenty of possession without testing keeper Luke McCormick but that all changed in the 40th minute.

Then Matty Pearson’s ball in found Rommy Boco whose initial shot was blocked with the ball coming out to Vyner on the edge of the area and his curling shot was well-held by the Argyle stopper.

McCormick came to his side’s rescue again a minute later when he finger-tipped winger Clark’s fierce strike just over the bar.

Coleman would have been happy with his side’s first half show but disappointed they weren’t ahead.

Boco made a number of strong runs at the start of the second half but no one could get on the end of them while a pacy Clark cross was blocked at the near post with Billy Kee waiting to pounce.

On the hour mark, a Clark corner was flicked on by Kee and no one could put it away at the far post while a Seamus Conneely shot looped up off a defender and hit the woodwork.

It was agony for Stanley when two of Plymouth’s subs combined on 76 minutes to score the winner. David Goodwillie fed through Craig Tanner and he fired through the legs of Parish.

Stanley still had chances – O’Sullivan forced McCormick into another good save – and, as the Reds pushed men forward, Plymouth did create a couple of chances on the counter attack.

It looked like Clark had grabbed an equaliser in injury time but his shot rebounded off a defender and could have gone anywhere – but it went into McCormick’s arms.

We were awful until garita came on

Apart from a couple of halfs I've not seen us play well all season (at home).

AstiSpumante wrote:

Apart from a couple of halfs I've not seen us play well all season (at home).

That's about the size of it. Certainly every other team at the sharp end have looked better than us on all-round play.

Completely outclassed and outplayed by bottom of the league, We are clearly by far the worst team in this terrible division. Sick of being shit.

How many did we loose by?  2 ~ 0?

Opposition fans must start matches with a feeling of trepidation that they're playing top of the league. But going into the break they're probably all saying "how are we not 4-0 up against this shit".

Freathy wrote:

Completely outclassed and outplayed by bottom of the league,  We are clearly by far the worst team in this terrible division.  Sick of being shit.

I just listened to the Accy manager who seemed gutted they lost and more or less implied that he could not understand how Argo are top, the happy clappy properfans might think everythings fab, but without more quality another collapse is on the cards.

There have been several managers this season who have bemoaned the fact that they've dominated the game against us, and most of them have one thing in common - they've finished the game with no points. Bit of a pattern developing.

The thing about us being shite, well yes we are, but we're in a shite league full of shite teams, and the idea is to be a bit less shite than most of the others - which currently we seem to be.

As long as that gets us into league one that's fine with me. We can be shite there as well as there are a lot of shite teams in that league.

When you put it like that, I'm glad I continue to avoid Home Park under Brent. It doesn't sound the most edifying way to spend leisure time. Just what do people get out of it ? Maybe it's an education thing or a poor self worth. Or maybe it's just the same old boys day out/home avoiding/old bored geezer vehicle it always was for so many, with the sport itself a secondary consideration.

To be perfectly honest,i don't totally agree that the division is full of shit teams.If you look at the league 1 table this season,then all four of the promoted teams have more than held their own-for sure they will have strengthened in the summer but the nucleus of the teams will be the same,which must say something about the relative standard and would suggest that players who are currently in this division are not necessarily going to stay there. Accrington were very impressive at HP last season and the standard of the football they played in terms of passing and possession was better than a lot of teams who came down here in the championship,which leads to a bit of a question seeing as they lost that game as well-what exactly is the definition of "playing well"? Some would argue that defending properly,with good concentration on the basics and organisation whereby people know exactly what their role is,is easily as important to a successful season as being able to string 15 passes together and have 65% possession.Argyle have indisputably got the former qualities right this season-as did Sturrock's team in 2002, when 1-0 wins while not dominating matches were a common feature in compiling 102 points.Maybe performances, although not always aesthetically pleasing,are actually better than acknowledged in some quarters.

Anyway,happy birthday to me-no mention in the birthday thread-have i been blacklisted for being too Aviva or pro Brexit?

Happy birthday Greenskin mate. Just on my way back home, in Bristol, with another 2 3/4 hours to go until were home. Enjoy the rest of the day fella.

For those managers that are wondering why we're top of the league, it's really quite simple, we've accumulated more points than the rest of them, so what does that say about the rest of them.
It's about time this team and the manager got just a bit of credit instead of all this continuous nonsense

Greenskin wrote:

To be perfectly honest,i don't totally agree that the division is full of shit teams.If you look at the  league 1 table this season,then all four of the promoted teams have more than held their own-for sure they will have strengthened in the summer but the nucleus of the teams will be the same,which must say something about the relative standard and would suggest that players who are currently in this division are not necessarily going to stay there. Accrington were very impressive at HP last season and the standard of the football they played in terms of passing and possession was better than a lot of teams who came down here in the championship,which leads to a bit of a question seeing as they lost that game as well-what exactly is the definition of "playing well"? Some would argue that defending properly,with good concentration on the basics and organisation whereby people know exactly what their role is,is easily as important to a successful season as being able to string 15 passes together and have 65% possession.Argyle have indisputably got the former qualities right this season-as did Sturrock's team in 2002, when 1-0 wins while not dominating matches were a common feature in compiling 102 points.Maybe performances, although not always aesthetically pleasing,are actually better than acknowledged in some quarters.

Anyway,happy birthday to me-no mention in the birthday thread-have i been blacklisted for being too Aviva or pro Brexit?

Stop being such a prima donna, loads of good wishes to you in the birthday thread

Greenskin wrote:

To be perfectly honest,i don't totally agree that the division is full of shit teams.If you look at the  league 1 table this season,then all four of the promoted teams have more than held their own-for sure they will have strengthened in the summer but the nucleus of the teams will be the same,which must say something about the relative standard and would suggest that players who are currently in this division are not necessarily going to stay there. Accrington were very impressive at HP last season and the standard of the football they played in terms of passing and possession was better than a lot of teams who came down here in the championship,which leads to a bit of a question seeing as they lost that game as well-what exactly is the definition of "playing well"? Some would argue that defending properly,with good concentration on the basics and organisation whereby people know exactly what their role is,is easily as important to a successful season as being able to string 15 passes together and have 65% possession.Argyle have indisputably got the former qualities right this season-as did Sturrock's team in 2002, when 1-0 wins while not dominating matches were a common feature in compiling 102 points.Maybe performances, although not always aesthetically pleasing,are actually better than acknowledged in some quarters.

Anyway,happy birthday to me-no mention in the birthday thread-have i been blacklisted for being too Aviva or pro Brexit?

That's not cricket, Happy Birthday Skinners and best wishes

Graiser wrote:

For those managers that are wondering why we're top of the league, it's really quite simple, we've accumulated more points than the rest of them, so what does that say about the rest of them.
It's about time this team and the manager got just a bit of credit instead of all this continuous nonsense

I think you'll find many, if not most of those on here you consider naysayers, have long given Adams and his achievements praise, despite the constrictions imposed by Brent. I certainly do not confuse a young successful football manager like Adams, with an ageing non developing squatting property banker.
Your continuing inappropriate morphing of Adams into Brent reminds me of a passage from the odyssey where the main man escapes from the cyclops by disguising himself under the belly of a sheep. Strange old world.

For me the 'feel' of this season and the trepidation felt during most matches, is a long way removed from Luggy's 102 point season. Back then we may not have steamrollered everyone by 4 or 5, but you were always hugely confident that we could see out a game no problem.

With this team you (or should I say I) feel that it's only a matter of time before a sequence of lose lose lose is just around the corner again.

We have a big advantage over teams like Accy this year who don't have the resourses to stack their squad and can't simply loan in young starlets from the big guns on their doorsteps will nilly, so in that respect we really ought be at the sharp end - which unsurprisingly all of the other bigger teams in this league are.

Getting out of this league by hook or by crook is paramount. But it really isn't pretty viewing.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

There have been several managers this season who have bemoaned the fact that they've dominated the game against us, and most of them have one thing in common  - they've finished the game with no points. Bit of a pattern developing.

The thing about us being shite, well yes we are, but we're in a shite league full of shite teams, and the idea is to be a bit less shite than most of the others - which currently we seem to be.

As long as that gets us into league one that's fine with me. We can be shite there as well as there are a lot of shite teams in that league.

One crap side in League One are Coventry City, who could well get relegated to League Two this season, oh how the mighty have fallen. Sheffield United have been stuck in League One for awhile now too. Charlton Athletic and Oldham Athletic are other sides who once graced the higher reaches of the pyramid. If my memory serves me right, Argyle once looked at Charlton as a role model.

The last time i saw Argyle play the sky blues was in the FA Cup back in the 1990s. Their fans were gobshites to say the least, taking the piss out of lowly Argyle.

Should Argyle get promoted in May '17, holding their own in League One would be ideal for a couple of seasons, after that, who knows.

We all want Argyle to get promoted and once again, the side find themselves in a good position. If they screw up for a second season running, how long before the masses get frustrated with it all and turn their backs on the club.

Brent says Championship football is the goal, but when is that exactly going to happen ?. five years time, ten years time.

Dear James, will say anything to keep the dim witted, eternally grateful, non questioning faithful on his side.
Championship football my arse, not under a reluctant owner.

beesrus wrote:

Graiser wrote:

For those managers that are wondering why we're top of the league, it's really quite simple, we've accumulated more points than the rest of them, so what does that say about the rest of them.
It's about time this team and the manager got just a bit of credit instead of all this continuous nonsense

I think you'll find many, if not most of those on here you consider naysayers, have long given Adams and his achievements praise, despite the constrictions imposed by Brent. I certainly do not confuse a young successful football manager like Adams, with an ageing non developing squatting property banker.
Your continuing inappropriate morphing of Adams into Brent reminds me of a passage from the odyssey where the main man escapes from the cyclops by disguising himself under the belly of a sheep. Strange old world.

It certainly is, as i'm not referring to, nor did I mention Brent, you did that all on your own

To continue the pedantry, where did I say you said that ?
I inferred you  often infer such a thing, hence continuous morphing.
It's how the debate, such as it is, has descended over the years. If this season ends successfully, I imagine you will be patting the banker on the back, as well as Adams, for how the football went, despite the much commented "underfunding".

beesrus wrote:

To continue the pedantry, where did I say you said that ?
I inferred you  often infer such a thing, hence continuous morphing.
It's how the debate, such as it is, has descended over the years. If this season ends successfully, I imagine you will be patting the banker on the back, as well as Adams, for how the football went, despite the much commented "underfunding".

I'll tell you what I'll be thinking if we achieve promotion, not the other way round.

If we do achieve it, it'll be back slaps all round for Adams, his coaches and players, as it should be. I've never known a chairman yet be responsible for how the team plays, so why you keep banging on about Brent, I don't know, unless of course your a closet admirer.

beesrus wrote:

To continue the pedantry, where did I say you said that ?
I inferred you  often infer such a thing, hence continuous morphing.
It's how the debate, such as it is, has descended over the years. If this season ends successfully, I imagine you will be patting the banker on the back, as well as Adams, for how the football went, despite the much commented "underfunding".

I imagine you and your mates will be in amongst the fans at the civic parade making a protest by wearing your ''Brent out'' badge underneath the lapel on your coat. That'll show 'em a real protest.

tigertony wrote:

beesrus wrote:

To continue the pedantry, where did I say you said that ?
I inferred you  often infer such a thing, hence continuous morphing.
It's how the debate, such as it is, has descended over the years. If this season ends successfully, I imagine you will be patting the banker on the back, as well as Adams, for how the football went, despite the much commented "underfunding".

I imagine you and your mates will be in amongst the fans at the civic parade making a protest by wearing your ''Brent out'' badge underneath the lapel on your coat. That'll show 'em a real protest.

They'll be too  hitching a ride on the TT " hilarious BANTZ BUS!!!", cor 'av you seen what Crapstone Lil is wearing?

TWAT